Firstly I am not basing who created what on their stats in their respective versus but if they were to meant, they would battle base on what they have, the goblins strength and weapons would be too much. Basing Jokers past with the justice league is moot especially as it seems he can't handle Jason Todd.
Originally posted by Mider
osbourn smarter then joker i think not if this guy is so smart why is he nothing more then a street leveler can he even go beyond that joker has taken on even the likes of the JLA and given them a womping can goblin do that?
Yes, with prep. If Joker did it then Norman could.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
GG could never get close enough to Joker. No one can without getting badly cut, burn, shocked, trap, gas...etc...whoever tries to grab Joker is asking for a death wish.
Considering Goblin is faster and way more durable then a human and would only need one punch to knock the Jokers head off his shoulders or cave his chest in he wouldn't even need to grab him.
GG wins, this damn batman and batman rogue favoritism is getting on my nerves
1) GG's not gonna shake his hand to get electrocuted
2) GG's skin is semi-bulletproof and had only been hurt by .45 calibur gun before. Not only that, his recent costume is also armored and bulletproof.
3) Joker doesn't have prep and only has his default equipment.
4) Squirting something at him and affecting him with gas is kinda hard to pull off against a guy who likes to hover 3 stories above you and bomb you pumpkin bombs.
5) h2h with him with joker stats is downright suicide especially if he's not tangling with a hero.
6) The JLA vs. him is utter PIS. Flash getting caught by Joker, then MM, etc.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Considering most of you already quoted me for picking Joker. I'll asked this question.....If you allowed Green Goblin to use his flying glider then would you allow Joker to use ALL his weapons? Yes or No?
i asked that in the beginning of this thread to make some sort of sense because we all know Joker is just not for no-prep situations. Perhaps if they had prep time, Joker's chances would probably be noteworthy enough to make this a fight.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Considering most of you already quoted me for picking Joker. I'll asked this question.....If you allowed Green Goblin to use his flying glider then would you allow Joker to use ALL his weapons? Yes or No?
No , because the glider is a common weapon in Goblins arsenal , shit like the 'Giant Lana luthor doll' aren't a common weapon . Joker gets whomped , he's ether blown away by Goblins explosives or killed by Osbourne's superior psychical stats....
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
GG wins, this damn batman and batman rogue favoritism is getting on my nerves
Really? funny, because all this Marvel Comics Characters Overpowering anyone gets on my nerves as well. I guess that makes it even.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
1) GG's not gonna shake his hand to get electrocuted
2) GG's skin is semi-bulletproof and had only been hurt by .45 calibur gun before. Not only that, his recent costume is also armored and bulletproof.
3) Joker doesn't have prep and only has his default equipment.
4) Squirting something at him and affecting him with gas is kinda hard to pull off against a guy who likes to hover 3 stories above you and bomb you pumpkin bombs.
5) h2h with him with joker stats is downright suicide especially if he's not tangling with a hero.
6) The JLA vs. him is utter PIS. Flash getting caught by Joker, then MM, etc.
1.You don't have to shake the hand of Joker to get electrocuted. He uses other gadges.
2. Is it gas proof? No I don't think so. One sniff of Joker's laughing gas should make Osborne laugh himself to death.
3. Unfair! If you allow for GG to have his flying thing then this is an UNBALANCE fight. No point in going on.
4. Again, if GG grabs Joker then don't expect GG to live for long. It's downright suicide to put your hands on Joker. He's too unpredictable.
5. stats? They aren't 100% valuable when determining a fight. Example you can have Blob vs Daredevil. Blob is far more stronger than DD. Doest that mean DD loses on the spot?
6. That's your opinion.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Really? funny, because all this Marvel Comics characters Superpowers gets on mine as well. I guess that makes it even.
It's not favoritism when you vote someone who seemingly has every advantage in a fight. If say this is superman vs. GG, and people vote GG, then you probably be justified in feeling that way. Anyway, if that's your opinion...
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
1.You don't have to shake the hand of Joker to get electrocuted. He uses other gadges.
And you know of course just how durable norman is or how far away he is normally with his standard equipment which is his glider.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
2. Is it gas proof? No I don't think so. One sniff of Joker's laughing gas should make Osborne laugh himself to death.
He has some degree of resistance to it and also uses it for his offensive. Why would he come down to the ground to sniff whatever Joker tries to gas him with anyway, not if he could just bomb his ass with punkin bombs, homing rockets, glider machine guns, etc.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
3. Unfair! If you allow for GG to have his flying thing then this is an UNBALANCE fight. No point in going on.
Because it's his standard equipment which is based on the default rules.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
4. Again, if GG grabs Joker then don't expect GG to live for long. It's downright suicide to put your hands on Joker. He's too unpredictable.
Well he might be, the real question though, why would GG come anywhere near him if he has the range advantage. And GG's isn't that predictable that close either and there's no guarantee to the effect of Joker's equipment on him considering he's not a normal human.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
5. stats? They aren't 100% valuable when determining a fight. Example you can have Blob vs Daredevil. Blob is far more stronger than DD. Doest that mean DD loses on the spot?
DD loses on the spot unless PIS or some plot device is allowed. Only conceivable win i could figure out without factoring those two would be if 1) he could somehow incapacitate him 2) if some specific parts are vulnerable (eyes, ears, insides, etc.) and exploit them with his weapons. But the probability i would probably give might only be 1/10 or less.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
6. That's your opinion.
Well to each to his own but i'd reckon only those who rather prefer JLA members downplayed would accept that.
1.You don't have to shake the hand of Joker to get electrocuted. He uses other gadges.
Name them because if their not common then their out of bounds
2. Is it gas proof? No I don't think so. One sniff of Joker's laughing gas should make Osborne laugh himself to death.
Perhaps ? But then he should still be able to take out Joker before the gas finishes him off
3. Unfair! If you allow for GG to have his flying thing then this is an UNBALANCE fight. No point in going on
No it isn't , if Joker has all these 'Advantages' that you say he has then he should be more then capable of taking down GG
4. Again, if GG grabs Joker then don't expect GG to live for long. It's downright suicide to put your hands on Joker. He's too unpredictable.
No it's suicide for the joker , someone who's 'Unpredictable' is nothing against a serious minded individual who wont piss around. Osbourne crushes Jokers head like a grape
5. stats? They aren't 100% valuable when determining a fight. Example you can have Blob vs Daredevil. Blob is far more stronger than DD. Doest that mean DD loses on the spot?
No because DD has better agility which makes up for the lack of strength but you haven't taken everything about the characters in point. GG outclasses joker in ALL area's
6. That's your opinion.
No it's common sense