Weapon X Battle!!!!!!!!!!

Started by King_Mungi6 pages

No Wild Child is depowered now, and no he reverted into an animal after his medicine wore off. Here let me break this down for you to better understand as this is his personality in order since your not getting it. As said by him in Alpha Flight he didn't want to be Wild Child and swore he would bever become him again, but they regave him this name in X-Factor and Weapon X.

Wild Child-Untamed Monster
Weapon Omega-Skilled human who isn't a monster anymore
Wildheart-Skilled human who is slowly slipping back into his animal rage
Wild Child (X-Factor)-Surfer punk kid, which is completly out of character as explained on the first page
Wild Child (Weapon X)-Vampire monster, which is completly out of character as explained on the first page
Wild Child-Depowered

I don't care which incarnation of Wild Child it is. All 6 of them would die against Wolverine.

Berserker Wolverine is more savage than Wild Child.
Logan with no powers still has a century of experience over Weapon Omega. Plus being trained by Ogun, greatest Martial Arts Master. Getting tips from Wolverine does not mean you are anywhere near being as good in Hand 2 Hand as he is.

Originally posted by riceroost
I don't care which incarnation of Wild Child it is. All 6 of them would die against Wolverine.

Berserker Wolverine is more savage than Wild Child.
Logan with no powers still has a century of experience over Weapon Omega. Plus being trained by Ogun, greatest Martial Arts Master. Getting tips from Wolverine does not mean you are anywhere near being as good in Hand 2 Hand as he is.

Alright I'm done you have obviously no idea what your talking about as Wolverine was bloodlusted sneak attacked Wild Child and still couldn't kill him. You have provided nothing to back up your claims other than show your lack of knowledge of the character. Weapon Omega killed Daredevil in one move, he is insanely skilled.

He was trained by the best in the world, not just Wolverine as I have stated countless times. Good lord

But its wild child not weapon omega, I remember when he nearly killed heather and logan hunted him down. It was quite a good fight, but im pretty sure Logan would of won.

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
But its wild child not weapon omega, I remember when he nearly killed heater and logan hunted him down. It was quite a good fight, but im pretty sure Logan would of won.

That was Wild Child before he got trained by the best of the best. If it's Wild Child in this battle it's current Wild Child with all of his training he has gained over the years he can use. That's a huge different beating a character who at the time didn't have an fraction of his skill he does now.

Wild Child after all the training in the world still gets slapped around by Sabretooth, who loses most of the time to Wolverine. Wild Child has never had a good showing against Wolverine, ever! Wolverine can beat Shang-Chi like he is a novice and Shang-Chi is a better martial artist than Daredevil.

I'm not going to dispute that Wild Child could beat Daredevil. He should. He is stronger/faster/tougher than Daredevil, but Daredevil is a punk. He is not close to being in the same league as Wolverine.

Kyle is only as skilled as you portray him in Alpha Flight. And your best example of his ability is that he killed a Daredevil clone. Wolverine killed Weapon 15. A being designed to destroy all mutant life.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wild Child after all the training in the world still gets slapped around by Sabretooth, who loses most of the time to Wolverine. Wild Child has never had a good showing against Wolverine, ever! Wolverine can beat Shang-Chi like he is a novice and Shang-Chi is a better martial artist than Daredevil.

I'm not going to dispute that Wild Child could beat Daredevil. He should. He is stronger/faster/tougher than Daredevil, but Daredevil is a punk. He is not close to being in the same league as Wolverine.

Kyle is only as skilled as you portray him in Alpha Flight. And your best example of his ability is that he killed a Daredevil clone. Wolverine killed Weapon 15. A being designed to destroy all mutant life.

Ummm....no. As I stated Weapon X was poorly written as they forgot about his healing factor which was all explained on the first page. No he didn't, and against Wolverine as Wildheart he had a great showing are you nuts?

Daredevil isn't a punk, I suggest you check the respect thread for him first then comment. Hell Daredevil has beaten Wolverine himself.

Well if you want to go that route, he beat Madsion Jeffries the guy who is responsbile for destroying all mutantkind in North America. Wild Child has tagged Northstar more times than Wolverine.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm....no. As I stated Weapon X was poorly written as they forgot about his healing factor which was all explained on the first page. No he didn't, and against Wolverine as Wildheart he had a great showing are you nuts?

Daredevil isn't a punk, I suggest you check the respect thread for him first then comment. Hell Daredevil has beaten Wolverine himself.

Well if you want to go that route, he beat Madsion Jeffries the guy who is responsbile for destroying all mutantkind in North America. Wild Child has tagged Northstar more times than Wolverine.


wild cat has also foughten north star a lot more times then wolverine.
actauly I thought weapon -x the run with wolverine scot was well down some of it other stuff not so much.

