Protesting Funerals of Dead Soldiers.

Started by botankus19 pages

Originally posted by SP90
They chose to become soldiers under the command of a superior that had large chances of asking them to kill. They didn't have to be murderers, they just chose this way.

Many soldiers, and I know a few who are out now, chose the military to help pay for college and/or to get out of a troubling environment. Maybe they lost the breadwinner of the family...lots of possibilities besides an intent to commit cold-blooded murder.

Or maybe, like my sister-in-law who is at VMI (a military college) with hopes to be in the Air Force one day, she has 20/20 vision along with the smarts, and is actually ambitious enough to be a pilot. She's also one of the sweetest people you'll ever meet. You do know that many commercial airline pilots are retired Air Force, right? Most of them are not out to string up a bunch of babies on a clothesline.

Okay, I think protesting at a funeral is a bad thing, and I do not agree with that *****, just wanted to get this clear. Only, I do have something against the military personnel. My father was in the navy when he was younger and I have nothing against him, plus: he never killed someone. I don't get why soldiers accepted these idiotic orders though, I would have preferred death than being a killer myself.

for one thing every job including the military have to follow orders. if you don't then you are better off quiting or you are going to get fired either way. sometimes we have to do stuff at work that we don't like even through it may sound stupid it has to done sooner or later and for the best and the worst. if you have a job that pays $100,00-$200,000 a year I don't think you would slack off and decide to just be rebellious and not do your job. if you do then you are probably going to get fired and you are probably not find a job that pays that well not because of higher education but the way the employee was fired. if you try to find another job as that, they might hire it just depends on who is hiring you. if they do they aren't going to trust you as much and will keep a close eye on you and if they don't then simply because they won't bother with someone who is not willing to do their job and why would anyone do something stupid with a job that pays well. soldiers are the same also and have to what needs to be done even if the order was ridiculous. you have to find a way to make a living and disobeying is a good start going straight to the poorhouse. it is just part of having a job you do good stuff that you like and do stuff that you don't like and being a soldier is just the same as any other job.

Originally posted by cking
for one thing every job including the military have to follow orders. if you don't then you are better off quiting or you are going to get fired either way. sometimes we have to do stuff at work that we don't like even through it may sound stupid it has to done sooner or later and for the best and the worst. if you have a job that pays $100,00-$200,000 a year I don't think you would slack off and decide to just be rebellious and not do your job. if you do then you are probably going to get fired and you are probably not find a job that pays that well not because of higher education but the way the employee was fired. if you try to find another job as that, they might hire it just depends on who is hiring you. if they do they aren't going to trust you as much and will keep a close eye on you and if they don't then simply because they won't bother with someone who is not willing to do their job and why would anyone do something stupid with a job that pays well. soldiers are the same also and have to what needs to be done even if the order was ridiculous. you have to find a way to make a living and disobeying is a good start going straight to the poorhouse. it is just part of having a job you do good stuff that you like and do stuff that you don't like and being a soldier is just the same as any other job.

Basically what you mean is "I'd kill someone for money.", right ?

Looking over cking's post, that would be a no. It has to be treated as a job because there is nothing to fall back on. For potential reasons already explained a few posts ago, they cannot afford a dishonorable discharge because getting jobs back in "the real world" will be next to impossible because of the lack of training and the discharge itself.

And I would be willing to bet that the percentage of military personnel that actually kill another human being is a little less than 100%. No, make that a little less than 1,000%.

A little less than 1000% ? That doesn't mean anything, are you stupid ? 1000% is ten times all the soldiers, a little less than that is still more than the numbers of soldiers there is. You lack logic in your thoughts...

Originally posted by cking
for one thing every job including the military have to follow orders. if you don't then you are better off quiting or you are going to get fired either way. sometimes we have to do stuff at work that we don't like even through it may sound stupid it has to done sooner or later and for the best and the worst. if you have a job that pays $100,00-$200,000 a year I don't think you would slack off and decide to just be rebellious and not do your job. if you do then you are probably going to get fired and you are probably not find a job that pays that well not because of higher education but the way the employee was fired. if you try to find another job as that, they might hire it just depends on who is hiring you. if they do they aren't going to trust you as much and will keep a close eye on you and if they don't then simply because they won't bother with someone who is not willing to do their job and why would anyone do something stupid with a job that pays well. soldiers are the same also and have to what needs to be done even if the order was ridiculous. you have to find a way to make a living and disobeying is a good start going straight to the poorhouse. it is just part of having a job you do good stuff that you like and do stuff that you don't like and being a soldier is just the same as any other job.

exactly, and just like any other job, you have an obligation not to follow orders or to report people when your orders violate the law.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
exactly, and just like any other job, you have an obligation not to follow orders or to report people when your orders violate the law.

except in the military, not only d you fear loosing your job, you fear a military tribunal. To be judged by the very people wo interpreted you lack of following orders and reporting to be a betrayal of comradeship. Good luck winning that case.

