Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
Alright, new parameters.Lucifer and Michael CAN use their powers in the Universe I'm setting this in.
Everyone in the MU is transported there. All their heroes unite / cosmic beings rally together
Can they stop these two?
Much Better! 😄
Too much magic and brains in the MU really to be beat, and by putting the whole universe in there, you've got top tier reality warpers, and all of the Infinity Watch. MU shouldn't have much of a problem.
Mider, I didn't mean for it to be stupid. I understand the importance of $crossovers$. Let's say for instance, that for one brief moment in time. The DC and Marvel universe became one. Suddenly, we would have a different hierarchical scale of power. In this new suddenly created world of one, regardless of Marvel and DC being 2 different distinct universes, Michael and Lucifer would be able to wipe out its existence still, (if the powers ABOVE THEM allowed them to)...which I doubt would be the case. However, there is only 1 clearly more powerful entity than Michael and Lucifer if you crossed them TOGETHER, in my opinion, and that is the TOAA....aka The Presence. If he didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't. I'm sorry if this is disheartenign to you. Perhaps I'm overrating/exaggerating their limits, but I'm thinking not.
Again, this is something Michael and Lucifer can undo, no? Together, they have BOTH powers. So the HOTU destroys, but is that actually a victory for Marvel if it's self destruction?
Ha! Lucifer would laugh 'cause it would be exactly what he'd want, and Michael would scratch his head contemplating how this fits into The Presences's work.
it doesnt matter thats bull to include them if we always included TOAA or the presance then no one would ever win so yeah its stuipd to make these kind of battles and place the TOAA or the presance into the fray, we usually only use the LT and below and since people think the LT is so great sometimes we dont even use the LT but just below him.
Originally posted by Mider
it doesnt matter thats bull to include them if we always included TOAA or the presance then no one would ever win so yeah its stuipd to make these kind of battles and place the TOAA or the presance into the fray, we usually only use the LT and below and since people think the LT is so great sometimes we dont even use the LT but just below him.
Hey, Mider. Living Tribunal tells them to go away then banishes them to another universe.
LT FOR THE WIN!
Originally posted by leonheartmm
GS ur chokin on ur own crap again. leaving out the proven idiots........the brothers win."Who is we? You and leonhart, whose fanboyisms stretch so far beyond reason that it's ridiculous! You probably think Gog can take Galactus! Seriously. The proof is right in front of you."
lmao what PROOF it wud be nice if you actually gave any before claimin it was infront of every1.
and gs the endless have been proven to be omniversal beings as far as dc is concerned. not all omniversal beings are featured in other comics, eg. roma who came to stop wanda with the chaos wave was said to be the OMNIBVERSAL guardian in marvel but u dont see him prancin around in dc/vertogo/darkhorse do you? its a just a measure of power.
Show me where its stated anywhere that the Endless are omniversal beings. Until you can do so then that statement is false.
Roma is NOT an omniversal power she is a being who has been given the job of safeguarding the status quo of the omniverse. Big difference.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
spectre isnt an aspect of god, hell even the brothers arent really aspects. hes just another angel who fell with lucifer's rebellion and later became a tool for channeling the presence's wrath to redeam himself.
The Spectre is an aspect of God, youre quite right he was a fallen angel however he was transformed into the embodiment of Gods wrath, his former self was erased.
Of course the brothers arent aspects of God, who ever tried to argue that? 😕
Originally posted by Mider
lucifer would womp anyone with the IG can the IG create a universe on a whim or servive a multiverse destroying blast with out getting a tan no it cant even travel to another universe with out losing its power.
But Lucifer has done neither of those things Mider. Dont listen to fansites
Lucifer cannot and has not ever created a universe on a whim. The Vertigo universe was created by Yahweh and the brothers helped out a bit but on the most part they watched. Before the creation of his own universe, Lucifer had never made one before:
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The demiurgic blast was not multiversal. Some fanboy said that on his fansite. It was universal and the resultant matter was then used by Lucifer to shape his universe. Lucifer cannot make a universe on a whim, he needs aid to make a universe, he is the shaper whilst Michael is the creator.
