jla/avengers superman vs. thanos

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You can tell Galactus hadn't had food in a while, but still. That blast Thanos gave Galactus did a lot of damage. Much more than I have ever seen anyone do. This isn't a fight for Thanos. This is fun.

caps shield aint gonna do anything in this fight, even if superman is weilding it, the Mjolnir, may help supes but not that much,thanos still wins. Anyways superman wouldent be able to hold the Mjolnir in reality cause he wont be worth enuff, odin wouldent let him.

Yeah, but we're supposing that he is wielding it.

like it was stated by thundersrike, thanos fought people higher on the food chain thans supes. he can handel speedsters, guys with strenght, and guys with the miojinr like beta ray bill and thor, with ease.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
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You can tell Galactus hadn't had food in a while, but still. That blast Thanos gave Galactus did a lot of damage. Much more than I have ever seen anyone do. This isn't a fight for Thanos. This is fun.

No, it didnt do any damage whatsoever. Galactus is unhurt, just had his physical shell tossed back by the force of the blast, and pissed.

Thor almost killed Galactus and that Galactus was well over 28 feet tall. That Galactus also ran away to avoid certain death. Here Galactus didnt exactly run away did he? No ... we just get to see a deep fried Thanos.

In Thanos defense, this Galactus doesnt look completely starved either. A starving Galactus has been easily hurt by much weaker opponents than Thanos.

Having said that, Thanos is pretty physically strong and can go toe to toe with anyone including an increasingly insane Thor who had earlier knocked around Beta Ray Bill and Surfer like a school yard bully. Superman would have a tough time with Beta Ray Bill who is easily as strong. Thanos is at a different level altogether.

Plus, Superman would have no clue how to use any of the Hammer's capabilities. The Captain's shield should be able to protect him since the it has withstood attacks much greater than what Thanos can unleash (unaided), but it would be just a matter of time before Thanos gets a direct hit.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike

I'm putting this up here to show you why you can't speedblitz Thanos. This guy is gonna see it coming, and just put up a shield to stop you. The guy is a brilliant fighter. This guy has put down people that are far beyond Superman. He's been able to hand with people who eat herald levels for breakfast. Then is no feasible way that using speed against him would work. This is a guy who was able to hang with Odin.

I was going to post this scan. You can't really speedblitz Thanos. That is a former herald of Galactus who moves at warpspeeds, and still wasnt able to meet Thanos.

Basically it's Superman with Mjolnir vs. Thanos..because Caps shield would be manipulated by Thanos (either psionically or by transmutation). Anyway, Thanos has beaten Thor with Mjolnir (who is more adept with it than Superman) on several occassions. In fact, Thor wasn't able to hurt Thanos with it. Once, he took a full blow from a Warrior Madness Thor with Mjolnir and didn't even feel it. Other time, he just stopped it dead in its tracks. He would do the same thing to Superman (as evidenced in the scan above). If Silver Surfer isn't able to scratch Thanos, what makes you think Superman can? He'd get *****-slapped like all the other herald beings galavanting about space like they are a match for him.

Thanos 10/10

Thanos is another one of those characters that Superman just can't beat without some sort of humungous advantage.

Originally posted by Murda Mase
It took Max Lord years to do that.

Yeah, but considering he's just a low level telepath compared to say...Moondragon.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
ko'd? more like momentarily stunned. It's just two small panels in IG where it happened and he got back to his feet a moment later in following page. And that was the whole Marvel crew distracting him.

There was also no indication that it will actually kill Thanos other than Thor's own proclamation.

I'd say that was damn good since Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet when it happened....

And he was momentarily KO'd... I doubt he would just have let Doom get so close to taking it off him.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
ko'd? more like momentarily stunned. It's just two small panels in IG where it happened and he got back to his feet a moment later in following page. And that was the whole Marvel crew distracting him.

There was also no indication that it will actually kill Thanos other than Thor's own proclamation.

I'd say that was damn good since Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet when it happened....

And he was momentarily KO'd... I doubt he would just have let Doom get so close to taking it off him.

The thread starter doesn't say anything about prep, and that scan showing Thanos stopping Mjolnir once is dubious at best...if that was a Thanos clone, it means there was prep involved and Thanos had one of his 1800 forcefields.

Vibranium and Mjolnir > Thanos in both power and durability.
They are being paired with Superman who can go toe to toe in feats with Thanos alone.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'd say that was damn good since Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet when it happened....

And he was momentarily KO'd... I doubt he would just have let Doom get so close to taking it off him.

The thread starter doesn't say anything about prep, and that scan showing Thanos stopping Mjolnir once is dubious at best...if that was a Thanos clone, it means there was prep involved and Thanos had one of his 1800 forcefields.

Vibranium and Mjolnir > Thanos in both power and durability.
They are being paired with Superman who can go toe to toe in feats with Thanos alone.

that would've been great if it was mano-y-mano bout between the two, but there was so many involved against him. Not only that but did he limited the use of the gauntlet dealing with them. he has survived far more devastating attacks(like thor's dad Odin with grugnir shooting him down with Odinforced while pissed off....in Asgard of all places) to be making that claim based on a single event.

