Anakin was already better then most everyone on the Jedi council as of ROTS, except for Mace and Yoda (Yes he was better then Obi-Wan).
Depa was a master swordsman(women?) and extremely proficient with Vaapad. As well as a High General in the early Clone Wars and a member of the Jedi council.
She was good, but people around here vastly underestimate Anakin I think. Anakin has become the "Superman of the SW vs. Forums" in that people vastly underrate just how powerful and skilled Anakin actually is/ was in LoE and ROTSish time-frames. For some reason people seem to forget LoE etc. where Anakin is shown to be vastly superior to Obi-Wan (and others) and even Obi-Wan knows it. People are constantly saying how powerful Anakin is, even Dooku was impressed in LoE with Anakin's vast increase in power.
The only people I would say that there is No Way Anakin could beat is Yoda, Sidious, and MAYBE Mace (And since Mace, then Dooku seeing as there about even, but Anakin beat Dooku..so..)
Although Mace would win 7/10 times. I'd say Anakin is skilled enough to put up a damn good fight against Windu, a damn good fight indeed. Windu would be "shittin' bricks" after he fought Anakin.
So I dont think Depa could win this. Anakin wouldn't pwn her or anything, Depa's Vaapad assures that, but she wouldn't win.
I pretty much agree with everything you said apart from the points about Dooku and Mace Windu. Dooku was trying to convert him and was toying with him, and Anakin got lucky and his sudden burst of rage surprised and overcame Dooku. Dooku would win any other time. And Mace would own him just like Dooku each time. Was Anakin even a master of his form?
Originally posted by MEDVOCK
I say Depa. Not only had she mastered form VII, but also Vaapad. And apparently, Vaapad is able to take the powers of the opponent and reflect it back at them. Thus, all she's have to do is use Anakin's own anger against him (which he would have a lot of), reflecting it as her own power.
Isn't Form VII Vaapad?
Originally posted by darthsith19
Anakin wins. Despite what Mace says about Depa being stronger than he is, he did beat her even when he was recovering from broken ribs and a thousand other wounds and he wasn't even trying to fight. With Anakin Mace'd at least have to try.
What the hell? In my book, Mace got tooled by Depa in their duel, and when Depa realized what she had done, she tried to commit suicide but Nick shot her saber from her hand.
Anakin was already better then most everyone on the Jedi council as of ROTS, except for Mace and Yoda (Yes he was better then Obi-Wan).
No, Kenobi was the greater duelist in the end, Anomaly.
He managed to be on par with Anakin the entire duel and finally outclassed him in the end.
I continously remember who walked away from the fight with their limbs and I know whom the better duelist is.
Depa was a master swordsman(women?) and extremely proficient with Vaapad. As well as a High General in the early Clone Wars and a member of the Jedi council.
Yes.
She was good, but people around here vastly underestimate Anakin I think. Anakin has become the "Superman of the SW vs. Forums" in that people vastly underrate just how powerful and skilled Anakin actually is/ was in LoE and ROTSish time-frames. For some reason people seem to forget LoE etc. where Anakin is shown to be vastly superior to Obi-Wan (and others) and even Obi-Wan knows it. People are constantly saying how powerful Anakin is, even Dooku was impressed in LoE with Anakin's vast increase in power.
This is true. Alot of people do underestimate Anakin's power and his skills.
The only people I would say that there is No Way Anakin could beat is Yoda, Sidious, and MAYBE Mace (And since Mace, then Dooku seeing as there about even, but Anakin beat Dooku..so..)
Anakin beat Dooku kind of unfairfully, you must remember.
Although Mace would win 7/10 times. I'd say Anakin is skilled enough to put up a damn good fight against Windu, a damn good fight indeed. Windu would be "shittin' bricks" after he fought Anakin.
Yeah, I could see Anakin possibly defeating Mace.
So I dont think Depa could win this. Anakin wouldn't pwn her or anything, Depa's Vaapad assures that, but she wouldn't win.
Yeah, I agree with most of what you said.
Originally posted by Antediluvian
Anakin beat Dooku kind of unfairfully, you must remember.
No he didnt, Dooku lost fair and square. Lucas says it in the DVD commentary. MAYBE Dooku underestimated Anakin and it cost him, but Dooku lost for no other reason then that he just lost. GL stated it.
Originally posted by Antediluvian
No, Kenobi was the greater duelist in the end, Anomaly.He managed to be on par with Anakin the entire duel and finally outclassed him in the end.
I continously remember who walked away from the fight with their limbs and I know whom the better duelist is.
No, Anakin was the better duelist. There are SO many factors that come into play on the mustafar duel that its difficult to know where to begin.
One of the main points was Anakin's "hotheadedness" Anakin was just too pissed off, where as Obi-Wan, being the chillin Jedi that he is, was more level headed then Anakin. If you watch the fight Anakin is tooling Obi-wan more often the Obi-Wan is tooling Anakin.
There is also the fact that Obi knows EXACTLY how Anakin fights, he knows everything about Anakin, he did after all essentially raise him. And while Anakin would have known a great deal about Obi-Wan, Anakin didn't train Obi-Wan and teach him everything he knows.
Plus, Anakin's internal conflict would have been immense. After what happened with Padme, and now he's gotta fight the man who was pretty much his father and best friend.
Then, in the end, Anakin lost because of the SAME reason as ALL the Sith Lords in the movies lose, because of arrogance. Its a common theme in the SW movies for the Sith to lose because of their arrogance. Maul beat Obi but then proceeded to play around and mock him when he could have just killed him, and it cost him his life. Dooku wasn't expecting Anakin to be as good as he actually was, and got pwned. Sidious was the most arrogant of them all and thought he was infallible and that he knew everything, he got pwned because of it. Vader got chopped in to pieces because he thought he was top shit and could do anything and got owned.
If Anakin had fought Obi in the beginning of the movie, Anakin would have beaten him.
Originally posted by Antediluvian
Yeah, I could see Anakin possibly defeating Mace.
Um, what the hell is this? Mace's superiority should be painfully obvious, but a quick, movie point: Yoda didn't think that Obi-Wan could successfully challenge - let alone defeat - the newly elected and coronated Emperor. Mace utterly tooled said emperor. What do you draw from this? At the least, Mace would thrash Kenobi, and the result would be Mace WTFpwning Anakin, who by your own opinion is Obi-Wan's lesser.