Darth Traya versus DN Kyp Durron and DN Kyle Katarn

Traya is at her peak, before the Malachor Academy.

Same with Katarn and Durron.

Which team wins?

I see this as a very close battle. Two very powerful force users and lightsaber duelists against one Uber force user. Hard to say. I almost see this as being a tie.

Please. DN Kyp can do this by himself. Adding Kyle is overkill.

Na, I think Traya takes this...Just my opinion ofcourse.

Traya.

There's no reason to believe Traya can randomly throw out her instakill against powerful force users such as the duo.

I think you're the first one to use the word "instakill" in this thread. Nobody has asserted that "Traya can randomly throw out her instakill," in this thread yet.

Ok and? What in the world makes you think Traya has any chance against the duo without her instakill, with th exception of your hatred for anything involving NJO/DN?

I'll respond when you can come up with something civil and devoid of logical fallacies. That requires the absence of trolling and strawman arguments.

and the "ICK vs tdtd War" goes on....

Originally posted by Xepeyon
and the "ICK vs tdtd War" goes on....

Pardon me, but how can it be a war when only one "side" has been banned for it, and the other "side" just asked him to be civil?

Answer? It's not.

Step 1: Remove head from ass.

Step 2: Observe situation

Step 3: Think

Step 4: Type and post

she flings out a whole bunch of lightsabers and butchers them both with the floating lightsaber technique

Originally posted by IKC
I'll respond when you can come up with something civil and devoid of logical fallacies. That requires the absence of trolling and strawman arguments.

ah and here come the quasi intellectual definitions.. You don't have to respond, your hatred for NJO/DN is evident, whether you consider it strawman or not.

Originally posted by tdtd
ah and here come the quasi intellectual definitions.. You don't have to respond, your hatred for NJO/DN is evident, whether you consider it strawman or not.

And I can easily point out your love affair for everything NJO and DN.

Apparently Traya needs her instakill (according to you), even though you provided no evidence for it. And apparently, despite using it on three KotOR era masters, Kyp and Kyle are too powerful for it to be used on, again with no evidence.

Now, I don't believe Traya's going to win the match, but at least provide proof other than the fact they're NJO characters.

What the....

Unless Traya can use her instakill ability she get's owned pretty much.
She might have the greater force knowledge but she doesn't have the power to kick Kyp (with his enormous potential) and Kyle (with force power boost by the Valley and tons of experience) at once. Even one of them would give her a pretty nice fight. Both at once is overkill.

Originally posted by Illustrious
And I can easily point out your love affair for everything NJO and DN.

Yes.

Apparently Traya needs her instakill (according to you), even though you provided no evidence for it.

Right.

And apparently, despite using it on three KotOR era masters, Kyp and Kyle are too powerful for it to be used on, again with no evidence.

We don't even know if she can use it without having the Exile at hand. Then if she can do that we don't even know what it does exactly and I doubt it would match the devastating effect of a blast from Ragnos' sceptre which Kyle is able to survive - and Kyp still does have more power than Kyle.
And I doubt she has the skill required to take them both in lightsaber combat.

Kreia definately has more knowledge of the force then both of them combined. She killed 3 powerful Jedi masters with just a wave of her hand, she can manipulate echoes in the force, she can foresee thousands of years into the future...apparently she was even capable of killing the force itself. No I dont think Kyp and Kyle take this.

Traya might be able to do it cause of her instakill, it's hard to say.

We don't even know if she can use it without having the Exile at hand. Then if she can do that we don't even know what it does exactly and I doubt it would match the devastating effect of a blast from Ragnos' sceptre which Kyle is able to survive - and Kyp still does have more power than Kyle.
And I doubt she has the skill required to take them both in lightsaber combat.

Whether or not she can use it without the Exile nearby is irrelevant for my purpose, considering tdtd automatically brought up the instakill without regard to anything else. The point I made had nothing to do with Traya vs. Kyp and Kyle, it had to do with the love/hate affair for NJO/DN.

Ragnos' scepter being used is dubious. Tavion was using the force energy stored within it to energize Ragnos prior to Jaden walking in, we do not know of the force power of the blast itself. Also, there's the distinct possibility that the dark side ending is uncanon.

Illustrious you're right, I like DN/NJO, and I don't hide it by consider my arguments "logical" if they aren't. Some people need to stop lying to themselves.. And whether or not she can use it without the exile is irrelevant, nothing suggests she would be able to use it on these two before getting cut in half.

Meh, I know too little about either of them to give any accurate judgement.

Originally posted by tdtd
Illustrious you're right, I like DN/NJO, and I don't hide it by consider my arguments "logical" if they aren't. Some people need to stop lying to themselves.. And whether or not she can use it without the exile is irrelevant, nothing suggests she would be able to use it on these two before getting cut in half.

Nothing suggests she has a "recharge" time for it. Stop clutching at straws and actually come up with an argument, before IKC pwns you again...