Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
you require thought to use any gems but you can do so subconsciously too. Just look at the elders of the universe like Runnerk, Champion, etc.And even if it cost time just thinking it, it still yields better result and absurdly more versatility.
By controlling time or the time stream, you have dominion over everything that has happened and over everything that will happen, because you can either cancel it out or allow it to flow.
Originally posted by Mr Master
By controlling time or the time stream, you have dominion over everything that has happened and over everything that will happen, because you can either cancel it out or allow it to flow.
I can't imagine a more boring existence.... no risk, no surprise, no death to worry about..... i'd go insane with the dullness of it all
I wouldn't want any of the infinity gems
Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree youd get far more results by warping reality than anything else,but the bottom line is whether you do it subconciously os conciously, you still have to use thought to warp, and thought takes time and time is controlled by the Time Gem.
😱 But it's not a fight. you don't have to dominate anyone here and surely you don't have anyone in our world who has a real time gem to stop you anytime you go rogue with the reality gem
Originally posted by Scoobless
I can't imagine a more boring existence.... no risk, no surprise, no death to worry about..... i'd go insane with the dullness of it allI wouldn't want any of the infinity gems
I feel you brother,
but I would LOVE any of the Gems, but the Time Gem most of all, if I had to choose another it would be the Reality Gem.
And by the way not all the Gems negate risk, surprise or death
Time - will
Space - does not make you infallible - can't control the future - does not make you immortal - you still have risk/surprise/or death
Power - again you can still make mistakes - and you can't see past today and you can still be killed(although it would take a force greater than the universe to do so), but you can die
Reality - your still fallible(you control all reality)but this does not mean you can't warp the universe the wrong way and have it collapse on you so there are risks and you can't forsee events so there is surprise, as for death I'm not sure, but my logic tells me you are not immortal, you can warp reality every which way that doesn't mean you can stop time from catching up to you
Mind - you can die - no visions of the future but your probably infallible, since you have mastery over all minds it's safe to say you have mastery over your own
Soul - well your definitely immortal so scratch out death, but the future is a mystery and you can sure make the wrong move so you still have risks and surprise
Only the Time Gem grants you all three - Immortality - Omniscience of the past and future and infallibility since you can always go back and correct what you did wrong, which is also why the Time Gem rules them all.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
😱 But it's not a fight. you don't have to dominate anyone here and surely you don't have anyone in our world who has a real time gem to stop you anytime you go rogue with the reality gem
I don't really understand what your saying buddy 😕
I was trying to say that with the Time Gem no one can react with any of the other Gems unless the wielder of the Time Gem allows it, thus the Time Gem rules
Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't really understand what your saying buddy 😕I was trying to say that with the Time Gem no one can react with any of the other Gems unless the wielder of the Time Gem allows it, thus the Time Gem rules
And you know, the premise of the thread is basically asking you which would you prefer to have and doesnt' say anything about working in conjunctions with another thread. I mean a wielder of the reality gem might feasably lose to a wielder of a time gem but that doesnt' mean of course the time gem has more versatility or power. It's only asking for a gem you would rather prefer over the other without all the other outside factors.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
And you know, the premise of the thread is basically asking you which would you prefer to have and doesnt' say anything about working in conjunctions with another thread. I mean a wielder of the reality gem might feasably lose to a wielder of a time gem but that doesnt' mean of course the time gem has more versatility or power. It's only asking for a gem you would rather prefer over the other without all the other outside factors.
I see what you mean and your right
I should have phrased the title the other way
but you do agree after what I explained that the Time Gem is the most powerful of the six?
time is way over rated. if you control all reality im sorry dude but you control time too. i beleive that the reality gem can do its best to mimic the others..as an example just the other day i read that marvel team up where ringmaster got a shard of the cosmic cube, and he warped reality to make spiderman and moonknight invulnerbale b4 he blew them up by turning spidey's webs into high explosives...that basically covers the power gem right there. especially seeing as how thr RG is more powerful that a shard of a cosmic cube.
so to break it down:
powergem- if ringmastre can make other ppl invulnerable with the cosmic cube ring the R.G can do that too, or amp up thier strentgh
mind gem-if one can do that they can easily will telpathy on themsleves as well.
space gem-mutants like exodus and proteus use thier reality warping abilties to teleport vast distances..so thats covered right there... a reality warping gem wont have trouble doing the same. the soul gem might be a little tricky tho, i concede to that, but since the reality gem can create and UN-create matter im willing to go out on a limb and say that it can proably create all new gems any-freaking-way
besides how many times have you seen space based adventurers like adam warlock, the surfer, thanos , captain marvel or quasar go on some mission, especially when they go to parlay with some abstract like eternity and the caption read that they venture to a place that exists outside of time and space...like infinty's realm, where LT lives, where Atlez lives, the ultraverse, and even the q-zone. all of those and many others are realms independent of the concept of time...which brings me back to my original stance...time is way overrated..😄
Originally posted by Mr Master
I feel you brother,but I would LOVE any of the Gems, but the Time Gem most of all, if I had to choose another it would be the Reality Gem.
