World War 3

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
all of the major powers depend on each other to much at this point for war to break out between them. As far as the looming future, I dont think the next war will be nuclear, but covert biological war fare. I for see countries being at war with one another without the general public even knowing it. Rash riseases and plagues will break out claiming the lives millions. This will either be spun as a new strain of some sort of radical infectious disease or blamed as bio warfare induced by terrorists when actaully it will be an oppsoing country of super power

Bio warfare like you are suggesting won't happen either. To dangerous, once it's found out by the nation that is attacked they would retaliate with all they have. The government wouldn't be able to hide a story like that. Nobody would. A war between superpowers will either be conventional weapons or full open nuclear. Nothing in between.

Most likely situation would be cold war like, where China would invade Taiwan, and the US would supply weapons and satalite images for Taiwan to use against China...

Where you can replace China America with each other and Taiwan by any country that you want.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
all of the major powers depend on each other to much at this point for war to break out between them. As far as the looming future, I dont think the next war will be nuclear, but covert biological war fare. I for see countries being at war with one another without the general public even knowing it. Rash riseases and plagues will break out claiming the lives millions. This will either be spun as a new strain of some sort of radical infectious disease or blamed as bio warfare induced by terrorists when actaully it will be an oppsoing country of super power

Originally posted by Fishy
Bio warfare like you are suggesting won't happen either. To dangerous, once it's found out by the nation that is attacked they would retaliate with all they have. The government wouldn't be able to hide a story like that. Nobody would. A war between superpowers will either be conventional weapons or full open nuclear. Nothing in between.

Most likely situation would be cold war like, where China would invade Taiwan, and the US would supply weapons and satalite images for Taiwan to use against China...

Where you can replace China America with each other and Taiwan by any country that you want.

I disagree with you, Fishy, which is rare.

RageRemorse, IMO, is a whole lot closer to a realistic war scenario actually happening. It could escalate out of hand and become out and out combat but that is unlikely...as long as there isn't a warmongering president in office.

I could foresee an all out war occurring with the current overly ambitious Chinese Government currently in place. I think China is faaar to aggressive and is pushing their "expansion and progress" ideals to hard. However, there is also a seed of kindness and passiveness that I get from the Military commissioner, Hu Jintao. He doesn't strike me as an overly zealous military leader...however, I do not know how much pull and actual control he has as the military commissioner.

I hope the China stops this "Genghis Khan" type of attitude that is trying to conquer the economic world; their ambition is worrisome, IMO.

Don't watch the news, it causes hysteria and paranoia making one to visit other threads where they do corpses.

[QUOTE=9511737]Originally posted by Fishy
Bio warfare like you are suggesting won't happen either. To dangerous, once it's found out by the nation that is attacked they would retaliate with all they have. The government wouldn't be able to hide a story like that. Nobody would. A war between superpowers will either be conventional weapons or full open nuclear. Nothing in between.

Most likely situation would be cold war like, where China would invade Taiwan, and the US would supply weapons and satalite images for Taiwan to use against China...

Where you can replace China America with each other and Taiwan by any country that you want. [/QUOTE

Even though i dont believe a war between top dog countries is any where in our near future. Economic tensions between nations have been on a steady ascent. I'm sorry, but i have to disagree with both your scenario and reply. Infecting a nation of people with a biological pathogen would be the easiest action for a fueding opponent to do. You could not trace such a thing either. All it would take is an infected host to mingle with the nations society, if you are dealing with some super strand that has no found cure as well as not being identified. you are talking about an entire country in panic, aquarentine and distress. Possible millions would die before a cure is found. The country who infact spread the pathogen could always play plausable deniability. We are in a cold war of types, this war doesnt involve plutonium, but rather one celled monsters.

