Iran joins 'countries with nuclear technology'

Grey Fox>"america , Britain, france, and the rest of the nuke toting countries have they haven't (so far) declared (several times) that they wish to annihilate an entire country."
Hm... who's currently engaged in war?? Not Iran.

Jaden101> "thats a get out clause of an excuse if ever i read one...regardless there is very little difference."
Well, then you obviously read far too little then. There is a BIG difference between saying an ACT is stupid and childish, and saying an entire PERSON is stupid and childish. You can't tell the difference??? Well, then...

Originally posted by The Omega
Soleran> "He is deliberatly attmepting to stir emotion by exaggerating and exacerbating for imagery, that's just junk."
You go after the MAN, not his arguments is not exactly proving your side of the story isn't it? Just kinda looks like you don't HAVE any counter-arguments.

jaden101>"yet i'm guessing that you think calling people small minded and idiotic is a perfectly acceptable and non childish way of debating?"
Actually, if you'd bother reading Imperial_Samurais post, you'd notice that he called the ACT of wrting "Go Dubya's" absurd and childish. NOT the actual posters. BIG difference.

If you want to play referee fine just keep the rules consistant.

I didn't attack Darth Jello I commented on his depiction of events and said his USE of it sucked, the same way Jaden101 did............ref away. 😉

Iran is also helping fund the Hamas. Iran has recently generously pledged 50 million dollars to the Hamas. What's stopping Iran in a few years from lending the Hamas a few nukes to carry out more bombings. Their was recently a bombing in Tel Aviv during passover. The Hamas called it a legitimate bombing...

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Iran is also helping fund the Hamas. Iran has recently generously pledged 50 million dollars to the Hamas. What's stopping Iran in a few years from lending the Hamas a few nukes to carry out more bombings. Their was recently a bombing in Tel Aviv during passover. The Hamas called it a legitimate bombing...

i know whats stopping them...the fact that THEY DONT HAVE ANY NUKES

i notice you also neglect to mention that hamas are now a democratically elected government

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Originally posted by jaden101
i know whats stopping them...the fact that THEY DONT HAVE ANY NUKES

Did I say they were going to give them anything now besides the the 50 million dollars they pledged? I said in a few years. Did you not read the post? 📖 Iran's generals have been quoting themselves about being able to make nukes in 3 years. If we let them continue on with the Nuclear program, in a few years they could lend the Hamas a nuclear warhead. Annihilate Israel through the Palestinians is probably something they have in mind.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
What's stopping Iran in a few years from lending the Hamas a few nukes to carry out more bombings.

See, I said a few years. 🙂 In a few years they could potentially make good with their threats of annihilating Israel.

Originally posted by jaden101
i notice you also neglect to mention that hamas are now a democratically elected government

Hamas also supports terrorism against Israel and calls legitimate when low life suicide bombers bomb crowded areas.

Originally posted by jaden101
i know whats stopping them...the fact that THEY DONT HAVE ANY NUKES

I know how you feel.

Did I say they were going to give them anything now besides the the 50 million dollars they pledged? I said in a few years. Did you not read the post? Iran's generals have been quoting themselves about being able to make nukes in 3 years. If we let them continue on with the Nuclear program, in a few years they could lend the Hamas a nuclear warhead. Annihilate Israel through the Palestinians is probably something they have in mind.

Once again rhetoric. Saying something doesn't make it so. 3 Years would only be possible if Iran got a major tech and knowledge boost, and soon. And seeing as how the nations capable of offering that are unlikely to do so, Iran is not going to have nuclear weapons to pass out like cigars any time soon.

As well as the fact, you know, the Palestinians actually want the land the Israelis have. It's kind of important to them, chucking dirty bombs or conventional nukes about is not going to do nice things to that land.

As to lending money - whether we like it or not HAMAS is the democratically elected Representatives of the Palestinian people. With the US and EU freezing aid where precisely are they meant to get funds to do anything for the people to elect them? And Iran is perfectly in it's rights to give money to other governments - like the HAMAS authority. And I mean, did you know that various western powers gave money, weapons, knowledge to forces that some would consider terrorist in the past? During the Cold War? Perhaps for a more moral reason, but it happens. Now it is odd the west is crying foul over Iran giving money - expert after expert stated quite clearly after the HAMAS victory that freezing aid funds to them would force them to look for financial help elsewhere - and almost all of them said Iran would be at the top of that list. It's not an unforeseen development.

Also interesting, do you know that US & EU aid has passed millions to HAMAS politicians over the years? This is the first time it has been the ruling government, but HAMAS has plenty of people elected at state level, at local level (mayors etc), and have been elected for years. Thus they have been getting funds for years as well - which incidentally have actually been used on legitimate projects relevant to their posts -maintaining infrastructure, building hospitals, sanitation - all that jazz. The kind of projects mayors and governors are responsible for.

edit: double post

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Did I say they were going to give them anything now besides the the 50 million dollars they pledged? I said in a few years. Did you not read the post? 📖 Iran's generals have been quoting themselves about being able to make nukes in 3 years. If we let them continue on with the Nuclear program, in a [B]few years they could lend the Hamas a nuclear warhead. Annihilate Israel through the Palestinians is probably something they have in mind.

