Its not fair

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Wikipedia isnt completely accurate. The movie is higher canon and in the movie we do see Dooku being pushed back. But this isnt because the duo are more skilled it is because it is far harder to push two opponents back than for two people to push their opponent back. We also see Dooku dispose of Kenobi with minimal effort. While he was fighting Anakin he doesnt seem that concerned. He is confident enough to provoke Anakin. Not until just before his arms get chopped off do we see any fear or doubt on the Count. And he did think that Sids would step in if need be so there was no need for him to go all out - or so he thought.

I mostly concur with this, and I know that Wiki isn't vary accurate considering that it can be edited by anyway and as a result is subject to ones opinion more than facts. But we Don't really know for sure how much effort Dooku put into the fight. It seems as if Dooku seemed to be almost playing with them both. But that might just be the image created by Dooku's elegant and suave fighting style. Although of course if anyone has read the Rots novel feel free to put some input in.

Ya can't prove anything with wikipedia!

Not entirely true. Alot of the stuff on their is actually based on real facts. The only reason you cant "trust anything on Wikipedia" is because its "non-cannon". WHich is bull. The whole cannon system is screwed up IMO.

Originally posted by KMC Dark Lord
Although of course if anyone has read the Rots novel feel free to put some input in.

The novel gives the same acount.

The Wiki point of view is based OFF OF the NOVEL.

See:

It is not an exaggeration to say that this duel is the longest duel in the novelization, at least how long it is described. During the duel, Dooku also smashes chairs and particles to the Jedi, which is left out from the movie. In the movie, this duel is relatively short, especially after Obi-Wan Kenobi was knocked to the floor.

Before the duel itself, there is a short conversation between Palpatine and Dooku, revealing the plan Palpatine used to lure Dooku into a confrontation with his new candidate for apprenticeship. This was the first scene ever in novelizations to confirm Darth Sidious and Palpatine are one and the same.

After Dooku is disarmed and Palpatine urges Anakin to kill him, it becomes obvious for Dooku that he had been used as a pawn and a decoy, who never possessed the true powers of a Sith. His last thought was "Treachery is the way of the Sith".

That doesn't prove that its differant though.

"At the beginning he was winning somewhat easily, however, he did not realize that the fundamental and weak lightsaber forms Kenobi and Skywalker were using were a ruse; they had recently become masters of Soresu (Kenobi), and Djem So (Skywalker). Though able to block against the saber strikes of the two Jedi, he was forced onto the defensive. He Force pushed Kenobi out of the way but was pursued by Skywalker, who brutally hammered at the Sith. As Obi-Wan rejoined the fight Dooku realized that his opponents were more dangerous than he could have thought possible. Tyranus kicked Skywalker against a wall and locked Obi-Wan in a Force grip before hurling him across the room, leaving him unconscious. But then Skywalker barreled at him and Dooku found himself fighting for his life. Not only had Anakin mastered Djem So, an extremely powerful saber style, but his connection to the Force had greatly intensified since his last duel with the Dark Lord. In the end Anakin repaid the Count for his humiliating defeat on Geonosis by cutting off not one, but both, of Dooku's hands. "

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'---------THAT is almost verbatim what the book says.

I read it, I'm telling ya.

That is also what GL says.

Anakin IS more powerfull than Dooku, he defeated him in a one on one fight.

And none of that "Dooku wasn't fighting his hardest" bullshit.

Even if that were so, he would turn it on when he realized that Anakin's attacks were coming much stronger.......IF he was as great and powerfull as Ox assumes.

He wouldn't be caught off guard by some whelp who was pissed, were he stronger with the force and a better duelist.

However, were he just a pawn of Sid's to engineer the Clone Wars and make Anakin mad, then......

You have exactly what happend.

Anakin PWNS.

do you haver reading comprehension problems? By postign that wiki stuff i was frigan PROVING THAT ANAKIN PWND HIM! AND THAT DOOKU WAS GOIGN HIS HARDEST!!

jesus...