Yeah. Even with Mjolnir, the fact that Superman still wouldn't be as powerful as Odin is huge. He's gonna get stomped, hard.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'd say that was damn good since Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet when it happened....

And he was momentarily KO'd... I doubt he would just have let Doom get so close to taking it off him.

The thread starter doesn't say anything about prep, and that scan showing Thanos stopping Mjolnir once is dubious at best...if that was a Thanos clone, it means there was prep involved and Thanos had one of his 1800 forcefields.

Vibranium and Mjolnir > Thanos in both power and durability.
They are being paired with Superman who can go toe to toe in feats with Thanos alone.

ya.

Superman can't go toe to toe with Thanos in feats. He's never outsmarted cosmic beings, or even come close to doing anything that Thanos has done. There's an entire thread of stuff that he's done that is so far beyond Superman that it's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Superman can't go toe to toe with Thanos in feats. He's never outsmarted cosmic beings, or even come close to doing anything that Thanos has done. There's an entire thread of stuff that he's done that is so far beyond Superman that it's ridiculous.

Superman also has a thread full of feats that are easily comparable to what Thanos has done under his own power. If he didn't, I wouldn't bother to say it...and he's outsmarted cosmic beings/gods as well.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
that would've been great if it was mano-y-mano bout between the two, but there was so many involved against him. Not only that but did he limited the use of the gauntlet dealing with them. he has survived far more devastating attacks(like thor's dad Odin with grugnir shooting him down with Odinforced while pissed off....in Asgard of all places) to be making that claim based on a single event.

If I remember correctly, he shut off all sensory input from the gauntlet, correct? He still had access to the gauntlets power.

Supes still has the speed advantage, added to incredible strength, a skyfather level weapon, and another weapon/shield with more durability than Thanos.

I've easily made a comparable case for Supes alone in the past (though that's for other threads) but this is overkill UNLESS Thanos has 1 sided prep.

"Vibranium and Mjolnir > Thanos in both power and durability."

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"They are being paired with Superman who can go toe to toe in feats with Thanos alone."

I don't read enough Supes to argue against this, but Thanos' feats include taking over the universe several times. I'm sure somebody's got a Supes respect thread around here, so maybe I just need to check it out 馃檮 Going off of what I have read and know of his feats, Supes would be Thanos' newest herald...and he wouldn't even be the most powerful.

Originally posted by Crease
"Vibranium and Mjolnir > Thanos in both power and durability."

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Not a valid or mature way to make a point. A very human wolverine penetrated Thanos hide with adamantium which means that Adamantium > Thanos hide. Caps shield is easily as durable or more durable than that. Mjolnir has chased away Galactus who is way higher than Thanos.

Originally posted by Crease
"They are being paired with Superman who can go toe to toe in feats with Thanos alone."

I don't read enough Supes to argue against this, but Thanos' feats include taking over the universe several times. I'm sure somebody's got a Supes respect thread around here, so maybe I just need to check it out 馃檮 Going off of what I have read and know of his feats, Supes would be Thanos' newest herald...and he wouldn't even be the most powerful.

How does taking over the universe with PREP and ENHANCING ITEMS translate into a spur of the moment battle? If thats the case, take Superman out of this battle and throw in Zeus, Eternity and Galactus. Thanos would win those as well.

Child like eye rolling and bad puns isn't exactly the best way to make a point either.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
How does taking over the universe with PREP and ENHANCING ITEMS translate into a spur of the moment battle? If thats the case, take Superman out of this battle and throw in Zeus, Eternity and Galactus. Thanos would win those as well.

Child like eye rolling isn't exactly the best way to make a point either.

True, something accomplished with prep doesn't translate to a spur of the moment battle. I was responding this statement:

"They are being paired with Superman who can go toe to toe in feats with Thanos alone."

No statement regarding feats translates into a spur of the moment battle.
And yes, with prep, Thanos could defeat the aforementioned.

You're also correct with the eye rolling. My intention was to be sarcastic, with us both knowing full well that I wasn't going to search for the Supes respect thread. His fans, and worse his fanboys, don't let you forget what he's done. So without consistently reading him, I still have an overall idea of the things he's accomplished, with and w/o prep. I just don't believe it matches up with Thanos feat list, with and w/o prep.

In closing, if you took offense to the eye rolling, know that it wasn't meant as an insult.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
[B]Not a valid or mature way to make a point. A very human wolverine penetrated Thanos hide with adamantium which means that Adamantium > Thanos hide. Caps shield is easily as durable or more durable than that.

Cap's shield isnt sharp and pointy like a knife ... or wolverine's claws.

Maybe if it's thrown like a discus or frisbee at an extremely high speed it has some chance of bruising Thanos, but that's also assuming Thanos doesnt avoid it, which he is quite capable of doing.

If used directly as a weapon, then, assuming the person is capable of applying sufficient force for the edge of the shield to lacerate flesh, whoever is holding it is more likely to lose their fingers than injure Thanos.


Mjolnir has chased away Galactus who is way higher than Thanos.

1) Mjolnir has never chased away galactus, Thor did using his God-force blast for which Mjolnir is merely a conduit. Superman isnt a god and has no god-force to channel through a hammer or anything else.

2) Superman would have no clue how to access Mjolnir's own abilities like teleporting, anti-force blasts, etc...