DE Sidious vs. Ulic Qel Droma

Then technically it may not affect Luke's skills, but it would allow him to perform to the best of his ability.

Originally posted by Deception
Then technically it may not affect Luke's skills, but it would allow him to perform to the best of his ability.

That's the point, battle meditation does not give the guy skills he never had before. It won't make a stormtrooper beat Marka Ragnos.

But in a sense the best of Luke's skills is above Sidious's abilities.

Oh it might allow a storm trooper to defeat the mummified remains of Ragnos.

Originally posted by Illustrious
That's the point, battle meditation does not give the guy skills he never had before. It won't make a stormtrooper beat Marka Ragnos.

It would be badass if it did.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
It would be badass if it did.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Leia's battle meditation gave Luke lightsaber skills?

Did you see Faunus post on the first page ?

Sidious pwned Luke.
With Battle Meditation Luke pwned Sidious.
So...do you have another explanation why Luke was able to win against Sidious instead of Leia's battle meditation ? Because I don't see one.

Of course it didn't "gave Luke lightsaber skills" but it clearly enabled him to defeat somebody that defeated him before.

Well personally the best of Luke's saber skills > best of Sidious and Battle Meditation enabled him to do just that.

right

Why are we arguing over Luke's saber skills anyway?

I forget, because someone said Ulic could beat DE Sidious in a saber battle and most likely in an overall battle.

Originally posted by tdtd
I forget, because someone said Ulic could beat DE Sidious in a saber battle and most likely in an overall battle.

Well seeing as he was able to hold is own against Exar who would wipe his ass with DE Sidious I think Ulic would be defeat DE Sidious.

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Well seeing as he was able to hold is own against Exar who would wipe his ass with DE Sidious I think Ulic would be defeat DE Sidious.

Oh because he was able to hold his own with Kun, who was yet to be crowned DLOTS, and before he developed his new style and learned more sith magic, he is automatically above everyone that Kun is above? That's not a real good argument, you'd be essentially saying that Ulic>NJO Luke and Ulic>Freedon Nadd maybe, etc..

before he developed his new style

so explain what puts him above DE Sidious again since I didn't catch your first argument? Besides, of course, the "Omg he stalemated Exar Kun he's l337" argument.

I'm not jumping through hoops for you. I've argued Ulic's skills before, and you've read them. Put it together yourself.

Yes you have, but for everyone he fights, you make the same argument? Why not just say he pwns everybody that Exar Kun pwns, that TOTJ owns anything PT and Post ROTJ, and that you saved a bunch of money on your car insurance by switching to Geico?

Considering my argument explains his skills and puts them in relevant context, I feel safe making the claim that it's pretty universal.

Yes, because Ulic>NJO Luke is anywhere near accurate..
Because Ulic>Freedon Nadd is anywhere near accurate.

Because Ulic's force abilities come anywhere close to most of the powerful SW characters...please..

Nice...

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Can you tell me which of the "holding the weapon with two hands and doing heavy strikes" (looks like form V) styles is his "unique" one exactly ?

Or did you think about the unique style he uses later with his unique weapon only which he clearly didn't use against Ulic ?

Nai, is this in the right thread?

So it is quite known that DE Sidious is superior to Ulic in the force obviously, and in an all out battle Sidious would position himself to win the fight as he did against Yoda, unless of course you're suggesting Ulic is smarter than Yoda, which would be more speculation in favor of the hothead.