Weapon X Battle!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by capt it up
capt was able to lift 1,100 pounds once that his best feat most of the feats I listed destroy that feat.
actauly non of them are what if's ecpt maby blob feat im not sure if thats a what if or not.
death wolverine is no stronger then normal wolverine.
also I wanna see the comic were wolevrien says his skeleton gives him superhmans trength and with out it he only peakhuman.
also if that was so the why is his agility and refkex still superhuman? also tell me why hand books all state wolverine as this?

why did DD win? wolverine was not KO. wolverine could of gotten abck up there no indication DD won at all.

Not really, as he did it easily shows that wasn't his peak.

It is a what if, I have it. It's "what if Wolverine killed the Hulk".

It's a fact. Your body can't hold certain weights or it will collapse it needs to be able to brace it. By having a indestructable form it braces the body allowing it to lift more weight as well as giving punches more image as your body is more durable.

Yes he was, his powers were augemented and he even sent out blasts

Marvel universe #12 (read the last paragraph...500 lbs), plus there are othes from the older handbooks. I have to check if they stated it in the deluxe edition
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/m_handbook_012_17_rougher.jpg

Reflexes are due to his enhanced senses which was stated as well, and agility was due to his healing factor allowing him to perform feats a normal human couldn't do. Hell even Puck before his upgrade had superhuman agility and he was just a dwarf.

Wolverine was subdued and didn't continue the fight, by the rules of the board that's a win.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really, as he did it easily shows that wasn't his peak.

It is a what if, I have it. It's "what if Wolverine killed the Hulk".

It's a fact. Your body can't hold certain weights or it will collapse it needs to be able to brace it. By having a indestructable form it braces the body allowing it to lift more weight as well as giving punches more image as your body is more durable.

Yes he was, his powers were augemented and he even sent out blasts

Marvel universe #12 (read the last paragraph...500 lbs), plus there are othes from the older handbooks. I have to check if they stated it in the deluxe edition
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/m_handbook_012_17_rougher.jpg

Reflexes are due to his enhanced senses which was stated as well, and agility was due to his healing factor allowing him to perform feats a normal human couldn't do. Hell even Puck before his upgrade had superhuman agility and he was just a dwarf.

Wolverine was subdued and didn't continue the fight, by the rules of the board that's a win.

Originally posted by capt it up
ya I was not sure about the blob pic but thats the only one and that was given to me from a friend.
his skeleton gives him add support true but not superhuman strength, wolverine already has superhuman strength with out it, as seen when he throws the trash dumpster and also when he holding up the elevator.
ya ur using the orignal hand book which by the wya I own it and it had more then a few thigns wrong with it and many character in it were later said to have diffrent abilites then listed in it. also there far more hand book like things that say wolverine has superhuman strength and enchanced strength and they are newer and all more updated.

actauly on that board that would not be a win for DD that be PIS. first wolverine is no KO and there no reason he could not get up he plainly does not wanna get up. also his mind control was gone so how the hell is that a win for DD?

It's fine, if I get time tonight I will send you the whole issue. Or what do you perfer Infinity War #3 or that?

No, he didn't. I have handbooks that state he is 500lbs and comcis that state while under an operation table while various people examined him about that he is "at the peak of human perfection". Holding up an elevator is due to bracing as I mentioned. A normal human would have been torn to peices and as I also mentioned Cap who is also peak human easily bench pressed over 1000lbs so the dumpster is not so farfethced. Actually that handbook entry on Wolverine had no errors, it was very accurate. I'll post the others that basically say the exact same thing tonight when I get back from work. Majority of the handbooks state he has enhanced human strength not superhuman which means you can lift multiple tons. It's a rather large difference, I would give him enhanced human strength no way superhuman.

Because if written to what DD can do he can sense people movements and respond to a high degree that make it impossible for Wolverine to "Easily" beat him. No he was done, he was severly damaged due to the blade and if DD wanted to he could have continued fighting but didn't.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Marvel universe #12 (read the last paragraph...500 lbs), plus there are othes from the older handbooks. I have to check if they stated it in the deluxe edition

Reflexes are due to his enhanced senses which was stated as well, and agility was due to his healing factor allowing him to perform feats a normal human couldn't do. Hell even Puck before his upgrade had superhuman agility and he was just a dwarf.