DD has never beaten wolverine.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he didn't, and against Wolverine as Wildheart he had a great showing are you nuts?
Where, When, Prove it.

Daredevil isn't a punk, I suggest you check the respect thread for him first then comment. Hell Daredevil has beaten Wolverine himself.[/B]
Daredevil is a punk. Wolverine is physically superior than Daredevil in every way and he has 90 years more experience and training. Daredevil beating Wolverine is just stupid. Wolverine has slapped Daredevil around before in DD own title. Millar had DD beating Wolverine as a fluke. Wolverine was fighting mind control.

Well if you want to go that route, he beat Madsion Jeffries the guy who is responsbile for destroying all mutantkind in North America. Wild Child has tagged Northstar more times than Wolverine. [/B]
When did Madison Jeffries destroy mutantkind? Exactly. Wolverine KILLED Northstar.

Originally posted by capt it up
wild cat has also foughten north star a lot more times then wolverine.
actauly I thought weapon -x the run with wolverine scot was well down some of it other stuff not so much.

DD has never beaten wolverine.

Actually he hasn't, the same amount Wolverine has. Parts were well done, but Wild Child was not and anyone who read Alpha FLight knows he was horrible misportrayed and his powers were hindered. Completly ignoring his healing factor and the fact he has gone up against worse than Sabertooth such as Gods with Alpha FLight and was never afraid.

Yeah he did, he smacked him over the head with a dumbell and made him fall onto a sword

Originally posted by riceroost
Where, When, Prove it.

Daredevil is a punk. Wolverine is physically superior than Daredevil in every way and he has 90 years more experience and training. Daredevil beating Wolverine is just stupid. Wolverine has slapped Daredevil around before in DD own title. Millar had DD beating Wolverine as a fluke. Wolverine was fighting mind control.

When did Madison Jeffries destroy mutantkind? Exactly. Wolverine KILLED Northstar.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Since your struggling to understand, here is where the scan is fron:

[b]Weapon Omega/Wild Child vs. Wolverine
Alpha Flight #127-Here Wild Child goes toe to toe with Wolverine, showing his growth and skill. He's actually one of the most skilled fighters, trained by the best in the world. Yet they make Wild Child job in the Weapon X series.

1. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-17.jpg
2. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-18.jpg
3. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-19.jpg
4. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-21.jpg
5. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-22.jpg
6. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight127-23.jpg [/B]

Ummm...Wolverine isn't superhuman. The best stats he has is peak human, which was stated just like Daredevil. Daredevil was even holding back when he beat him, but in all the times did Wolverine beat Daredevil in one move? exactally.

Weapon X: Days of Future Now. Techically Shadowcat did by allowing Wolverine to phase past her to hit him. Do you want me to show the scans of Northstar destroying Sabertooth? Unlike you I provoide evidence

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually he hasn't, the same amount Wolverine has. Parts were well done, but Wild Child was not and anyone who read Alpha FLight knows he was horrible misportrayed and his powers were hindered. Completly ignoring his healing factor and the fact he has gone up against worse than Sabertooth such as Gods with Alpha FLight and was never afraid.

Yeah he did, he smacked him over the head with a dumbell and made him fall onto a sword


how many tiems has wild childt hit north star?

first of all ur talken about enemy state run in wich DD made a desperate lung and hit wolverine on the face with a dumbell. wolverine then tripped over a hand ninja and fell perfectly on a sword. that what u call major plot devices. Also wolverine was not KO and the only reason DD is not dead is becuase wolverine snapped back into control if he ahd not that sword in his lung would not be any thing. so no DD did not win

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...Wolverine isn't superhuman. The best stats he has is peak human, which was stated just like Daredevil. Daredevil was even holding back when he beat him, but in all the times did Wolverine beat Daredevil in one move? exactally.

Weapon X: Days of Future Now. Techically Shadowcat did by allowing Wolverine to phase past her to hit him. Do you want me to show the scans of Northstar destroying Sabertooth? Unlike you I provoide evidence


actauly wolverine is superhuman as I have proven many many times
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
鈥淭he Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.
ya and the only time wolverien has foguht DD he was mind controlled which is not fair becuase no ne fights as well when there mind controlled as u well know form wolveriens run in with alpha flight

Originally posted by capt it up
how many tiems has wild childt hit north star?

first of all ur talken about enemy state run in wich DD made a desperate lung and hit wolverine on the face with a dumbell. wolverine then tripped over a hand ninja and fell perfectly on a sword. that what u call major plot devices. Also wolverine was not KO and the only reason DD is not dead is becuase wolverine snapped back into control if he ahd not that sword in his lung would not be any thing. so no DD did not win

Aurora 1 (she got cocky and almost killed her in AF #12)
Northstar 2 (after a government meeting he freaked out, then as Weapon Omega)

Uhhhh...that's exactally what I said earlier he feel on a sword. Also the fight was over, DD didn't want to fight him as he knew he was being mind controlled.