I would think, that America would avoid all measures of going to war with China. Out economies depend one each other. Supplying a country that China is at war with, with weapons and intel is not something i could ever see America doing today. That is something that a country would trace, and the consequences for america would be detriment if China found out. They may not retaliate in the way of death, but cutting off trade is death for out economy. Granted, they need us as much as we need them, but China happens to be stubborn enough to do that. I dont think any country wants war, it will take alot for a conventional war to break out. You are right though, if a conventional war does ever occur between top nations, it will be quickly followed by nuclear war of some kind. War can be unpredictable and i dont know much so im not disclaiming anyones predicitons. I mean, the next war could be fought with robots, maybe thats why Japan is exploring hevily in human like robotronics lol

Even though i dont believe a war between top dog countries is any where in our near future. Economic tensions between nations have been on a steady ascent. I'm sorry, but i have to disagree with both your scenario and reply. Infecting a nation of people with a biological pathogen would be the easiest action for a fueding opponent to do. You could not trace such a thing either. All it would take is an infected host to mingle with the nations society, if you are dealing with some super strand that has no found cure as well as not being identified. you are talking about an entire country in panic, aquarentine and distress. Possible millions would die before a cure is found. The country who infact spread the pathogen could always play plausable deniability. We are in a cold war of types, this war doesnt involve plutonium, but rather one celled monsters.

Well that is true of course, it would be doable. The risks however would be enormous and a rumor of Chinese involvement spreading to the people in the US could create enough pressure on the government to actually start a war with China... Personally I just don't think anybody would want to risk it.

I would think, that America would avoid all measures of going to war with China. Out economies depend one each other. Supplying a country that China is at war with, with weapons and intel is not something i could ever see America doing today. That is something that a country would trace, and the consequences for america would be detriment if China found out. They may not retaliate in the way of death, but cutting off trade is death for out economy. Granted, they need us as much as we need them, but China happens to be stubborn enough to do that. I dont think any country wants war, it will take alot for a conventional war to break out. You are right though, if a conventional war does ever occur between top nations, it will be quickly followed by nuclear war of some kind. War can be unpredictable and i dont know much so im not disclaiming anyones predicitons. I mean, the next war could be fought with robots, maybe thats why Japan is exploring hevily in human like robotronics lol

Well I do think that a cold war sort of situation is far more likely then anything else. With China and the US standing right against each other trying to fight over the rest of the world, without ever fighting each other. For this to happen diplomatic tensions would already be there, trade would have already been cut off. But the chances of that happening in my opinion are quite small as well. We need each other at this moment the US needs China and China really needs the US. China has the power to destroy the US economically speaking but they don't have the power to survive the economic destruction of the US in a good shape.

Personally I think this at worst is going to be another big bluff war, between the US and China and the allies of the two nations. It could very easily escalate into many smaller conflicts over other country's, the Middle East being a prime target and perhaps South America and large parts of Asia but I just don't see an actual attack of any kind from one nation on the other happening. It would be suicide, the risks would be far to great.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
certain events in the past few weeks are rather worrying IMO, it would appear that the US & friends are gearing up for more war like activity.

# reports of nuclear bombs being "accidentally" transfered, which of course is impossible..

# Israel claims to have spotted a nuclear facility during fly overs of Syria, oh didn´t Iraq have these as well, look what happened to that.

# Syria said they shot AT a plane, but did not say WHY, and did not say what was bombed...... Israel said no comment.

# It was then confirmed Israel took military action, and admitted it had troops inside Syria at the time to direct the attack.

# apparently the Nuclear institution was supplied by North Korea.. and the base was funded by IRAN.

# Russia Detonates Largest Non Nuclear Weapon In History.
The United States detonated the then most powerful non nuclear weapon in history, the Mother of All Bombs RIGHT BEFORE the Iraq war, as a show of strength.
The new Russian Vacuum bomb is 4 times more powerful.

# On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command bases. The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide safety day. Did n´t Norad stand down before 9/11 attacks? or are they giving the pilots a break before they go on bombing runs.

Most countrys hate us now so I w ould not be surprise if we do have another war maybe with French or Germanly we shall see.jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Most countrys hate us now so I w ould not be surprise if we do have another war maybe with French or Germanly we shall see.jm

Yeah because it really is likely that France and Germany would attack the United States... Merkel has been talking about the fourth reich for months now. And we all know Sarkozy just claims he wants to improve France it's foreign relations, but in secret he just wants to nuke the rest of the world....

