Point it out so I can fix it
See I can prove the things I say, you however haven't given us proof on anything that you've stated.
No hard feelings, I'm sure than in another debate you would do fine, but in this one you have done nothing to convince me that Champion can defeat Juggernaut. Just no proof, or anything for that matter.
You posted proof by attempting to mock a defeat at the hands of Thanos! Now make a thread about Juggs and Thanos and see what happens!
Champion has a small handful of showings same as Runner and several others. However their powers are beyond that of Juggernaut.
I never said Champion would kill him, nope just beat him for the rest of the time they are together.
Now seriously within reason how do you think a guy with say 45 years of experience would fair against someone who has 2.5 Billion years of experience! For the most part same powerset and the guy with 2.5 billion also has enhanced speed to go with is and master of h2h through those years?
Doesn't matter when the lesser experienced one never tires, is unstoppable with forward momentum and doesn't feel pain. Juggernaut can charge champion, and beat him while he pushes him through all nearby objects.
If things punches have the ability to (not saying that thing is weak or champion was fighting to full potential) than the juggernauts which are far greater than the things will be able to break champions bones.
So now your saying that the only proof that I've given you is that Thanos fight? I pray not, for that would be a lie.
There is a Thanos vs Juggernaut thread. I said that Juggernaut would lose, but he would never been damaged. You see Thanos wouldn't fight Juggernaut physically he would use his mind, and outsmart Juggernaut. he wouldn't knock him around like he did Champion.
I know you haven't said that Champion would kill Juggernaut, you just never gave a valid way of Juggernaut being defeated.
Why does it matter how much experience Juggernaut has if he doesn't even feel pain? He doesn't need to have fighting experience to defeat Champion in a fight, all he has to do is do what he does when he's not jobbing. Be unstoppable.
Now if you can give me scans to back up what you stated Champion would do, then I may agree with you. Up to this point though you haven't given enough proof of what Champion can do to persuade me or 75% of the other posters in this thread otherwise.
Champion didn't use the power primordal and only used earth h2h abilities.
Champion won't kill his opponents either................he does it for the thrill of the fight and honor.
With power primordal I fail to see how Juggs forward momentum will garner much of anything.......................its an ability and not a very good one for combat.
The poll says otherwise at this point souja. Later.
Champion withstood the planet blowing up on him and reentry into an atmosphere...................Juggs doesn't produce that much hurt...........................................anyway have fun with juggs, he isn't ready for an Elder.
See there you go running away instead of staying here, and giving proof of your claims. Thats why not many people agree with you, because you state things yet you cant back them up.
Look at most of the polls Wolverines in, he's winning most of them but that doesn't mean he'd win in the debates. Sorry but In this forum debates matter.
Originally posted by Soleran
Now seriously within reason how do you think a guy with say 45 years of experience would fair against someone who has 2.5 Billion years of experience! For the most part same powerset and the guy with 2.5 billion also has enhanced speed to go with is and master of h2h through those years?
Now seriously within reason how do you think a guy with say 45 years of experience would fair against someone who has 2.5 Billion years of experience! For the most part same powerset and the guy with 2.5 billion also has enhanced speed to go with is and master of h2h through those years?
Did I say Juggernaut was going to get hurt?
Nope I said he was going to be a punching bag, big difference. Now seriously answer my question.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Juggernaut wont move when Champion punches him, he will just walk right through Champions attacks.What did his experience do against Thing, besides get him his ribs broken?
Sentry has little experience, but does that mean he couldn't defeat Namor in a fight?
First off I have shown time and again in previous posts Juggernaut does get knocked down and round regardless of this once he moves he won't stop piece so what he has been dropped to his knees before and thrown. I can tell you right now if Juggernaut just decided to use his unstoppable force bit he would never win a fight either he would be to bust taking a stroll.
He played with the Thing with no power primordal, Thing was going to die if Champion didn't stop so he stopped because Champion doesn't kill.
Sentry's raw power is so far above Namor's its ridiculuos. Plus Sentry was in comics a long long time ago. In this matchup thats just not the case with durability however in strength and speed and skill Champion is leagues above him.
So realizing all this how do you expect 45 years to overcome a difference of 2,499,999,955 years of experience fighting?
You keep saying that Champion is stronger than Juggernaut, but you cant prove it.
You say Champion is faster than Juggernaut and I agree, but speed isn't going to matter in this fight. You saw what speed got Cannonball.
You haven't given any scans on what the power primordal does for him that he couldn't do when he was fighting Thing. So until then that fight stands.
He could have killed thing, but he also stated that Thing was giving him that fight that he always wanted. This means that he could feel Things punches.
Juggernaut hasn't been knocked around on any occasion to the point where he felt anything. Ya he got a cheap shot from Hulk, and thats about the only time he feel to his knees. Besides this is a fight without jobbing, so Juggernaut wont be knocked down.
Thor has way more experience than Juggernaut to, but he still stated that he couldn't beat the unbeatable.
Experience doesn't matter then man cant be moved if he wishes it not to be so why would he concern himself with how much Experience. Champion will find an opening due to his experience swing and the hit will do no damage. That is what his experience will do for him threw out the fight.
Ask him how much experience he has
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Experience doesn't matter then man cant be moved if he wishes it not to be so why would he concern himself with how much Experience. Champion will find an opening due to his experience swing and the hit will do no damage. That is what his experience will do for him threw out the fight.l]
yeah well 2,499,999,955 seems like a bit to overcome, you should think about that winning isn't about inflicting pain all the time but minimizing loss and using your enemies momentum against them and if I know then I feel fairly confident it would be in Champ's aresenal.
Juggernaut cannot be stopped its never been said he couldn't be moved, get it straight. Not to mention why punch him when throwing seems so much more effective really. 😱
Actually when his shield is up, and were assuming that he's using all his powers he cant be moved. I mean he cant be touched, moved, beat (Physically) when he doesn't choose to be.
The question shouldn't be how is Juggernaut going to overcome the experience difference, but how will Champion overcome Juggernauts durability.