Originally posted by KMC Dark Lord
do you haver reading comprehension problems? By postign that wiki stuff i was frigan PROVING THAT ANAKIN PWND HIM! AND THAT DOOKU WAS GOIGN HIS HARDEST!!

jesus...

Originally posted by sithsaber408
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'---------THAT is almost verbatim what the book says.

I read it, I'm telling ya.

That is also what GL says.

Anakin IS more powerfull than Dooku, he defeated him in a one on one fight.

And none of that "Dooku wasn't fighting his hardest" bullshit.

Even if that were so, he would turn it on when he realized that Anakin's attacks were coming much stronger.......IF he was as great and powerfull as Ox assumes.

He wouldn't be caught off guard by some whelp who was pissed, were he stronger with the force and a better duelist.

However, were he just a pawn of Sid's to engineer the Clone Wars and make Anakin mad, then......

Anakin PWNS. [/B]

Anakin didnt exactly win in a one on one fight when Kenobi was there as well. Dooku took them both on and managed to wtf pwn Obi-Wan, the so called master of Soresu, while fighting the so called 'chosen one'. It was Dookus task to anger Skywalker, and that is what he did. He was never meant to kill him. At the end of the fight when Dooku was getting pummeled he realised to late that angering him was a bad idea, but by that time it was no good. He was defeated. However earlier in the duel had Dooku wanted to kill Anakin it would have been only too easy. Dooku being a pwn is true to an extent. He did his job perfectly and would have stayed on as Sids apprentice had he beaten Anakin. However he was led to beleive that Anakin was to be kept alive and that is how he met his doom

Originally posted by KMC Dark Lord
do you haver reading comprehension problems? By postign that wiki stuff i was frigan PROVING THAT ANAKIN PWND HIM! AND THAT DOOKU WAS GOIGN HIS HARDEST!!

jesus...

Wasn't arguing with YOU mate, but with Rampant Ox.

I responded to your first post:

Originally posted by Blaxican Style
Although of course if anyone has read the Rots novel feel free to put some input in.

by saying that:

"The novel gives the same acount.

The Wiki point of view is based OFF OF the NOVEL."

and then posting the Wiki's thoughts on the novel.

My next post was just re-stating what was in the novel.

Me: nice and forgiving .

You: sorry about that and

Originally posted by Tangible God
Jesus Christ, do you live in a third world country where decent spelling is a luxury?

Yes I do. i live in Europe.

Originally posted by sithsaber408

Before the duel itself, there is a short conversation between Palpatine and Dooku, revealing the plan Palpatine used to lure Dooku into a confrontation with his new candidate for apprenticeship. This was the first scene ever in novelizations to confirm Darth Sidious and Palpatine are one and the same.

Yes, another reason I hated that book! Ya never give away the plot in the opening scenes! That author stank.

Originally posted by General G
The Jedi ruled for a millenia, the Sith ruled for 23 years or something like that. Does anyone else find this upsetting or annoying? I really liked the Sith and with people like Vader and Sidious, they should have ruled longer, any thoughts?

Originally posted by Darth Stephen
Coz u like my cock lol
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Originally posted by Rampant ox
I must say I adore the sith but I do hate Vader and Sidious. I agree with your comments about THEM but the comment about Dooku. Thats pretty nasty. You should remember that Dooku himself was once I highly ranked and much respected member of the jedi order. Shouldnt have some credit for that? Then add in the fact he is a powerful sith lord which makes him by far my fav character!!!

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Personally, I think Sidious deserved to be defeated. Dont get me wrong I love the sith but since Sids gave the order to kill Count Dooku I lost all my respect for him. I think that it would have been a mucher better and longer lasting empire with Dooku second (or even first) in command.

I know what you mean. I loved Count Dooku but I guess it did make sense. Sidious needed someone younger to follow in his foot steps and so Dooku (who was older) couldn't have stayed.