Superboy Prime vs. Silver Surfer

Started by illadelph1224 pages

And I could have sworn on panel SBP was weakened by a red sun and wound up on the surface of Mogo surrounded by kryptonite.

That's how he was 'defeated'.

SuperEmoBoy Prime wins

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm not so sure about that.

That SBP arc has a lot of holes in it. It was shown that he was still weak to Kryptonite and Red Sun. Surfer doesn't have to drain SBP, all he has to do is alter the frequency of the energy already in SBP's body to a toxic wave length, and he can do that while he's intangible, so SBP's physical strength would be a non-issue.

Not saying it's foolproof, but it's probable. There wasn't a lot of brains and ingenuity displayed in the fights against SBP. I mean, come on, all those GLs and all their abilities, and all they can come up with is creating a giant green wall in space?

That's not a problem here on the forum.

Not true at all

SBP was shown on panel, and explained on panel twice by SBP and Earth2 supes, that kyrptonite does not effect them.

Red sun radiation does not effect SBP as well, not only explained in the pre-crisis tie in, but also stated by DC.

And last but not least, no the chunks of K-nite did not weaken him, he casually breeze through a 500 mile wall of K-nite, nor did the red sun radiation weaken him.

Want to know why I know this? (aside from it being explained and shown on panel twice, as well as being stated by DC themselves).

It is because when he flew through the red sun and he lost his suit, the other two supermen became powerless instanty, SBP on the other hand still had his powers, and used them untill they ran out.

SBP's cells were near empty when he returned from the 4 year speed dump, thus why he built the suit to feed him solar energy. But SBP was expending that energy almost as fast as he was gaining it while fighting, thus when he lost his suit, he had little to none left in his reserves

BW speaks the truth.

two words

power cosmic

SBP gets turned in to harmless gas

when surfer is writen how he should, he could do just that.

PreCrisisKryptonian . . . hard to fight that if you"re below skyfather

A weaker SBP ripped through this many GL's, with relative ease:

galan_superboy_prime ftw.

SBP takes this with a fair degree of ease.

However, I would like to point out something in regards to his "immunity" to K-nite in a fi8ght with SS. While it's true that the K-nite of the standard DC universe doesn't affect him, SS could still conceivably damage him with it as long as he used the frequency of the radiation that was present in SBP's universe. If Surfer used his Cosmic Awareness to pick up on SBP's weakness, he wouldn't detect a weakness to the frequency of radiation that is present in the standard DCU(which SBP is immune to), he'd pick up a weakness to the K-nite from SBP's own universe(which would work to full effect). What's more, SBP hasn't had the exposure to damaging effects of K-nite that standard Supes has, so he wouldn't have any of Supes acquired tolerance to it(so a single blast should leave SBP all but powerless). Now I for one don't think that Norrin could utilize his Awareness and PC before SBP started beating on him(which is why I give SBP 10/10), I'm just pointing out that in a situation where SS had enough time to do all of that and get off a blast, he should be able to take SBP down without to much difficulty.

Originally posted by darthgoober
SBP takes this with a fair degree of ease.

However, I would like to point out something in regards to his "immunity" to K-nite in a fi8ght with SS. While it's true that the K-nite of the standard DC universe doesn't affect him, SS could still conceivably damage him with it as long as he used the frequency of the radiation that was present in SBP's universe. If Surfer used his Cosmic Awareness to pick up on SBP's weakness, he wouldn't detect a weakness to the frequency of radiation that is present in the standard DCU(which SBP is immune to), he'd pick up a weakness to the K-nite from SBP's own universe(which would work to full effect). What's more, SBP hasn't had the exposure to damaging effects of K-nite that standard Supes has, so he wouldn't have any of Supes acquired tolerance to it(so a single blast should leave SBP all but powerless). Now I for one don't think that Norrin could utilize his Awareness and PC before SBP started beating on him(which is why I give SBP 10/10), I'm just pointing out that in a situation where SS had enough time to do all of that and get off a blast, he should be able to take SBP down without to much difficulty.

When has superman or any superman character ever went down instantly from K-nite in the last 20 years? I thought it was like poisoning that takes time and weakens them over time.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When has superman or any superman character ever went down instantly from K-nite in the last 20 years? I thought it was like poisoning that takes time and weakens them over time.

The example wouldn't have to be from the last 20 years, because if SBP is a Pre Crisis Kryptonian, then he'd have a PC's resistance to K-nite as well. For the most part K-nite was pretty hard to deal with for PC Supes and company, and I don't know if he was ever attacked with an ultra concentrated dose like Norrin should be capable of producing.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The example wouldn't have to be from the last 20 years, because if SBP is a Pre Crisis Kryptonian, then he'd have a PC's resistance to K-nite as well. For the most part K-nite was pretty hard to deal with for PC Supes and company, and I don't know if he was ever attacked with an ultra concentrated dose like Norrin should be capable of producing.

I don't think norrin can produce it. IT specifically has to come from the home world where the kryptonian is from. At least for SBP. Reproducing a faximili even of the same wavelength isn't that kryptonite from that universe with that universes signature on it as well. I dont think it's possible.

anythings possible with the power cosmic

its like this how do u get water out of a stone. it seems impossible. but with the might of the power cosmic anythings possible.

Originally posted by lionking
anythings possible with the power cosmic

Even losing . . .

Originally posted by lionking
its like this how do u get water out of a stone. it seems impossible. but with the might of the power cosmic anythings possible.

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Originally posted by lionking
you just know i am write

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_005_21.jpg

Impressive. Have you ever seen SilverAgeSuperman?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't think norrin can produce it. IT specifically has to come from the home world where the kryptonian is from. At least for SBP. Reproducing a faximili even of the same wavelength isn't that kryptonite from that universe with that universes signature on it as well. I dont think it's possible.

The differences between the universe's are in each universe's vibrational frequencies(which is why they're able to overlap without interacting), so he should still be able to create a form of K-nite set to the proper frequency to take out SBP. There's a chance it wouldn't work, but logic certainly seems to suggest that it SHOULD be possible for someone like SS(unfortunately we'll likely never know for sure since they're in different companies).

He does that saying how it would be easy to defeat him with a single burst of radiation. It wasn't showed how the Surfer discovered Gladiator weakness

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer5-18a.jpg

he could turn his insides in to k nite

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_061_21.jpg

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