Just A Note To All

Started by Lord Urizen6 pages

Mother Teresa being catholic does not determine her actions...id like to see proof for what LIL B claims...

In an article for the British medical journal Lancet, in 1994, a physician who visited and inspected her Calcutta facility observed severe misdiagnoses, administration of improper dosages of medications, and a lack of strong analgesics to control terrible pain. Needles were reused without proper sterilization, systematic diagnostic methods were barred and those who could be helped at a real hospital were never sent there.

The British newspaper Guardian described the hospice as an "organised form of neglectful assistance".

Her actions during the trial of Charles Keating, which resulted in a ten-year sentence for his fraud in the S&L debacle, are particularly illuminating. Mother Teresa wrote to the trial judge and appealed for leniency because Keating had donated a large sum to her projects. Oddly enough, it never occurred to her that the money really belonged to the people Keating swindled it from, and she never responded to a request from the judge that she return the stolen funds.

Her theology of suffering produced the following quote: "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

A critic is Dr. Aroup Chatterjee, a physician who formerly worked with the Missionaries of Charity.

I' m surpised you aren' t familiar with the criticism.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Mother Teresa being catholic does not determine her actions...id like to see proof for what LIL B claims...

I think Storm elaborated nicely from my post. You can also do some research regarding this. Im not gonna do it for you.

And her religion has nothing to do with her personality - she was not a model Catholic at any rate, and shockingly so, she was a rather extreme in her ideas ad practices and interpretation of Catholicism.

It is also rather interesting how many non-Catholics praise Mother Teresa.

Storm..LIL B....

This is TOTAL news to me......

I always thought she was this wondorful person. I mean I saw all these documentaries, read all these articles, I had never yet heard anything like this. This is truly heart breaking.

The one Christian figure I think it genuine, loving, and more down to Earth than anyone....and I'm WRONG ?

I thought that among the Christian Figures (Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard, Pope Benedict, Pope John Paul II, Shirley Phelps Roper, etc.) that there was ONE genuine star among them.

I thought that Mother Teresa was true....its very sad that the one Christian I regarded as a great role model is nothing more than a sham....

So as of now, I have NO Christian role models....why does this happen ? This will not help inspire any positive perspective on Christianity for me.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
The Catholic Church is extremely corrupt - and I would not be the slightest bit surprised if Lil B's words carried truth. I'll have to study a bit on what she's posted - however, I must admit I was always under the impression that Mother Theresa was a fairly decent woman.

Despite what she has done(or what anyone has done for that matter), the intentions of her heart, as well as her acceptance of Christ being her Lord and Saviour, and the repentance of any sins she's commited - is the *only* determining factor regarding her *sainthood*(at least before God).

Yes, the Catholic Church IS corrupt, just like the Protestant Church, just like ALL Churches.

Corruption is NOT simply a Catholic thing, so please....cut the bigotry out already.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes, the Catholic Church IS corrupt, just like the Protestant Church, just like [b]ALL Churches.

Corruption is NOT simply a Catholic thing, so please....cut the bigotry out already. [/B]

Never stated that they wasn't corruption at some level. Unfortunately, corruption and sin is now the inherent nature of man(after the fall of course). But the Catholic Church, historically - as well as doctrinally, seems to be extremely pagan in its beliefs(particularly regarding the Trinity, the diefication of Mary, praying to saints, and confessing sins to priests).

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Never stated that they wasn't corruption at some level. Unfortunately, corruption and sin is now the inherent nature of man(after the fall of course). But the Catholic Church, historically - as well as doctrinally, seems to be extremely pagan in its beliefs(particularly regarding the Trinity, the diefication of Mary, praying to saints, and confessing sins to priests).

Corruption and sin is not the inherent nature of man. 🙄 Corruption occurs because of atrophy. Human nature is far more complex then the over simplified statements, like the one above.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Never stated that they wasn't corruption at some level. Unfortunately, corruption and sin is now the inherent nature of man(after the fall of course). But the Catholic Church, historically - as well as doctrinally, seems to be extremely pagan in its beliefs(particularly regarding the Trinity, the diefication of Mary, praying to saints, and confessing sins to priests).

You call pagan beleifs the catholic corruption ? 🙄

Idiotic.....the REAL corruption was:

1) Selling of Indulgences
2) Spanish Inquisition
3) Crusades

And as for Protestant corruption:

1) Salem Witch Trials
2) near extermination of Native Americans

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes, the Catholic Church IS corrupt, just like the Protestant Church, just like [b]ALL Churches.

