Originally posted by who?-kidi kno thats y i said stalemate...juggs won't be able to touch champ unless he is not trying to fight him...
But doesn't use them 😉
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Maybe (very maybe) Champion would toss Juggernaut around, but he will not hurt Juggernaut. He isn't strong enough for that.Juggernaut however is more than strong enough to hurt Champion.
Juggernaut is probably stronger (not sure), and if he isn't, they are about equal, but he is definitely a lot more durable. Once Juggernaut starts pounding on the Champion, the Champion will be in a world of pain.
I still haven't seen ONE good reason to assume the Champion will win.
Hmm...Juggernaut got beat by Spiderman and some cement...
Champion kidnapped a dozen of Earth's biggest powerhouses like Thor, Hulk, Namor, Thing, etc...then held the whole planet hostage to make them fight him. Earth's combined forces including Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Charles Xavioer, could do nothing to stop him.
He also reduced civilized planet to space debris with a single punch in an issue of Silver Surfer.
Juggernaut took 10 years to dig his way out from under a collapsed cave?
In all but one confrontation with the Hulk, Cain ended up KO'd or an inch from being decapitated...In fact, he's routinely been beaten in almost all of his comic book appearances...I guess ur fanboy delusion keeps u from realizing this.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Hmm...Juggernaut got beat by Spiderman and some cement...Champion kidnapped a dozen of Earth's biggest powerhouses like Thor, Hulk, Namor, Thing, etc...then held the whole planet hostage to make them fight him. Earth's combined forces including Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Charles Xavioer, could do nothing to stop him.
He also reduced civilized planet to space debris with a single punch in an issue of Silver Surfer.
Juggernaut took 10 years to dig his way out from under a collapsed cave?
In all but one confrontation with the Hulk, Cain ended up KO'd or an inch from being decapitated...In fact, he's routinely been beaten in almost all of his comic book appearances...I guess ur fanboy delusion keeps u from realizing this.
Juggernaut is like an invulnerable Hulk, he'll give Champion a serious run for his money. Probably beat him into a pulp if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Wynndar
Hmm...Juggernaut got beat by Spiderman and some cement...
Champion kidnapped a dozen of Earth's biggest powerhouses like Thor, Hulk, Namor, Thing, etc...then held the whole planet hostage to make them fight him. Earth's combined forces including Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Charles Xavioer, could do nothing to stop him.
Juggernaut took 10 years to dig his way out from under a collapsed cave?
In all but one confrontation with the Hulk, Cain ended up KO'd or an inch from being decapitated...In fact, he's routinely been beaten in almost all of his comic book appearances...I guess ur fanboy delusion keeps u from realizing this.
I just read up on what the power primordal does for Champion, and all it does is increase his physical attributes. Unlike the other elders all he used his power to do is increase his physical attributes. Well we all know that physical attributes don't matter against Juggernaut for he is the symbol of physical power in the 616 universe.
If someone can show me some scans of Champion using all the martial arts he claims he knows I would appreciate it.
Can I also see the speed that people in this thread says he has?
What does knowing all those fighting styles matter if they don't affect your opponent?
Originally posted by WynndarDidn't Surfer knock the sh!t out of Champion one time?
Hmm...Juggernaut got beat by Spiderman and some cement...Champion kidnapped a dozen of Earth's biggest powerhouses like Thor, Hulk, Namor, Thing, etc...then held the whole planet hostage to make them fight him. Earth's combined forces including Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Charles Xavioer, could do nothing to stop him.
He also reduced civilized planet to space debris with a single punch in an issue of Silver Surfer.
Juggernaut took 10 years to dig his way out from under a collapsed cave?
In all but one confrontation with the Hulk, Cain ended up KO'd or an inch from being decapitated...In fact, he's routinely been beaten in almost all of his comic book appearances...I guess ur fanboy delusion keeps u from realizing this.
Yea I think he did.
Originally posted by soujaboy09Heres scans of Champion being knocked out by Norrin Radd by a simple power cosmic blast. Champions durability seems to be kinda low tier if you ask me. He had his ribs broken by Thing too.(Posted scan a few pages back).
I just read up on what the power primordal does for Champion, and all it does is increase his physical attributes. Unlike the other elders all he used his power to do is increase his physical attributes. Well we all know that physical attributes don't matter against Juggernaut for he is the symbol of physical power in the 616 universe.If someone can show me some scans of Champion using all the martial arts he claims he knows I would appreciate it.
Can I also see the speed that people in this thread says he has?
What does knowing all those fighting styles matter if they don't affect your opponent?
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/SurferandChampion.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/SurferandChampion2.jpg
These are the last two pages from the fight. I was too lazy to scan the rest.
Originally posted by Soleran
Juggernaut has been stopped by war hulk and thrown for that matter as well. Need proof just go back a page and click on a link I produced for you. Champion has the power Primordal which is as powerful or greater then cosmic power, he is immortal and cursed by death as well so he cannot die.Juggernaut isn't immortal he will die eventually, Champion will get the win and in the mean time use Juggernaut as a punching bag. Lets face it Juggernaut may have a shield but he RARELY ever used it and I doubt he would often with Champion either.....................and even if he did it just stops the attacks so Champ rests or lifts the ground from under Juggernau and still throws him lol🙂
Champion >>>>>>>>Juggernaut.
I've never understood where anyone got the idea that Hulk's power had anything to do with War stopping Juggernaut. Read the next panel after Juggernaut says "Impossible!!!". Apocolypse, who engineered this battle, himself states that it is a test of Celestial might.
Let me quote: "As I thought. The power of the Celestials...supercedes all but my own. The Day of Judgement is approaching, and the global upheaval from which a new era will emerge is upon us. Of all the X-Men's non-mutant foes, Juggernaut seemed most puissant [powerful]. He seemed a valuable test of Celestial might."
Celestial might versus an elder...only combined do the Infinity gems trump the Celestials. Individually? Well the Thanos Quest showed that their owners are hardly omnipotent.
Hulk tosses Juggernaut into a mountain? Cain isn't stopped until Prof X shows up.
Hulk gets beat into unconsciousness? Uh, 'nuff said.
Hulk suck punches Juggernaut? Cain falls to his knees but still isn't out until a psychic backlash from Hulk breaking Mentallo's control renders him and the Avengers unconscious.
Even the unwritten story in West Coast Avengers had Hulk needing the help of Stevie (who possessed the RoC at the time) to stop the Juggernaut.
War is a fraud and anyone who believes otherwise is illiterate.
