Originally posted by Mr Master
"What would it mean to have absolute control over time?"Exactly that, absolute control over time...
Circular reasoning to qavoid answering a question.
Repeat: What would it mean to have absolute control over time?
Do not answer by rephrasing the question as a statement.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"Does this mean you can make things not exist simply by willing it?Yes because you can go back in Time and then stop the Time stream or continuum from flowing forward, there by not allowing the future to occur, thus making things non-existent...
Mmm hmm...
So you go back in time and stop the way you preceive time. meaning you cease to exist in the current time stream however as evens have occured, in the past and in the future you really haven't done anything but stop the way your preceive the normal flow of time.
Useless.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"or are you limited to a more pseudolinear concept as to beinmg able to move yourself and others through time, but once you do this are powerless in any other reguard?"With the Time Gem you would be able to affect every particle in the 616 universe from neutrinos to galaxies, so you would be able to move others through Time including anything else in existence, but I suppose you are powerless(depending on how you define it)in terms of exploding worlds with a wave of a hand or turning your granny into miss piggy, yes, but the way around that is to go into the deep future and take some galaxy destroying weapon, or perhaps go to the point where the Untimate Nullifier was conceived and steal the idea,
[ "steal the idea"
knowledge without ability. Here's a thought: why don't you build the ultimate nullifier?
Oh right you can't cause you don't have the ability to.
Secondly you would have to search to retreive the data... but I guess you have the time, where as a reality gem can just make it appear and use it on the time gem user.
Tell me if things ceases to exist when a person goes into the past, how can they return to the future which does not exist? your linear concept of time is fundementally flawed and vastly different to the way it works in the MU.
Originally posted by Mr Master
then I can blow up a universe at will, so are you really powerless because you can't shift reality, I think not, there are so many avenues when you control Time, remeber it was a time traveller(anti-monitor)that nearly destroyed the entire multiverse, without this abiltiy he would not have had this caapability...
If you travel in to the past, the future does not cease to be. otherwise time travel would be impossible for traveling into the past would erase your future, you would cease to exist. Travel into the future as I said before based on interpritation of the way you preceive time to be.
Also how do you travel spatially with out the space gem? Again, limited to your own powers and abilities how would you acheive anything that you imply as a given?
How would you discover the location of the place the ultimate nullifier was conceived if limited to your own abilities plus the control of time? For you seem to imply extra knowledge and extra travel method.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"Sure it'sd be nice to go back in time and acheive certain events. but without the ability to alter what you already know to be destined to occur, how would you?"Actually if you control Time you control the destiny of everything, because you can allow it to crystalize or not(by stopping time)...
so you stop time. then what? allow it to occur? or exist outside of time with the rest of time stopped?
But again this implies that by stoping time, or even traveling into the past the future ceases to exist. your birth would not have occured if you travel to the past beyond the time of your birth.
I'm sorry but again the concept is not harmonious with the MU concept of time.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"like if the sun were going to explode what good would the time gem do for you? to travel back in time... and then what? Slow the Sun's time down..."Good question, and you pretty much answered it for me, only if I knew the sun was going to explode, I would go back in time to when the sun was in it's prime, then I would not allow the sun alone to flow forward in the Time Stream, keeping it in suspended animation if you will but functioning normally since it would stay in it's prime forever. With the Time Gem you can manipulate the Time Stream of even individuals as well as individual planets or star systems, like keeping you young forever or not allowing pollution on earth to progress, etc etc... It's beautifful isn't it.
"wouldn't that also decrease the number of nuclear reactions and thus the light and heat that arrives at Earth?"
Not at all, or why would it? If the Sun is functioning normally but isn't getting older, what side effect could that have other than guaranteeing us that we will never be charded by the suns ever growing heat and mass...
because by controlling the nuclear reactions you are reaching outside of your own preset time abilities. if they occur we have heat and light. If they do not we do not.
without just the right number life could not exist as it does.
So once again you overstep the boundries of what time manipulation allows. another implied power.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"I'm sorry but you make it sound as if the Time gem has a bit more power than it has."Well --- I think I proved it...
No, implyuing more power to justify implying more power does not prove a thing except your concept of your power is fundementally flawed as it does not coincide with the MU's concept of time.
I think I'll stick with the reality gem and acheive everything you implied.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"Knowledge without ability is useless. Ability without knowlegdge is wreckless. I'd rather be wreckless than useless"Nice saying, but evidently from what I explained you'd be far from useless with the Time Gem.
Sure if - oh wait you said time gem again. Sorry, I thought you said Reality gem, as that's what you'd need to acheive half of the things you imply the time gem can do.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And the most dangerous thought I can conceive is being able to manipulate all the matter and energy in a universe and be a wreckless at the same time, you may be powerful but you could also have the universe collapse in on itself from a wreckless thought, of course you could always remake it since you would be master of all reality, the fact to ponder though is it would all be different, since your human imagination cannot perceive the universe's original intricate architecture(only the Mind Gem grants this awareness)and you wouldn't be able to create humans iether, since you can't arrange a soul/conciousness(only the Soul Gem allows this)no matter how much matter and energy you can warp, but like I told the other guy you can always create human bodies(organic matter)but they would be mindless robots and you would have to set a course or program for them to follow since they would have no free will but you probably wouldn't have intellect for that either since you don't have the Mind Gem...
Appearently you aren't aware of how far the human imagination can go as far as Nobodies go.
I suggest you play the Kingdom hearts game series. And tell me about how heartless, soulless nobodies cannot act, and react as if they were human.
Anyway I'm not sure why I'd want to do that, personally none of my designs are as gradiosie as to attempt to create life artificially. maybe to aide my ability to create it naturally. lol
It would certainly aide things.