Wolverine was subdued and didn't continue the fight, by the rules of the board that's a win.

Wolverine's strength max was 500 lbs because till that point the only time he had done anything strength related was when he threw Colossus (500 lbs) at the Juggernaut. It is way beyond that now. He can do Cap's max with one hand.

Wolverine retains his reflexes and speed even when he wears a power inhibitor.

Oh please. Wolverine fights with sword and sears sticking out of him all the time. He fought Deathbird with no Healing Factor and beat her despite being completely impaled. Wolverine got teleported out of the fight with Daredevil.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine's strength max was 500 lbs because till that point the only time he had done anything strength related was when he threw Colossus (500 lbs) at the Juggernaut. It is way beyond that now. He can do Cap's max with one hand.

Wolverine retains his reflexes and speed even when he wears a power inhibitor.

Oh please. Wolverine fights with sword and sears sticking out of him all the time. He fought Deathbird with no Healing Factor and beat her despite being completely impaled. Wolverine got teleported out of the fight with Daredevil.

Ummmm...no. As stated in the handbooks he is enhanced human, he can't lift multiple tons so him lifting cap's max with one hand is out of the question. SHow me scans of him doing stuff that makes him superhuman than. The handbook I posted was from 1983, the same time were several of his strength feats have already happened.

Wolverine doesn't have superhuman speed, so your point? and reflexes can be trained as Puck before his upgrade had superhuman reflexes the same level as Spider-man... instantous.

Deathbird isn't impressive, and what did I say? Check the Daredevil respect thread and then comment.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's fine, if I get time tonight I will send you the whole issue. Or what do you perfer Infinity War #3 or that?

No, he didn't. I have handbooks that state he is 500lbs and comcis that state while under an operation table while various people examined him about that he is "at the peak of human perfection". Holding up an elevator is due to bracing as I mentioned. A normal human would have been torn to peices and as I also mentioned Cap who is also peak human easily bench pressed over 1000lbs so the dumpster is not so farfethced. Actually that handbook entry on Wolverine had no errors, it was very accurate. I'll post the others that basically say the exact same thing tonight when I get back from work. Majority of the handbooks state he has enhanced human strength not superhuman which means you can lift multiple tons. It's a rather large difference, I would give him enhanced human strength no way superhuman.

Because if written to what DD can do he can sense people movements and respond to a high degree that make it impossible for Wolverine to "Easily" beat him. No he was done, he was severly damaged due to the blade and if DD wanted to he could have continued fighting but didn't.

Originally posted by capt it up
infinty war #3 please.
wolverien hand was bent not limp menign he was usign his muscle to hold the elevator.
capt was shown bencing 1,100 once.
that hand book had major errors.
also I think of enchaned human as superhuman level1. becuase enchanced human is beyond human abilties menaing he is superhuman.
also picing up and through 1,600 pound trashdumbster with one hand is a lot better then benching 1,100 pounds

Alright, did you get #2? because I have to delete the scans from photobucket so i can upload #3

Wolverine bending his wrist is an error, for having indestructable claws in his wrists how is it even possible for him to bend it? Regardless without his skelton he would have been ripped apart by the sheer force.

With ease, and has still gone toe to toe with characters Wolverine has battled with and proved to do equally well.

Not the Wolverine entry, as it basically just listed his history up to date.

I would give him superhuman level 1 not any futher though, since he isn't capable of that. See where I'm from we have vinyl dumpsters as well as metal, how do we know the weight of the actual dumpster? we don't.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Deathbird isn't impressive, and what did I say? Check the Daredevil respect thread and then comment.

Originally posted by riceroost
Uhhhhh Deathbird has held off GLADIATOR before. She is the one who trained him. My point was Wolverine isn't bothered by getting impaled when he DOESN'T have a working healing factor, thus getting impaled by a ninja sword WITH a heling factor is nothing.
I repeat, compared to Wolverine Daredevil is a chump.