Originally posted by capt it up
actauly wolverine is superhuman as I have proven many many times
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
鈥淭he Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.
ya and the only time wolverien has foguht DD he was mind controlled which is not fair becuase no ne fights as well when there mind controlled as u well know form wolveriens run in with alpha flight

The handbooks I have list him having peak performance but his healing factor allows him to continue fighting at peak than a normal human could. They stated he had "Athlete" speed, metahuman "stamina" ie healing factor allowing him to recover quickly at best his strength is enhanced human due to his adamintium skelton. Without it, he is peak human. He cannot lift tons of weight

Hey for the longest time I had to keep correcting you about that.

Wolverine was being mind controlled when he went against Wild Child. Mind controlled fights mean nothing. Even so Wolverine is clearly the aggressor. Wild Child again flees from Wolverine in this fight. Still does not have any victories over Wolverine, while Wolverine has victories over Wild Child as well as many wins over Sabretooth, who is basically Wild Child on Super Crack. Uncanny X-Men # 222: Wolverine beats Sabretooth in one move. Does it agaiin during Inferno. Did Wild Child ever beat Sabretooth? No, he's scared *hitless of him and of Wolverine too.

Wolverine is beyond peak human. Look at the current stats.

Strength:
DD: 2
Cap: 3
Wolverine: 4

Daredevil has normal strength for a man his size who does intensive exercise. Cap is peak human.

Wolverine is Enhanced Human. This is above Peak human. He's lifted over 1,000 lbs with one hand, easily.

Doesn't matter anyway. Wolverine has so much more experience and training it's stupid that Daredevil could last 2 seconds.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
The handbooks I have list him having peak performance but his healing factor allows him to continue fighting at peak than a normal human could. They stated he had "Athlete" speed, metahuman "stamina" ie healing factor allowing him to recover quickly at best his strength is enhanced human due to his adamintium skelton. Without it, he is peak human. He cannot lift tons of weight

Hey for the longest time I had to keep correcting you about that.


no the hand books u have listed state wolverine at enchanced human strength which is beyond human limitions.
also wolverine strength is superhuman or enchance human all the hand books say it all the quides even comics say it and here are feats that back up up
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesoldstats0xj.jpg
Wolverine throwing a 1,600 pound full trash container with one arm. (Yes look it up ur self鈥檚 at full they are 1,600 pounds)
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anothergoodoldstrengthfeat5sc.jpg

This pic speaks for it self.
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvstrength9ea.jpg

Lifting a shark that weights between 1000 to 1200 pounds and throwing it in a boat from the water. (Look it up your self if u don鈥檛 believe how much a shark that size would way)
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthfeatskarkstyle9jl.jpg

Wolverine punching a guy who says he his brother in water so hard he slams into the wall and his head goes through it.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength21yp.jpg

Wolverine beats rough-house with his fists. (Rough-house is stated by (marvels wolverine official hand book 2004) to be strength class of a 6 which is the same strength class colossus is in. he is also stated (wolverine # 123) to be just under hulks level of strength.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsroughhouse6bd.jpg

wolverine lifting blob and slamming blobs head into the wall.
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthandspeedfeat9oj.jpg

wolverine pick up a huge tree looking thing like a base ball bat and hitting a creature of pure energy.
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherstrengthfeat7pr.jpg

Death wolverine smashing through a solid door of titanium that鈥檚 also being held back by x-man.
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherwolverinestrengthfeat9n.gif

since my printer is broken I can only get scan already on my computer so here are comic issue numbers of a few more feats of strength.

In (New X-men 115) Cassandra Nova has wolverine Cyclopes and pig faced guy chained up and wolverine easily breaks his chains using just strength and hits Cassandra nova.

In ( wolverine 28 agent of shield part 3) wolverine allows him self to be captured. Wolverine arms leg and neck are locked in this metal devices to hold wolverine but as soon as the sentinel attacks wolverine easily breaks it using pure strength.

In (Black Panther #9) a huge dragon mutant creature is flying holding black panther and wolverine stabs the creature in the tail and then swings the creature the opposite way while the creature is hold black panther.

In ( Wolverine #44) wolverine runs through a wall of rocks and boulders like it nothing.

In ( x-men # 7) wolverine who is haft dead and drugged breaks out of metal holding designed to hold him, using nothing but pure strength.

