Iran joins 'countries with nuclear technology'

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
It's not cheap talk--a third country is more than enough reason. Speaking of which, why aren't you enlisted?

Yep. Yep. I mean, one country invaded in response to an actual terror threat (Afghanistan), one invaded for shadowy reasons on false pretenses that was no threat and had nothing to do with Bin Laden. Yeah, two just ain't enough. But a third country that hasn't actually harmed the US invaded in contradiction to international laws, get ye to the recruiting office! It's the patriotic thing to do! Third times the winner!

Seriously I wondered at the double think of late. Recently on the news their was the big headline: Australia considering loosening laws and importing uranium to India, perhaps following US lead, despite India not being a signatory to all those nuclear acts. The next story was: Iran presses ahead with nuclear program, west shocked/outraged - they haven't signed all those nuclear acts, they are a threat.

I mean gee, hypocrisy or what? I'm not saying India and Iran are the same, but it just strikes me laughable that we will happily consider selling uranium to one nation with an existing nuclear arsenal and plans to expand that has on more then one occasion been on the brink with it's neighbours, but then scream bloody murder when another does a bit of enrichment. Especially when neither are full signatories of the relevant acts and don't allow UN inspectors to inspect.

But in the end I see no reason why Iran shouldn't be allowed to develop nuclear energy and do nuclear research. Of course it will probably lead to bombs being built (hell, what was one of the first things the US did with their early atomic research? Build some bombs? Drop a couple on Japan?) It a bad thing. It would be good if it didn't have to happen. But does the west have the legislative right to tell a nation they can't carry out atomic research? No.

Iran is asking to be bombed by Israel here:

TEHRAN, Iran - The president of
Iran again lashed out at
Israel on Friday and said it was "heading toward annihilation," just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time.
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President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated. He also appeared to again question whether the Holocaust really happened.

"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

Ahmadinejad provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map.

Iran is heading for annihilation speaking like that. That's there freaking president saying that.

This is one of the main reasons why Iran shouldn't even be allowed near anything Nuclear.

He was so poetic in the end.........a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm. Wow I have such an image in my mind now, how beautiful.

Its ridiculious of people to sit back and say wow you guys in Iran have it going on nice job. By the way we know you wanna blow up your neighbors thats ok because we realize you just want a better energy source for your country though.

B.S. its not just the US asking Iran to back off of its production. I would bet they have weapons grade. No way in hell they are talking about blowing Israel off the map without something to back their game.

The middle east is such a religious crap house.

That's what I was saying. I don't think they would be talking sh!t like that without having something to back it up. They probably already have at least one nuke. Or enough material to make one.

If USA enters into Iran, USA will collapse. As you may know, Iran is much stronger than Iraq. USA have to risk much for this war. I know USA put Ahmedinecad in charge to haste the invasion of USA.

USA is scared to invade Iran by the way because they know Iran will resist.

For the nuclear threat, no need to worry yet. See 6 months later

What really amuses me is then when someone says..........."Why should you take the ability for them to produce energy for their people away with nuclear power?" The altruistics come in and IT gets piled on fast and deep.

Originally posted by Darkman87
If USA enters into Iran, USA will collapse. As you may know, Iran is much stronger than Iraq. USA have to risk much for this war. I know USA put Ahmedinecad in charge to haste the invasion of USA.

USA is scared to invade Iran by the way because they know Iran will resist.

For the nuclear threat, no need to worry yet. See 6 months later

US will probably not be doing it alone. Most likely ISRAEL will make the first move since Iran is clearly threatening them. Israel could easily annihilate Iran right now. Israel is very well capable of handling their own problems.

I actually look forward to Israel acting first in self defense. If they take out Iran, one less problem we have to worry about.

If you act first, it's not self-defense.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
If you act first, it's not self-defense.

If you act in response, your to late. The best defense is a great offense............paraphrased Art of War blah blah blah.

Yeah, what he said..

Originally posted by Soleran
If you act in response, your to late. The best defense is a great offense............paraphrased Art of War blah blah blah.

Word. But invasion and war isn't the answer. Throwing away thousand's of soldiers isn't the right way to do it.

I remember a certain democratic president who loved head, that bombed weapons facilities in Iraq, so well infact that the next president had to lie about said weapons to invade the country and cause a war.

There's also the saying of the opposite. The best offense is a great defense. Depends on who you ask really.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Word. But invasion and war isn't the answer. Throwing away thousand's of soldiers isn't the right way to do it.