And by the way not all the Gems negate risk, surprise or death
Time - will
Space - does not make you infallible - can't control the future - does not make you immortal - you still have risk/surprise/or death
Power - again you can still make mistakes - and you can't see past today and you can still be killed(although it would take a force greater than the universe to do so), but you can die
Reality - your still fallible(you control all reality)but this does not mean you can't warp the universe the wrong way and have it collapse on you so there are risks and you can't forsee events so there is surprise, as for death I'm not sure, but my logic tells me you are not immortal, you can warp reality every which way that doesn't mean you can stop time from catching up to you
Mind - you can die - no visions of the future but your probably infallible, since you have mastery over all minds it's safe to say you have mastery over your own
Soul - well your definitely immortal so scratch out death, but the future is a mystery and you can sure make the wrong move so you still have risks and surprise
Only the Time Gem grants you all three - Immortality - Omniscience of the past and future and infallibility since you can always go back and correct what you did wrong, which is also why the Time Gem rules them all.
With the time gem you can suspend your aging, but you'd still be susceptible to physical harm. The time space continuum at the end of the day is an aspect of reality, so the reality gem would be the greatest. You could set the physical laws of the universe, you could make yourself invulnerable and give yourself any power. Being one with reality would also make you omniscient and to a greater scale than the time gem as time doesnt encompass all. Reality is all there is.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
With the time gem you can suspend your aging, but you'd still be susceptible to physical harm. The time space continuum at the end of the day is an aspect of reality, so the reality gem would be the greatest. You could set the physical laws of the universe, you could make yourself invulnerable and give yourself any power. Being one with reality would also make you omniscient and to a greater scale than the time gem as time doesnt encompass all. Reality is all there is.
This reads beautifully but my arguement stands the same,
everything must first pass through the circumference of Time in order to reach the center of any opportunity, you need time to use your imagination/think to warp something/reality which the Time Gem controls. Also the IG. is only effective in 616 as you know, 616 is subject to Time(not outside time & space)so Time dominates.
Originally posted by manjaro
time is way over rated. if you control all reality im sorry dude but you control time too. i beleive that the reality gem can do its best to mimic the others..as an example just the other day i read that marvel team up where ringmaster got a shard of the cosmic cube, and he warped reality to make spiderman and moonknight invulnerbale b4 he blew them up by turning spidey's webs into high explosives...that basically covers the power gem right there. especially seeing as how thr RG is more powerful that a shard of a cosmic cube.so to break it down:
powergem- if ringmastre can make other ppl invulnerable with the cosmic cube ring the R.G can do that too, or amp up thier strentgh
mind gem-if one can do that they can easily will telpathy on themsleves as well.
space gem-mutants like exodus and proteus use thier reality warping abilties to teleport vast distances..so thats covered right there... a reality warping gem wont have trouble doing the same. the soul gem might be a little tricky tho, i concede to that, but since the reality gem can create and UN-create matter im willing to go out on a limb and say that it can proably create all new gems any-freaking-way
besides how many times have you seen space based adventurers like adam warlock, the surfer, thanos , captain marvel or quasar go on some mission, especially when they go to parlay with some abstract like eternity and the caption read that they venture to a place that exists outside of time and space...like infinty's realm, where LT lives, where Atlez lives, the ultraverse, and even the q-zone. all of those and many others are realms independent of the concept of time...which brings me back to my original stance...time is way overrated..😄
Nice monologue
but like I told GS, Time does exist and is of consequence in the 616 universe where the Gems have any jurisdiction, so in realities where time is meaningless, your theories are absolutely correct but in 616 Time is official.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
With the time gem you can suspend your aging, but you'd still be susceptible to physical harm. The time space continuum at the end of the day is an aspect of reality, so the reality gem would be the greatest. You could set the physical laws of the universe, you could make yourself invulnerable and give yourself any power. Being one with reality would also make you omniscient and to a greater scale than the time gem as time doesnt encompass all. Reality is all there is.
"With the time gem you can suspend your aging"
You could also stop time completely and never age=immortal...
"you'd still be susceptible to physical harm"
Harm that can be undone since the Gem makes you master of the time continuum and even before harm arrives you can see into every future thus avoiding such harms...
"reality gem would be the greatest. You could set the physical laws of the universe, you could make yourself invulnerable and give yourself any power"
With the Time Gem you can go back to before you did all those wonderful things and negate it all, even going back to before you was a baby taking out your descendants thus making you non-existent...
"Being one with reality would also make you omniscient and to a greater scale than the time gem as time doesnt encompass all"
How can you be more omniscient than some one who has absolute control over the future and the past?
Reality Gem omniscience is only effective in the present but the Time Gem controls the entire spectrum of the Time continuum past - present and future.
"Reality is all there is"
In 616 it's not all, there's also Time, and this is the only place the Gems can be put to use.
If I was on Marvel Earth I would personally want the Mind Gem. Not only for the increased intellect but also the access it would give me to the numerous super intellects on the planet. Nearly power or ability I wished to possess from immortality or energy/matter manipulation I could conceivably achieve with technological/genetic/magical means.
well at least with any of the other gems one has tangible power, as opposed to being a glorified time traveller...i see the time gem the same way isee the linear men in DC...yeah they can stop, rewind and fast foward time at will, but thats just from their perspective...its the same with the gem...you could stop time for eons if you felt like but as soon as you relax the command it would be as if you lived entire millenias in a few millisecs..again no big deal...... when you control reality you set the rules. time is merely an aspect of ALL THERE IS.