ROTS Sidious and Vader versus Kit Fisto and Mace Windu

Setting: Dantooine Jedi academy council chamber.

OT Vader, ROTS Vader...?

Either way I say the Sith win.

The Sith, easily. Vader beats Kit pretty easily and then he and Sidious together pwn Mace.

Sidious can take out Kit instantly and the duo pwns Mace.

Looks pretty much like it. Mace is maybe on par with Sidious, so Mace won't finish his fight before Fisto is defeated by Vader.

On par with Sidious? Unlikely. He's better with a saber and worse with the force.

Sidious took 'em both on at the same time, and Fisto was dead in 10 seconds. Exact same thing could happen this time, but Vader steps in and pwns Mace alongside Palpatine.

You people seriously need to read the Cestus Deception. I'd argue that Kit could occupy Anakin long enough for Mace to tool Palpatine again, and then ''teh chozen 1'' gets pwned hardcore.

Sidious did manage to keep up with both of 'em and kill one of 'em in the span of 5 seconds. He can just do the same thing he did in ROTS.

Assuming he fights Kit yes, but what if he's fighting Windu while Kit holds off Anakin?

I have to say, Palpatine's duel was ridiculously botched and condensed. You take a Jedi who could stand toe-to-toe with the likes of Obi-Wan and Anakin, and then have him get owned like a fish out of water by some old goon, and I officially declare you queer. ''You'' being Nick Gillard, who needs to be put down.

He was fighting both Mace and Kit during those 5 seconds. Vader doesn't even have to do anything until Kit dies.

EDIT: Hm, Kit did have space after Kolar and Tiin were dispatched. He had more than a few meters to his left yet he just died

Anyways, wasn't Palpatine faking with the lightning? Mace could beat him in a pure saber fight, but his force powers are insane.

Read the above, and read CD. I suppose Fisto can't even leap away anymore. . .

He wasn't really fighting Mace, watch the scene again. He maybe got 1-2 shots in, but he was tryng to dispose of the other 3.

Yeah, but Mace couldn't beat him until 3 minutes later.

Right but you have to take into account that it was a 3 on 1 and Sidious made it difficult because they were all so close to each other. Not to mention I believe Vaapad requires space.

This is OT Vader, btw.

Meh, Vader just needs to hang in there. I hold that he could defeat Fisto...

It might be hard in a sabre fight, but can Fisto resist Vader's force choke? He putting out 80% of OT Palpatine right there.

Which is a useless figure.

Not entirely useless. It's hard what to make of it, but I think it was issued so that fans know Vader was getting kinda close to Sidious by ROTJ.
But Palpatine was more powerful. One of the earlier theories was that Vader was always more powerful than Palpatine, but Palpatine had a "mental" domination upon him. This was of course, disproved by GL's comments.