See, I said a few years. 🙂 In a few years they could potentially make good with their threats of annihilating Israel.

Hamas also supports terrorism against Israel and calls legitimate when low life suicide bombers bomb crowded areas. [/B]

you're accusing me of not reading your posts...well how about this one...your very first one in this thread

Israel is really in trouble now that Iran has nukes of it's own.

then of course there was this one

They got nukes. Just like North Korea.

oh...and this

They either have one or two bombs

the delusions are crumbling slightly

Iranians are either lying about not having nukes, or lying about using nuclear energy for the benefit of their country in which they will actually make nukes.

oh no its not

Iran since I'm pretty sure they have nukes in their possession.

keep it up son...you're doin well

They probably already have at least one nuke.

thats right...you can be quiet and go sit in the corner now

Adam Warlock> "What's stopping Iran in a few years from lending the Hamas a few nukes to carry out more bombings."
Well, governments around the world have been known to support other groups or governments who shared their goals/interests etc. The US is a good example.
Why should Iran do such a thing? That would be political suicide. Iranians love their children, too.

"The Hamas called it a legitimate bombing..." Do you know what went ahead of that incident?

Impeial_Samurai> I commend your patience! Really. Thumbs up to you. But do you ever get the feeling they are not READING your posts?

Originally posted by The Omega
Impeial_Samurai> I commend your patience! Really. Thumbs up to you. But do you ever get the feeling they are not READING your posts?

It's something I sometimes suspect, but I will persist!

Originally posted by sithsaber408
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Really I think that we don't need any more nukes in this world. We have too many of the horrible things as it is.

People who actually believe that Iran will not attempt to produce a nuclear weapon are just shitting themselves. Now I'm not saying that anyone should invade Iran becuase that would only cause more problems. However, something must be done to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear technology. Ecenominc(sp sorry) sanctions, something to show Iran that deveolpment of Nuclear weapons will not be tolerated.

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Really I think that we don't need any more nukes in this world. We have too many of the horrible things as it is.

People who actually believe that Iran will not attempt to produce a nuclear weapon are just shitting themselves. Now I'm not saying that anyone should invade Iran becuase that would only cause more problems. However, something must be done to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear technology. Ecenominc(sp sorry) sanctions, something to show Iran that deveolpment of Nuclear weapons will not be tolerated.

Thats conducive~

Iran will, just as thw nuclear others will. There is no differentiation. You will, just as I will.

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Really I think that we don't need any more nukes in this world. We have too many of the horrible things as it is.

People who actually believe that Iran will not attempt to produce a nuclear weapon are just shitting themselves. Now I'm not saying that anyone should invade Iran becuase that would only cause more problems. However, something must be done to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear technology. Ecenominc(sp sorry) sanctions, something to show Iran that deveolpment of Nuclear weapons will not be tolerated.

I believe they will develop nukes. But should sanctions be placed against all the other nations actively maintaining and/or expanding their nuclear arsenal? Wasn't the US toying with the idea of pursuing small bunker busting nukes that would have a place in a conventional military campaign - as opposed to the kind that level cities? And as I said earlier - what about India? Or Russia? Or African nations that might sell uranium indiscriminately - all nations with "questionable" practices when it comes to nuclear research.

Now I wish nukes would fade into the past, but it doesn't seem likely. As such I think the issue should be approached with a level head, and with less panic and hypocrisy from all nations involved.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Now I wish nukes would fade into the past, but it doesn't seem likely. As such I think the issue should be approached with a level head, and with less panic and hypocrisy from all nations involved.

There's not much one person can do. But! You can't forget that you are addressing the few nuclear powers in the world.

less panic, but no less understanding that they exist. Iran should be allowed to sit at the grown up table. After all, they are the same age as the US and ISRAEL. To think less is naive. But, where is Israel in all of this?

Good, I am happy for Iran. Nuclear Energy is such a nice thing. Sucks that they want to shut down our Plants in Germany. I also agree with the President. They certainly have the right to have Nuclear Energy for peaceful purposes. Shame on the Western "free" (right...haha) World for not wanting to grant it.

Capt> Israel does not OFFICIALLY have nucler weapons.

The Israeli government refuses to officially confirm or deny that it has a nuclear weapon program, and has an unofficial but rigidly enforced policy of deliberate ambiguity, saying only that it would not be the first to "introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East".
http://www.newstatesman.com/200603130011

Israel is one of three sovereign nation-states not to sign or ratify the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), the other two being India and Pakistan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4789832.stm

I know, they haven't "officially" announced they have the weapons, but we all know they do. I'm sure Iran knows they do. At least Iran has the guts to admit it. And I wonder where Israel got those weapons?