Better than a trial in the Haig

Originally posted by SP90
A little less than 1000% ? That doesn't mean anything, are you stupid ? 1000% is ten times all the soldiers, a little less than that is still more than the numbers of soldiers there is. You lack logic in your thoughts...

I've questioned it time and time before, and yet I still try to post with a 16-year old. I've got to stop. Please come back in 6 years, for that is the year you will finally mature, and maybe, just maybe, you will realize that was overblown sarcasm to try to illustrate a point. Sh*t, I thought that was fairly obvious, but then again, I'm not a tenth-grade teacher, so I'm not around the little varmits all day.

Not trying to be too rude here, but be thankful I'm one of the nicer older guys. PVS or KharmaDog would've eaten you alive.

Originally posted by botankus
I've questioned it time and time before, and yet I still try to post with a 16-year old. I've got to stop. Please come back in 6 years, for that is the year you will finally mature, and maybe, just maybe, you will realize that was overblown sarcasm to try to illustrate a point. Sh*t, I thought that was fairly obvious, but then again, I'm not a tenth-grade teacher, so I'm not around the little varmits all day.

Not trying to be too rude here, but be thankful I'm one of the nicer older guys. PVS or KharmaDog would've eaten you alive.

What was the point of this "sarcasm" then ?

Don't treat me like a child, 16 is old enough to have opinions.

No seriously I don't get the sarcasm... (why say 1000% instead of a reasonable number ? 😕 And I'm the one who's immature ! 😱 )

And I would be willing to bet that the percentage of military personnel that actually kill another human being is a little less than 100%.

In this sentence, the emphasis should be on the words "little less." The point I'm implying is that very few military personnel will kill another human being. Very few. If my statement held true to form, then about 98% of the military personnel would have killed someone, and the death total would be exponentially higher than it is now. But I figured it would be fairly obvious that the number was not in the high 90's.

No, make that a little less than 1,000%.

This statement was an added barrier in case you did not survive the first sentence and still thought it to read point-blank. The 1,000% is an impossible number to achieve, so therefore it automatically invalidates the "less than 100%" as being pure factual. Plus, if you knew me better, you'd know I usually post with a lot of sarcasm, so that would help there.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Better than a trial in the Haig

I agree, but Hague or Military Tribunal....I can see both sides.

Re: Protesting Funerals of Dead Soldiers.

Originally posted by BackFire
http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2178.html

That lady got her ass handed to her by the reporters. 😐

But that's just so wrong, it's just incomprehensible to me that someone would actually do that. That's so disrespectful, And as one of the reporters said, that soldier died for that lady's right to free speech and she has the audacity to dishonor the dead in such a way. It disgusts me.

Re: Re: Protesting Funerals of Dead Soldiers.

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
That lady got her ass handed to her by the reporters. 😐

But that's just so wrong, it's just incomprehensible to me that someone would actually do that. That's so disrespectful, And as one of the reporters said, that soldier died for that lady's right to free speech and she has the audacity to dishonor the dead in such a way. It disgusts me.

I don't mean to be an ass but I don't understand what you mean... Did he really die for free speech ? 😕

These soldiers didnt fight in the revolution. They're not really "protecting" free speech.

What they are doing is giving the nation thier lives. I think it is only fair that this act of utmost loyalty results in laws banning portest at their funerals.

These soldiers have fufilled their citizenship to the highest degree possible. They really are the only true citizens, those willing to bear the ultimate responsibility. We can circumvent the rights of "lesser" citizens to give them that resepect for a few hours.

Or we can just let the military loose on the demonic Phelps family ✅

Re: Re: Re: Protesting Funerals of Dead Soldiers.

Originally posted by SP90
I don't mean to be an ass but I don't understand what you mean... Did he really die for free speech ? 😕

he died for his country which supports free speech 😬

Re: Re: Re: Protesting Funerals of Dead Soldiers.

Originally posted by SP90
I don't mean to be an ass but I don't understand what you mean... Did he really die for free speech ? 😕

thats ok. I disagree too.

Those who protest the soldiers should have a fire hose turned on them.

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2938.html

The woman's husband getting mocked by a reporter. Good stuff.