Well, if Germany had control of Europe it wouldn't be entirely vital. Not all of Europe was antisemitic and would be willing to fight or do anything for Germany. I wouldn't doubt that Allied powers could still make it through the war even though 'Germany would have control of Europe'.
That's just my opinion, though.
Originally posted by Mithlond
Not sure how many of you are aware of this...In the early 1970s, the military bigwigs at Sandhurst (where British officers train) ran a very complex military wargame. It fought the battles of Operation 'Sealion', aka the German invasion of Britain once the RAF had been wiped out (which of course, they weren't).
The interesting thing about this wargame wasn't the fact that they employed some of the best probability theorists and statisticians around to run the results of battles; but that they actually gathered the British and German commanders who were still alive and comptis mentus who would have been opposing each other 30-odd years before.
Now, the RAF then in the wargame had been wiped out, but the complex systems of fortifications and defences which criss-crossed Britain still remained, including the GHQ(?) line which circled from Bristol, around London and up towards Edinburgh. This was designed as the main British defensive position should it be invaded. There were countless other smaller lines all over the country. You can still see evidence of these in the British countryside which are still dotted with pillboxes, etc.
So, Sealion began with massive bombardments, etc, and Germans creating a channel in the channel(!) using mines. The Royal Navy under threat from this bombardment retreated to Scapa Flow in Scotland. Then the Germans began the invasion using seaborne and airborne landings. British beach defences did their job, holding up the Germans, but the first day or two saw the Germans pushing up through Sussex and Kent, held up by the few regular troops stationed in those counties and by the numerous Home Guard units. On day 3 the Germans hit the first of these 'Stop lines' known as the 'Winston line' which was a line of fortification further South of the GHQ line. It was here that the tide turned. The Navy had left Scapa Flow once the actual invasion had begun, and now arrived back in the Channel, and regular troops from the North started to flood the defences of the Winston line. Over the next few days a mixture of the Navy disrupting German supply and strength of defence of the Winston line turned the tide strongly back in Britain's favour. After 7-10 days, the German commanders ordered the withdrawal but only about 25% of German forces managed to get back to France in a German 'Dunkirk'. The German's hadn't managed to break the first of the British Stop lines and hadn't even got as far as the main GHQ line.
As I said, I'm not sure how many of you know this, but I thought it was interesting.
I did not know that, wonderful information and interesting stuff. They should do more "what if" combat scenerios.
Originally posted by Janus Marius
Hitler was a poor general, and he never had any real training in tactics and strategy- he was a lance corporal in WWI. The idiot murdered 80 of his generals just in one year. He argued against the better judgment of the OKH and pushed aside good generals to advocate yes-men.
I agree but he was incredibly lucky. The life expectancy of someone with his role in the army was a few days, he lasted four years ✅
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
With Germany controlling Europe, the US would not have compaired. The United Staes would not have been able to take out Germany if it controlled Europe.
I agree completely, if not for the fact of their "brilliant" idea of trying to attack Russia in winter. They might've held the US off anyways.
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
With Germany controlling Europe, the US would not have compaired. The United Staes would not have been able to take out Germany if it controlled Europe.
America developed the A-Bomb and if they started to drop a few of them on main land Europe, Hitler would of had big problems due to the fact German scientists got there sums wrong and could never have built the bomb. Another possible situation would have been some sort of cold war?
Originally posted by Koenig
America developed the A-Bomb and if they started to drop a few of them on main land Europe, Hitler would of had big problems due to the fact German scientists got there sums wrong and could never have built the bomb. Another possible situation would have been some sort of cold war?
😂 There's no way we would have dropped an A-Bomb in Europe. We had way too many scattered allies over there. Too risky. Where as Asia, however...