I remember a certain democratic president who loved head, that bombed weapons facilities in Iraq, so well infact that the next president had to lie about said weapons to invade the country and cause a war.

There's also the saying of the opposite. The best offense is a great defense. Depends on who you ask really.

Perhaps but this isn't like someone coming to attack the US with tons of water between us and them this is a border to border war where TONS of destruction can and will occur quickly and leave little space to run. The numbers favor the muslims over the jewish significantly...........technology is Israels friend but going to man to man would be stupid.

If they smell an attack coming it makes sense (not nec to nuke) but to take offensive action to prevent and invassive force.

LOL Art of War also said somthing similar to that the best offense is a great defense🙂 However I illustrated why that might not suite their cause as well.

Eis> "I never said it was more likely for Iran to use nuclear weapons than any other state. I said I'd be more comfortable with Germany or France having nuclear weapons than Iran."
Why?

Diamondbullets> "Middle Eastern Nation + NUCLEAR FUKKING WEAPONS= Terrorist state. You really couldn't figure that out on your own?"
Oh, grow up!
So, Israel, being a Middle Eastern Nation with Nuclear Weapons is a terrorist state????
I don't see why you shouldn't enlist right now. Your brother being in the army does not prevent you from signing up, does it?

Mindship> "I suspect no explanation will satisfy what you're looking for." What do you think I am looking for? What feelings and intentions has Iran stated? Israel do not allow international inspections when it comes to nuclear weapons.

"he/she who thinks Iran is not a threat is living in a dream world."
Doesn't this sound a lot like what was said about Iraq some three years ago? Who attacked who?
I am not adhering to moral relativism. I am merely somewhat upset by the "let's-invade-Iran" yells I hear here. The dictatorship of North Korea certainly is no angel either, but where are the Bush-administrations plans to attack that nation??

jaden101> "who are the west to deny any other country from trying to adopt nuclear energy sources?..."
That's exactly my point. There are a lot of countries I'd rather not see have ANY weapons at all, let alone WMD. But why are some states allowed nuclear weapons and some are not??

PVS> "the nazis and japanese formed an alliance. therefore, yes it was the same war. btw, i have good news. your i.q. test came back negative."
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Imperial Samurai> Well said.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Its only a matter of time before we hit those bastards, too!

Go Dub'ya!

Originally posted by Ushgarak
In your wildest dreams only, PVS.

UN needs the US far more than the other way around.

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Originally posted by PVS
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with what army? we barely even have a national guard because they're over in a hellish sandpit to defend us against the WMD's that were never there, and enriched uranium intelligence that dubya pulled out his ass. now its the real thing and we have little power to stop them.

GO DUBYA!!!

pre-emptive blowup , all of 'em.

We got nukes too.

GO DUBYA!

^I'll just let the above stand there for a while -

perhaps compare it to Adam Warlocks post above...

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
If they take out Iran, one less problem we have to worry about.

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Here's a funny vid nocking Bush for his Iran policy:

http://www.devilducky.com/media/44421/

Originally posted by Soleran
Perhaps but this isn't like someone coming to attack the US with tons of water between us and them this is a border to border war where TONS of destruction can and will occur quickly and leave little space to run. The numbers favor the muslims over the jewish significantly...........technology is Israels friend but going to man to man would be stupid.

If they smell an attack coming it makes sense (not nec to nuke) but to take offensive action to prevent and invassive force.

LOL Art of War also said somthing similar to that the best offense is a great defense🙂 However I illustrated why that might not suite their cause as well.

Word, but you're speaking from the Iraeli's point of view, where they share a border, I was speaking from the American's point of view, where there's 3000 miles of water seperating us and them, and where nothing crosses that water without our knowing.

Certainly if Israel gets solid evidence that there will be some sort of immediate attack on them, it's in their best interest to stop it however they can. I agree with you there.

War only leads to more war. Invade Iran and we will more than likely have another world war, something which should never happen again. Trust is a hard thing, when a president of a country is saying they are going to wipe a nation from the map while at the same time developing uranium for nuclear energy it's hard to just ignore it. However Bush thinks he runs the world and not his country and for some reason feels the need to intervene in every other nation's affairs. Want my advice Bush? Let it be, let them settle their differences on their own because to be honest it has got **** all to do with you.

Why would Iran even think about using WMD on the US or any other western country for that matter? They would be obliterated if such a thing happened. Iran may be labeled as a 'terrorist state' but I was not under the impression they had the capability to launch such weapons half way around the world.