Corruption is NOT simply a Catholic thing, so please....cut the bigotry out already. [/B]

The church becomes so with time, and as an idea is not what was originally (as far as I graspped) intended for Christianity, or rather what Jesus intended.

If I remember corrctly, the closest thing to Jesus' words said that God is supposed to be everywhere, not in the four walls.

I believe Jesus tried to liberate certain laws, not make them worse. Go figure.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The church becomes so with time, and as an idea is not what was originally (as far as I graspped) intended for Christianity, or rather what Jesus intended.

If I remember corrctly, the closest thing to Jesus' words said that God is supposed to be everywhere, not in the four walls.

I believe Jesus tried to liberate certain laws, not make them worse. Go figure.

yes, but seeing as how some of those who claim to follow and devout thier lives to Jesus, don't truly stay loyal to his words, it makes me question Jesus's "divinity"...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
yes, but seeing as how some of those who claim to follow and devout thier lives to Jesus, don't truly stay loyal to his words, it makes me question Jesus's "divinity"...

No one can completely stay *loyal* to Jesus's words - due to the nature of sin. Jesus and Paul strongly expressed this view, which greatly contradicted the common views of what the Pharisees, Scribes, and other Legalistics had regarding salvation. Faith in Christ - is the only thing that is required in order to obtain true salvation. This faith in Christ, will produce good works in a believer - whom is being lead to do these works by the Holy spirit, not themselves.

Regarding your other statement, the paganistic practices of the Catholic Church - and the pride many of their highest officials and/or priests had regarding these sinful practices, is the predominant reason as to why such abysmal acts were commited. I'm sure you know and understand this - but due to your nature, you(and others like you) purposely fain ignorance in order to project Catholicism and its teachings as being synonomous with the true teachings of Christ. In doing so - you hope to thus diminish the truth and love which his(Christ's) word contains - while at the same time exalting your own doctrinal beliefs(Of course I know you'll now dogmatically and doctrinally respond to the last line - by stating that you follow no religion or doctrine - however, I felt it necessary to put it in there anyway - because if it does nothing else, at least it will serve the purpose of p*ssing you off...He..He..He).

^ Sin does not have a nature. 🙄

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Regarding your other statement, the paganistic practices of the Catholic Church

Practices that you still continue.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
and the pride many of their highest officials and/or priests had regarding these sinful practices, is the predominant reason as to why such abysmal acts were commited.

And you are still comitting more.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
I'm sure you know and understand this - but due to your nature, you(and others like you) purposely fain ignorance in order to project Catholicism and its teachings as being synonomous with the true teachings of Christ.
Well Catholics have taught about Christ much longer than your religion has. You are the one faining ignorance. Pick up a history book.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
In doing so - you hope to thus diminish the truth and love which his(Christ's) word contains
Oh really. Conservative interpretations of liberlal teachings are always flawed. I suggest you reananlyze excatyl what the message of Chirst was.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
while at the same time exalting your own doctrinal beliefs

Athiesm has no doctrine, so you can't be talking to me. Buddhism has a very loose doctrine and traditionally pushes personal interpretation (Something rptesteantism was founded on but irnically, forgot about 10 years later). You can't be talking to Urizen, because he's agnositc and they don't ahve dogma either. Do you even know what the word dogma means?

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
(Of course I know you'll now dogmatically and doctrinally respond to the last line - by stating that you follow no religion or doctrine - however, I felt it necessary to put it in there anyway - because if it does nothing else,

Really, because what do you ever do but spew dogma?

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
at least it will serve the purpose of p*ssing you off...He..He..He).
Yeah, because thats what this forum is about. Exactly.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ Sin does not have a nature. 🙄

Sure, it does.

HUMAN NATURE...oh, snaps, and whatnot.

Who is Xpac and what did he do? I missed this cause I have been absent for some time. 😮

Originally posted by FeceMan
Sure, it does.

HUMAN NATURE...oh, snaps, and whatnot.

You have it so upside down. A child does not sin; we learn how to do wrong.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have it so upside down. A child does not sin; we learn how to do wrong.

Newp. We just learn how to sin better as we age.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Newp. We just learn how to sin better as we age.

What sin does a new born child do? And please don't give me this sins of the father crap.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What sin does a new born child do? And please don't give me this sins of the father crap.

Newborn chilluns don't do sin.

Once they develop their mental faculties, however, they do.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Newborn chilluns don't do sin.

Once they develop their mental faculties, however, they do.

They learn it...