ROTS Sidious and Vader versus Kit Fisto and Mace Windu

Started by Faunus3 pages

Which vary tremendously, from placing Anakin's power at 160% of Sidious's, to ten times that of the said Sith Lord.

Vader's Force Choke is now 80% of Sidious? So that's be nothing, right? Cuz Sidious never force choked anyone.

Eh? When were those issued?

Vader's Force Choke is now 80% of Sidious? So that's be nothing, right? Cuz Sidious never force choked anyone.

Didn't he force choke a few Jedi in DE? Not sure...

He duz in BF2, n00b!

I was being ridiculous. And really, now... does OT Vader force choke a jedi on par with AOTC Obi-Wan?

Probably surpassing AotC Obi-Wan.

Yeah, Fisto was better than him by the end of LoE.

You mean CD?

Not that I know of, but there weren't any to choke.

Future Darth Vader novels should shed more light on his powers compared to real Jedi. The one we have has him getting used to his suit (and even then he's holding his own against Knights) and Purge has him keep up with a bunch of Masters... But that's really all we have.

Although many of you have already mentioned it, you must remember how confined Kit was when he and Mace were dueling Sidious. If you watch the scene carefully, Kit somehow manages to slide himself between Mace and Sidious in order to deliver what he thought would be the finishing blow. Now, due to the lack of more space, Kit had less time to react to Sidious's moves let alone plan his own attacks. If he had more space in order to display the fact that he is unlimited by vertebrae restrictions, I assume he would've lasted much longer.
I believe Mace alone could fend off Sidious long enough for Kit to finish Vader. I believe Mace and Kit alone would be more than a match for Sidious, in a less confined area that is. Considering, also, the fact that Kit would have been more prepared to fight Sids after dueling Vader and thus would know what to expect (whereas in ROTS he obviously didn't).

GL already said that OT Vader was pretty washed up compared to PT Jedi.

Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
Not that I know of, but there weren't any to choke.

Future Darth Vader novels should shed more light on his powers compared to real Jedi. The one we have has him getting used to his suit (and even then he's holding his own against Knights) and Purge has him keep up with a bunch of Masters... But that's really all we have.

I will never understand peoples facination with Vader.

I will never understand peoples facination with Vader.

Was that directed to me...?

GL already said that OT Vader was pretty washed up compared to PT Jedi.

That's another thing. I'm not sure Vader was intended to be a combat God. I mean sure he's cool, but if he continues the way the writers want him to go, it won't be long before Vader >>>> Yoda. And I don't agree with that.

Writers want to hype him up because he's Vader. I think it's a bit ridiculous.

Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
[b]I will never understand peoples facination with Vader.

Was that directed to me...? [/B]

No just the forum in general.

Originally posted by Faunus
You people seriously need to read the Cestus Deception. I'd argue that Kit could occupy Anakin long enough for Mace to tool Palpatine again, and then ''teh chozen 1'' gets pwned hardcore.

Sidious took out Kit while fending off Mace. So all Vader has to do is wait till Kit dies and the Mace gets pwnd.

This is OT Vader, btw.

Oh... whatever, Sidious still beats Kit and Sidious and Vader together still pwn Mace.

Hummm.... Kit would get owned by Palpatine very VERY fast and if Vader can fend off Mace for more then 5-10 seconds then he and Palps would beat Windu eventually.

Although as it has been said, Palpatine fought Mace and Kit at the same time and pwned Kit...

Either way, Palpatine and Vader win..

The Forum Sez:

Vader is the bondage God. All that black leather, the samurai/penis cap and the air pilot mask.... uber secksy.

Omfg teh bondej!

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Sith, easy.

By the way, Saying that Windu beat Sidious is like saying that Anakin beat Dooku. It's not that simple. In both fights it is skeptical as to weather they were faking (correct?), the Sith had other Jedi to deal with also (correct?), they didn't use their force powers, which probably would have won them the fight fast (correct?), and they were both over confident (correct?). Sidious would beat Windu in a fight, he is simply far too superior in knowledge and application of force attacks to be beaten by Mace.
Not that he would need to, but Vader could beat Kit. He would probably just hold him off and wait for Sidious to zap him in the back though.