Communism & Dictatorships

Originally posted by Fatal Smoke
Ok he is. I don't know how t describe what I am trying to say.. I meant he wasn't a fascist dictator.

Dare I say it....well....Stalin has some rather fascist ways to him....going by the Dictionary Definition: "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascist) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" ...he is kind of fascist....but masked as communism, if that helps you somehow...I mean..I understand Stalin is your idol....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dare I say it....well....Stalin has some rather fascist ways to him....going by the Dictionary Definition: "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascist) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" ...he is kind of fascist....but masked as communism, if that helps you somehow...I mean..I understand Stalin is your idol....

Yeah, I think fascist masked as communist pretty much explains it..

Pretty much. I can't believe Mussolini was a sex symbol. He looks like my cousin did at nine weeks, only Mussolini has a hat.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dare I say it....well....Stalin has some rather fascist ways to him....going by the Dictionary Definition: "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascist) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" ...he is kind of fascist....but masked as communism, if that helps you somehow...I mean..I understand Stalin is your idol....

Originally posted by Fatal Smoke
Good explanation, but stalin's not my hero.

Mine neither....

Originally posted by Fatal Smoke
Good explanation, but stalin's not my hero.

He ordered a lot of people killed...

He always striked me as an extreamly paranoid person...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
He ordered a lot of people killed...

He always striked me as an extreamly paranoid person...

well I suppose people with a lot of power have a lot of power to lose.....might make them more paranoid. Caesar on the other hand should have been more Paranoid.....

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
He ordered a lot of people killed...

He always striked me as an extreamly paranoid person...

Originally posted by Fatal Smoke
He makes Hitler look like a pussy when it comes to killing people.

Regardless, Hitler had the killing going quite good as well...

Originally posted by Bardock42
I heard once a very true word about that. "Stalin "only" killed his own people." I think that's actually why he got less recognition for it...

Regardless, Hitler had the killing going quite good as well...

Originally posted by Fatal Smoke
The killing his own people part is why he is looked upon as Fascist by many people.

I thought it was the whole being a dictator and full control and such bit...but whatever.

Hitler killed lots of people from other (non-german) countries...

Well, Stalin kind of did as well....thinking aboiut it...all the Polish people and such...hmm....

Originally posted by Bardock42
well I suppose people with a lot of power have a lot of power to lose.....might make them more paranoid. Caesar on the other hand should have been more Paranoid.....

Originally posted by Fatal Smoke
He makes Hitler look like a pussy when it comes to killing people.

It is said that around 29 million died under Hitler and some 40 million under Stalin.

Not sure if those are 100% correct, but it should be around there. The differance is hauge...

Perhaps Hitler is seen as way worse because he marganalised people whom he wanted to kill, while Stalin happinly didn't discriminate.

Stalin was like : ''You're an arsehole'' *kills*,
While Hitler was more like ''You're a Jew/black/disabled/rom/etc' *kills*

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
He ordered a lot of people killed...

He always striked me as an extreamly paranoid person...

He was. I read a book on him and the prewar period in Soviet Russia... He suffered from severe paranoia by all accounts.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I heard once a very true word about that. "Stalin "only" killed his own people." I think that's actually why he got less recognition for it...

Regardless, Hitler had the killing going quite good as well...

It does in a certain way make sense though. Eddie Izzard said something similar. 😄

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't know...
Im sure a lot Dictators felt paranoid, but something about Stalin just stands out when it comes to paranoia.

It is said that around 29 million died under Hitler and some 40 million under Stalin.

Not sure if those are 100% correct, but it should be around there. The differance is hauge...

Perhaps Hitler is seen as way worse because he marganalised people whom he wanted to kill, while Stalin happinly didn't discriminate.

Stalin was like : ''You're an arsehole'' *kills*,
While Hitler was more like ''You're a Jew/black/disabled/rom/etc' *kills*

29 million? Are you counting wartime deaths or just K-Z ones?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't know...
Im sure a lot Dictators felt paranoid, but something about Stalin just stands out when it comes to paranoia.

Hmm, maybe...damn, I thought there was someone much more notorious for paranoia.....I can't remember....maybe I'm just thinking of MacBeth....

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It is said that around 29 million died under Hitler and some 40 million under Stalin.

Not sure if those are 100% correct, but it should be around there. The differance is hauge...

Perhaps Hitler is seen as way worse because he marganalised people whom he wanted to kill, while Stalin happinly didn't discriminate.

Stalin was like : ''You're an arsehole'' *kills*,
While Hitler was more like ''You're a Jew/black/disabled/rom/etc' *kills*

I like the "own people" theory....I stick with it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It does in a certain way make sense though. Eddie Izzard said something similar. 😄

Hmm, I might have heard it there, I think I heard some Eddie Izzard recently....

Originally posted by Janus Marius
29 million? Are you counting wartime deaths or just K-Z ones?

K-Z? Forgive my ignorance...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
K-Z? Forgive my ignorance...

Concentration Camp ...it's short for "Konzentrationslager" (KZ).

Concentration camps. I understand that a figure of about 6 million jews was introduced... I don't think I remember one for others- political criminals, homosexuals, communists and so on. But the number or 29 million is very high. So is the 40 million for Stalin. I assume you're adding military deaths as well?