^ that's my point.....
one cannot merely state, "god is intelligence".......because god has already been given several universal charicteristics by many cultures over the past few millenia. The term already has a definition so it can't be applied to anything beyond it's existing parameters.........which is why I simply said, "intelligence".......
Originally posted by Evil Deadintelligence is a good word but it makes me feel like something's better and all powerful and something I should be thankful for. That I just don't like. The sun being god makes more sense to me.
^ that's my point.....one cannot merely state, "god is intelligence".......because god has already been given several universal charicteristics by many cultures over the past few millenia. The term already has a definition so it can't be applied to anything beyond it's existing parameters.........which is why I simply said, "intelligence".......
why pick the sun? one star out of an infinite number.......which obviously had no part in lending to the physical laws that place it in the exact spot to allow the earth to recieve it's energy.....nor the placement of the earth to allow it to recieve the sun's energy? Isn't that like climbing 1 meter of mount everest and declaring it the peak.......or climbing 1 rung on an infinite ladder and declaring yourself on top?
intelligence is a good word but it makes me feel like something's better and all powerful and something I should be thankful for.
but you yourself have intelligence. We humans understand the way cycles interact to compliment each other allowing for our existence......which means if capable of doing so, we ourselves would be perfectly capable of re-creating the exact same conditions. Why better?
Originally posted by Evil DeadThe sun gives us light, energy and life. The sun was the first thing in our solar system and what caused Earth to become what it is. Yes, there are millions of stars, but no, we came to the sun. The sun won, and gave us life. The sun, is the cause of it. Not only that, but the druids believed the sun to be god aswell.
why pick the sun? one star out of an infinite number.......which obviously had no part in lending to the physical laws that place it in the exact spot to allow the earth to recieve it's energy.....nor the placement of the earth to allow it to recieve the sun's energy? Isn't that like climbing 1 meter of mount everest and declaring it the peak.......or climbing 1 rung on an infinite ladder and declaring yourself on top?
Originally posted by Evil DeadI think this becoming philosophy. 😂
but you yourself have intelligence. We humans understand the way cycles interact to compliment each other allowing for our existence......which means if capable of doing so, we ourselves would be perfectly capable of re-creating the exact same conditions. Why better?
Originally posted by Janus Marius
God gave us free will? What is free will? How is it that God can give us a mind that is "free" but we still fall to manipulation by other human beings? Why is it that God wants us all to be more like he is supposed to be - perfect, loving, compassionate, good, yet he deliberately doesn't make us that way?
* we still fall to manipulation by other humans? can you please explain this, bro... 😕
* God created us to be perfect, loving, compassionate and good...
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good . And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
Genesis 1:31
* okay? 😉
Originally posted by Janus Marius
And again, the Bible points to predestination several times. How can there be any freedom in a world where predestination occurs?
* yes, there is a predestination, like what happened to Saint Paul...
"But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb , and called me by his grace,"
Galatians 1:15
* so where's Saint Paul's freedom? he rejected God at first...
"For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it :"
Galatians 1:13
* as a Pharisee, Saul (Saint Paul) persecuted the Church of God, and even imprisoned innocent Church members... that's the freedom...
Originally posted by Alliance
Considering thats true....you seem to follow "his" word quite.....welll.....robotically?
Its as if you're saying...."god gave us free will to not be robots, but he really really likes us when we are robots, going around rectiting and doing exactly what "he" "said."
* God's words are not for Him... it's for us... for our own salvation...
"Take fast hold of instruction ; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life ."
Proverbs 4:13
* God's words are for our own benefit, not His... 😉
Originally posted by Evil DeadExactly.
but you yourself have intelligence. We humans understand the way cycles interact to compliment each other allowing for our existence......which means if capable of doing so, we ourselves would be perfectly capable of re-creating the exact same conditions. Why better?
Originally posted by debbiejoyes. We are gods.
Exactly.
I believe there is a creative process with intelligence to it that we are all part of. I think everything is connected as in a large type organism as Atlantis stated, or like I tried to put it. The analogy of us being a cell in the body of whatever is. A cell wouldn't know about all the other cells or their functions in the body, but they are creating what they were created for. The cell would not begin to comprehend what the body is at all. And us being part of the creative process can also create, and not just physically, I believe, which new science theories are discovering....We just don't understand it all yet.