In ( x-men # 98) which is the 6th issue of x-men that wolverine was ever in. wolverine breaks holding of what were said to be unbreakable using just his strength because some guy this jean.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Aurora 1 (she got cocky and almost killed her in AF #12)
Northstar 2 (after a government meeting he freaked out, then as Weapon Omega)

Uhhhh...that's exactally what I said earlier he feel on a sword. Also the fight was over, DD didn't want to fight him as he knew he was being mind controlled.


so like I said DD never defeat wolverine

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine was being mind controlled when he went against Wild Child. Mind controlled fights mean nothing. Even so Wolverine is clearly the aggressor. Wild Child again flees from Wolverine in this fight. Still does not have any victories over Wolverine, while Wolverine has victories over Wild Child as well as many wins over Sabretooth, who is basically Wild Child on Super Crack. Uncanny X-Men # 222: Wolverine beats Sabretooth in one move. Does it agaiin during Inferno. Did Wild Child ever beat Sabretooth? No, he's scared *hitless of him and of Wolverine too.

Wolverine is beyond peak human. Look at the current stats.

Strength:
DD: 2
Cap: 3
Wolverine: 4

Daredevil has normal strength for a man his size who does intensive exercise. Cap is peak human.

Wolverine is Enhanced Human. This is above Peak human. He's lifted over 1,000 lbs with one hand, easily.

Doesn't matter anyway. Wolverine has so much more experience and training it's stupid that Daredevil could last 2 seconds.

No he wasn't, Moondragon showed him an image of Storm's death and he moved in to kill Wild Child on his own. Read the scans. He even comments that Wolverine isn't one of the "converted" who are mind-controlled. Good lord read the scans, he jumps at Wildheart and he actually takes it to Wolverine but doesn't want to give into his rage so he tracks down Wolverine's path to figure out what set off his path and upon doing so Wolverine clues in he was tricked in thinking Wild Child killed Storm stopped fight. It wasn't because he was sacred. No Wild Child is scared shitless in a vadly written story, a less skilled Wild Child battled Sabertooth three straight says in AoA.

No duh! as I said he can't lift multiple tons and even Captain America has shown to lift a ton doing a military press with ease yet he is still considered peak human.

Originally posted by capt it up
no the hand books u have listed state wolverine at enchanced human strength which is beyond human limitions.
also wolverine strength is superhuman or enchance human all the hand books say it all the quides even comics say it and here are feats that back up up
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesoldstats0xj.jpg
Wolverine throwing a 1,600 pound full trash container with one arm. (Yes look it up ur self鈥檚 at full they are 1,600 pounds)
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anothergoodoldstrengthfeat5sc.jpg

UHHHHH! Read what I wrote I even said he has enhanced human strength, but that's due to his skelton. Without it it was stated he just has PEAK strength. I even have the comics that state this, and I'll be getting the scans tonight when I get back from work. Most of your feats are from what If's (blob) and not typical powered Wolverine (Death). Hell even Wild Child has beaten people who have superhuman strength and durability, but they still state he has peak human strength. Punching with an adamintium fist gives the person more power. Punch with a roll of coins in your hand, it will have much more strength. It's a proven fact.

Originally posted by capt it up
so like I said DD never defeat wolverine

No he still beat Wolverine.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he wasn't, Moondragon showed him an image of Storm's death and he moved in to kill Wild Child on his own. Read the scans. He even comments that Wolverine isn't one of the "converted" who are mind-controlled. Good lord read the scans, he jumps at Wildheart and he actually takes it to Wolverine but doesn't want to give into his rage so he tracks down Wolverine's path to figure out what set off his path and upon doing so Wolverine clues in he was tricked in thinking Wild Child killed Storm stopped fight. It wasn't because he was sacred. No Wild Child is scared shitless in a vadly written story, a less skilled Wild Child battled Sabertooth three straight says in AoA.

No duh! as I said he can't lift multiple tons and even Captain America has shown to lift a ton doing a military press with ease yet he is still considered peak human.

UHHHHH! Read what I wrote I even said he has enhanced human strength, but that's due to his skelton. Without it it was stated he just has PEAK strength. I even have the comics that state this, and I'll be getting the scans tonight when I get back from work. Most of your feats are from what If's (blob) and not typical powered Wolverine (Death). Hell even Wild Child has beaten people who have superhuman strength and durability, but they still state he has peak human strength. Punching with an adamintium fist gives the person more power. Punch with a roll of coins in your hand, it will have much more strength. It's a proven fact.

No he still beat Wolverine.


capt was able to lift 1,100 pounds once that his best feat most of the feats I listed destroy that feat.
actauly non of them are what if's ecpt maby blob feat im not sure if thats a what if or not.
death wolverine is no stronger then normal wolverine.
also I wanna see the comic were wolevrien says his skeleton gives him superhmans trength and with out it he only peakhuman.
also if that was so the why is his agility and refkex still superhuman? also tell me why hand books all state wolverine as this?

why did DD win? wolverine was not KO. wolverine could of gotten abck up there no indication DD won at all.