Spetznaz vs. TheKahn

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'll grant that Superman is no slouch when it comes to brains but there is still the problem of him needing time to explain his plan to your team that is if you believe that Clark is knowledgeable enough about advanced physics which is not the same as engineering and whose to say all that stuff didn't come with instructions 😖hifty:, figuring out a way to compress the mass of the earth around the point you will generate your star, the fact that Hal can protect my team from the explosion, and my team can stop yours before your even get started thanks to Hal's time stop.

One point.

Originally posted by bean_machine
Sorry my internet just slowed up because my roommate is downloading torrent shit.

Well technically speaking, a molecular cloud is made up of roughly 75% hydrogen, 21-24% helium, and trace amounts of other molecules such as dust and mineral grains.

But to my knowledge there only hydrogen needs to be present for a star to form. The helium in the star is there because of nuclear fusion.

Does that answer your question batdude123?

Yes it does. ✅

I really don't think so. If a molecular cloud of pure hydrogen were to be gravitationally disturbed, then star formation can occur. Shock waves from supernovas usually cause the gravitational instability. Since supernovas expel elements like helium, the molecular cloud will no longer be pure helium.

As a star begins to burn up all its hydrogen, the core becomes almost pure helium and then the star becomes pretty much a helium star.

It is also possible for a star to form from pure helium, but its life would be so short, relative to a hydrogen star.

So a star can form from pure hydrogen or pure helium.

All you need for the formation of a star is a cloud of hydrogen or helium that is dense enough to be hot enough to start nuclear fusion.

It is theoretically possible to form a star out of any element lighter than lead, it is just very improbable. If I had the means necessary to condense massive amounts of mass of gold, so that I can produce enough heat for nuclear fusion, I could make a gold sun instead of a hydrogen sun.

Originally posted by bean_machine
I really don't think so. If a molecular cloud of pure hydrogen were to be gravitationally disturbed, then star formation can occur. Shock waves from supernovas usually cause the gravitational instability. Since supernovas expel elements like helium, the molecular cloud will no longer be pure helium.

As a star begins to burn up all its hydrogen, the core becomes almost pure helium and then the star becomes pretty much a helium star.

It is also possible for a star to form from pure helium, but its life would be so short, relative to a hydrogen star.

So a star can form from pure hydrogen or pure helium.

All you need for the formation of a star is a cloud of hydrogen or helium that is dense enough to be hot enough to start nuclear fusion.

It is theoretically possible to form a star out of any element lighter than lead, it is just very improbable. If I had the means necessary to condense massive amounts of mass of gold, so that I can produce enough heat for nuclear fusion, I could make a gold sun instead of a hydrogen sun.

Yes, you pretty much covered what I was asking, but... You said that if the molecular cloud of hydrogen were to be gravitationally disturbed, then the star formation could occur. What did spetznaz say he was going to use exactly for the gravitational disturbance so this could happen? I have to be honest, I kinda zoned out about 3/4 of the way down his LONG post. 😮

Ya know what? Screw the point system. It's kinda getting hard catching up with everything especially when I'm gone. So from now on I'm going to leave this match up to the general opinion of the people.

bump... 😄

Pretty interesting argument. So it is assumed that Green Lantern's "time stopping" ability will give Kahn's team enough time for a counter? I guess that's similar to Tempo's ability to cause time to flow at different rates for different individuals. However, assuming Hal pulls a "time stop," the rate of time inside the bubble would be normal right? Well, Green Lanterns have a 24 hour limit before they have to recharge, and increments of maybe 7 to 10 seconds will be given to Spetznaz each time Green Lantern breaks the bubble and has to recharge. Unless someone tells me that time is different in the shield bubble since I don't know much about the "time stop" deal o.0.

PS. You guys are model debators for sure!

another bumpity

bump 😄