Global Warming: Humans or Nature?

Originally posted by lord xyz
No...Channel 4.

Do you understand why things on TV aren't as reliable as peer-review science?

Originally posted by lord xyz
What you don't understand is that doesn't disprove...any of his videos.

At all.

I'm not trying to disprove anything

mainly, I think it is silly to look for information on individual's youtube pages. Other than that, there was pretty conclusive evidence of global warming and humans' contribution to it 20 years ago from this Hansen guy I posted links about before. Not trying to say I was all about global warming in 85 when I was 1, just that, it seems so ridiculous that the people arguing about the subject just post clip-art and viral videos as if they were proving something more than people have too much time on the internet.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
...scientists come up with ideas by casting bones on the ground and praying to Satan.

I KNEW IT!

Originally posted by Bardock42
He isn't trying to disprove it, he's pointing out that your standard for belief is quite flimsy.

His videos showed the great global warming swindle to be a biased piece of shit on the likes of the other crap you see on tele.

That embarassed me becuase I used to believe it.

I remain relatviely neutral on global warming, but have tilted to the left again.

Do you undesrtand?

As i've said in this thread before. The warming of the planet and to what extent is irrelevant. The rising sea levels and to what extent are only relevant now because humans tend to be in fixed populations near coast lines. The have been numerous points throughout the last 10,000 years when the world's climate has been far hotter than it is now (There were vineyards in Scandanavia 400 years ago) and people have coped because they were much more mobile than they are now.

The only other major issue contributing to it is the removal of forests...pollution is generally irrelevant. The earth is effectively like a high school science experiment...the one when you shine light onto pond weed. The more light and the higher the temperature, the more CO2 gets changed into O2 by photosynthesis. If we replaced the forests then the higher CO2 levels recorded nowadays would drop.

The earth even has many correcting mechanisms....For example the higher CO2 means higher temperatures...the higher temperatures mean polar ice melts....polar ice melting means Iron locked in the ice gets released into the ocean...the iron getting released into the ocean feeds algae blooms....the more algae the more CO2 gets converted back into 02 and the carbon is trapped and sinks to the ocean floor...the less CO2 means the temperatures drop.

Originally posted by jaden101
The earth even has many correcting mechanisms....For example the higher CO2 means higher temperatures...the higher temperatures mean polar ice melts....polar ice melting means Iron locked in the ice gets released into the ocean...the iron getting released into the ocean feeds algae blooms....the more algae the more CO2 gets converted back into 02 and the carbon is trapped and sinks to the ocean floor...the less CO2 means the temperatures drop.

AHA!

Originally posted by lord xyz
I would just like to point out the hypocrosy of you requesting proof, when you made even bolder statements and provided no proof.

You even went as far as implying no independant scientist supports global warming, and that all those who do are bought out by political associates.

Had you observed anyone else doing this kind of behaviour, you would've ridiculed them and/or posted an unfunny picture from google.

Why are you exempt from your own morals?

Because I am awesome and you're not.

Originally posted by dadudemon
AHA!

The Norwegian pop group?

Are they the answer to global warming?

I thought they were only good for family guy parodies.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Maybe I wasn't clear.

His videos showed the great global warming swindle to be a biased piece of shit on the likes of the other crap you see on tele.

That embarassed me becuase I used to believe it.

I remain relatviely neutral on global warming, but have tilted to the left again.

Do you undesrtand?

it's natural but humans are held responsible for Global warming