Its not that Gambit can't hit him, but with the shield its not gonna be easy. Besides with that logic I'd argue that Cap can get more hits on Gambit than vice versa (because of the scope of his shield) and all it would really take is one well placed shield slash.
And I know Gambit's speed and agility are greater than normal but Cap has shown mad reflexes, nothing I've seen from Gambit indicates to me that his reflexes are superior to Cap
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Cap throws his shield and breaks Gambit's neck like a twig, or collapses his adam's apple, making applesauce. Cap wins this.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I doubt Gambit's number projectiles will help him win this fight. Cap's shield will absorb all of his explosions. How does Cap lose in close range combat though? Everyone here thinks Cap is some sort of idiot, he's a tactical genius. He's not gonna just throw his shield. He's gonna keep it to use it to protect himself, then he's gonna move in close and use his shield to attack. Gambit will be using his staff, but he'll have to use both hands so charging is out. So then it comes down to who'll win in a fight between Gambit and his staff vs Cap and his shield. Besides Cap being able to utilize his other hand, due to convenient leather straps, Cap's durabilty will be the deciding factor here.
Originally posted by marvelprince
And I know Gambit's speed and agility are greater than normal but Cap has shown mad reflexes, nothing I've seen from Gambit indicates to me that his reflexes are superior to Cap
The problem is, this isn't just Captain America vs Gambit. Captain has to keep his sheild to help against the X-Mansion defenses. The sheild also only cover a limited area. You all are acting as though Captain America's shield gives him invunerability. He can't block conitous area of effect attacks which is what Gambit will be using. Captain will be limited to defense in this battle while Gambit will be able to fight to his normal, offensive capabilities. In this battle Gambit has the advantage.
Gambit is being attacked as well, dude...
Originally posted by The_Olympian
Gambit is being attacked as well, dude...
Gambit can still attack (cards/missiles) without compromising his defensive capabilities. Captain would have to loose his shield to even be able to mount any offense against Gambit. Loosing the shield means he will get hit by Gambit or the defense systems.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
gambit.
I am going to put this thread to rest by saying anyone who actually reads comics KNOWS that cap wouldnt be hit by the cards, people here are forgetting that gambit is going to have to dodge the beams too and try to hit cap, all cap has to do is simply rush gambit, with his shield forwards and smack him. end of fight, its like juggs versus the blob., why would juggs punch him when he can simply mow him down.
Originally posted by StyleTime
❌The problem is, this isn't just Captain America vs Gambit. Captain has to keep his sheild to help against the X-Mansion defenses. The sheild also only cover a limited area. You all are acting as though Captain America's shield gives him invunerability. He can't block conitous area of effect attacks which is what Gambit will be using. Captain will be limited to defense in this battle while Gambit will be able to fight to his normal, offensive capabilities. In this battle Gambit has the advantage.
One would think it requires better reflexes to block bullets with a STAFF as opposed to a big ass SHIELD.
First off Gambit is also being attacked so his regular offensive capabilites will be nulled too, maybe moreso since all he has to block with is a shield.
And Cap using a shield proves nothing about their reflexes. All it proves is that Cap has a shield and Gambit has a staff. It says nothing about your abilities. I could have a shield and give someone else a staff but if we both happen to be able to block a shot does that mean the person with the staff has better reflexes? Who says I can't do the same with the staff. All thats proved in the end is that I had a shield and the other person had a staff.
Besides don't you think that since Cap has a "big ass shield" he has the advantage. He has something bigger to hide behind without having to move it around much(like a staff) whereas Gambit has to keep moving his staff to block the attacks of the X-mansion. I'd say that alone puts him at a major disadvantage
Originally posted by King KAM
I am going to put this thread to rest by saying anyone who actually reads comics KNOWS that cap wouldnt be hit by the cards, people here are forgetting that gambit is going to have to dodge the beams too and try to hit cap, all cap has to do is simply rush gambit, with his shield forwards and smack him. end of fight, its like juggs versus the blob., why would juggs punch him when he can simply mow him down.
Originally posted by marvelprince
First off Gambit is also being attacked so his regular offensive capabilites will be nulled too, maybe moreso since all he has to block with is a shield.And Cap using a shield proves nothing about their reflexes. All it proves is that Cap has a shield and Gambit has a staff. It says nothing about your abilities. I could have a shield and give someone else a staff but if we both happen to be able to block a shot does that mean the person with the staff has better reflexes? Who says I can't do the same with the staff. All thats proved in the end is that I had a shield and the other person had a staff.
Besides don't you think that since Cap has a "big ass shield" he has the advantage. He has something bigger to hide behind without having to move it around much(like a staff) whereas Gambit has to keep moving his staff to block the attacks of the X-mansion. I'd say that alone puts him at a major disadvantage
It is very reasonable to assume that a thin pole requires a bit dexterity when blocking bullets than does a shield.
The problem is, the shield doesn't guard his entire body. If he blocks one area he is vunerable. You all also forget that Gambit's projectiles....explode.
Theres no Competition here Gambit would Own Captain sure hes tough and all and that shield [[wich looks gay BTW] but Gambit could just throw some rapid card at him and Cap wouldnt evewn get CLOSE to Gambit One Gambits swifter two if the cap runs at him Gambit will just throw some Cards at him to make him back off and three if he keeps doing that Captain go BOOM!!!!!
Originally posted by deadpool221
Theres no Competition here Gambit would Own Captain sure hes tough and all and that shield [[wich looks gay BTW] but Gambit could just throw some rapid card at him and Cap wouldnt evewn get CLOSE to Gambit One Gambits swifter two if the cap runs at him Gambit will just throw some Cards at him to make him back off and three if he keeps doing that Captain go BOOM!!!!!
I was going to just give up on this thread.
People seem to assume Cap can't dodge bullets...
People assume Cap Can't dodge explosions...
This is EXACTLY how the fight would go:
Immediately Cap would throw his shield... it would ricochet off every laser then hit gambit in the back of the head.. FIGHT OVER!!
Originally posted by The_Olympian
I was going to just give up on this thread.People seem to assume Cap can't dodge bullets...
People assume Cap Can't dodge explosions...
This is EXACTLY how the fight would go:
Immediately Cap would throw his shield... it would ricochet off every laser then hit gambit in the back of the head.. FIGHT OVER!!
Agreed.
Quote - Gambit wins. Dodging bullets and dodging explosions are 2 very different things.
Yeah you're right. Dodging bullets is different than dodging slower, brightly colored cards that explode upon contact.
You know people. The lasers or guns are shooting at Gambit too. Despite what you might think. This is definately going to affect his accuracy.
Originally posted by deadpool221
Actuallly gambit isnt stupid enought to throw JUST one Card he would throw like 10 at differint places and one or two is BOUNd to hit him and then BOOM!
No. Ordinarily he could throw ten in entirely different places but now he is dodging fire from multiple turrets and trying to avoid getting in close range with Captain. I give him enough concentration to throw three at best, and frankly I don't think he would be stupid enough to try to push the envelope there. Despite his cockiness he's actually very concentrated in a fight and is probably trying just as hard as Cap to dodge everything.
You see dodging and blocking comes as second nature to Cap. He was in WWII for crying out loud. Gambit has been in the X-men and his best dodging experiences have been there.