Gladitor jobs....A LOT. I'm sorry but look at Gladitor's respect thread, and to see no way in hell could someone like this stop him

1. http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/deathbird.htm

Oh no he doesn't care, he has impaled himself on multiple occasions just to prove a point. However, he still got impaled in a bad spot which caused some serious. Actually no he isn't, if written to what he can do Daredevil is a beast, even took on the Avengers himself.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Alright, did you get #2? because I have to delete the scans from photobucket so i can upload #3

Wolverine bending his wrist is an error, for having indestructable claws in his wrists how is it even possible for him to bend it? Regardless without his skelton he would have been ripped apart by the sheer force.

With ease, and has still gone toe to toe with characters Wolverine has battled with and proved to do equally well.

Not the Wolverine entry, as it basically just listed his history up to date.

I would give him superhuman level 1 not any futher though, since he isn't capable of that. See where I'm from we have vinyl dumpsters as well as metal, how do we know the weight of the actual dumpster? we don't.

actauly wolverine can bend his wrist when his claws are in which they were.

Originally posted by capt it up
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actauly we do know the weight I listed the site.
ya I sayign wolverine level 1 superhuman strength over that of capt.
ya I got number 2 thanks mungi.

actauly wolverine can bend his wrist when his claws are in which they were.

There are many different weights for garbage bins, how could you know which one it is exactally?

He's stronger than Cap, but not that much stronger where he competly dwarfs him.

Saved and all? so I can delete them now? Just want to make sure since I'm just about to leave for work

I know, what I'm saying it shouldn't be possible as I have seen Wolverine bend his wrists with his claws extended. When they are retracted just how far back do they go? since in the handbooks they have made several blueprints of his claws with mixed results.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
There are many different weights for garbage bins, how could you know which one it is exactally?

He's stronger than Cap, but not that much stronger where he competly dwarfs him.

Saved and all? so I can delete them now? Just want to make sure since I'm just about to leave for work

I know, what I'm saying it shouldn't be possible as I have seen Wolverine bend his wrists with his claws extended. When they are retracted just how far back do they go? since in the handbooks they have made several blueprints of his claws with mixed results.

well the average garbage bin is 5 feet. that was a normal one u find in most cities pritty easy to see it about 5 feet all menaing when full like it was it averages 1,600 pounds

ya i saved them thanks.

he does not totaly dwarf capt but there clearly a diffrence in there strength levels.

Originally posted by capt it up
well the average garbage bin is 5 feet. that was a normal one u find in most cities pritty easy to see it about 5 feet all menaing when full like it was it averages 1,600 pounds

ya i saved them thanks.

he does not totaly dwarf capt but there clearly a diffrence in there strength levels.

In my city their mostly vinyl as they last longer in the water, easier to transport and lighter. Doesn't make much of a difference, still a strength feat

Ok cool

I agree.

Anyway... so, I think it is clear that Wild Child is a pretty formidible foe. took awhile to establish that but, whatever! anyway, back on topic, how about you argue about Chamber next?clappingbash

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know, what I'm saying it shouldn't be possible as I have seen Wolverine bend his wrists with his claws extended. When they are retracted just how far back do they go? since in the handbooks they have made several blueprints of his claws with mixed results.

ya, how else could they be so long...

lol 3 one foot long claws wouldn't fit in my forarms and I'm almost a foot taller then Wolverine🙂

Originally posted by King_Mungi
In my city their mostly vinyl as they last longer in the water, easier to transport and lighter. Doesn't make much of a difference, still a strength feat

Ok cool

I agree.

yup

k so were agreed

uh...okay

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine's claws are housed in his forearms, not his wrists. While they are extended they lock in the carpals of his hands, enabling him free movement of the arm and wrist while the claws are completely extended or retracted, but not in transition.

Originally posted by Soleran
lol 3 one foot long claws wouldn't fit in my forarms and I'm almost a foot taller then Wolverine🙂

Exactally.