Originally posted by Fishy
Bio warfare like you are suggesting won't happen either. To dangerous, once it's found out by the nation that is attacked they would retaliate with all they have. The government wouldn't be able to hide a story like that. Nobody would. A war between superpowers will either be conventional weapons or full open nuclear. Nothing in between.

Most likely situation would be cold war like, where China would invade Taiwan, and the US would supply weapons and satalite images for Taiwan to use against China...

Where you can replace China America with each other and Taiwan by any country that you want.

Like in Afghanistan and Iraq, America supply the nationalist troops with weapons to fight the russians then end up ducking for cover when the spare RPG's come back in their direction.

Whenever did the they fight the Russians (soviet union ) in Iraq????

Originally posted by anaconda
Whenever did the they fight the Russians (soviet union ) in Iraq????

Never, America did supply both Iraq and Afghanistan with information and weapons however.

I reckon this is scaremongering, designed to re-unite the general public in the US, the UK etc and make them forget the last governmental credibility destroying 4 or 5 yrs......

A new bullshit threat that Neo-cons and Democrats alike can all fear together in harmony...
After all... they can't keep their oil-erm I mean war effort going for much longer in the current face of repeatedly deserved voter skepticism.

"Quick! Dig up the mass destruction threat thing again quickly!!! Before they kick our asses out of office!!!!!"

Fear Fear Fear!!!! Vote!!! Vote!!!! Vote!!!!!!!!!

2008 election rampup, anyone?

Is it approaching us?

Iran has threatened to bomb the US if they try to take out Iran's nuclear program... Iran, having one of the strongest forces in the world with China and the US... If the US gets attacked, then NATO will be called into play.. Forcing many countries into war, which will open fights from both sides.. etc etc.

Just discuss your ideas and such about World War 3, if you think it'll happen or not.

vincent

doesn't matter if i have an underground tunnel, where i can meet my friends in other countries who are also linked underground...the survivors will fend for themselves, and when we decide to pop back up, we'll be god-like status.

For all extents and purposes "World War 3" was fought in the Democratic Republic of Congo through the 90s, although without the direct involvement of the major world powers.

But no, Iran poses no threat to the world, with or without nuclear arms

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Iran, having one of the strongest forces in the world with China and the US...

where the hell did you pick that up from?

Isn't this like, last years news?

WWIII is always approaching. The combination of armies, moderately unstable leaders and powerful weapons makes it inevitable that someone will screw up and start something.

On another note I've always sort of wondered why people keep expecting WWIII to come when everyone's thinking "OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!" when WWs I and II started during tenuous peace rather during obvious active wars.

Originally posted by inimalist
But no, Iran poses no threat to the world, with or without nuclear arms

Unless they nuke somebody. I'm sure someone would find that threatening.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
doesn't matter if i have an underground tunnel, where i can meet my friends in other countries who are also linked underground...the survivors will fend for themselves, and when we decide to pop back up, we'll be god-like status.

Hope you're joking.

It's a really depressing thought, I wouldn't be suprised if this war suddenly errupted into WW3. I wouldn't be suprised if they brought back the draft either, and included women this time.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless they nuke somebody. I'm sure someone would find that threatening.

Iran is in no position to do that

while the crazy islamists who run the country and like to saber rattle will say things about israel and the holocaust to get international attention, I can't imagine the people of Tehran being in favor of their country starting a nuclear war. Tehran has the most plastic surgery done annually in the world 😉 take that hollywood.

The internal politics of Iran are so opposite the image we are given of them here. I'm not a defender of the Iranians by any means, but Mutual Assured Destruction still holds, and the Iranian people wouldn't support being the aggressors in a world conflict.

Originally posted by SelphieT
It's a really depressing thought, I wouldn't be suprised if this war suddenly errupted into WW3. I wouldn't be suprised if they brought back the draft either, and included women this time.

The nations of the middle east do not have the military power for this to be a "world war 3" scenario.

The draft would only be necessary if NATO got itself into too many wars of attrition against an asymmetrical enemy.

Originally posted by inimalist
Iran is in no position to do that

while the crazy islamists who run the country and like to saber rattle will say things about israel and the holocaust to get international attention, I can't imagine the people of Tehran being in favor of their country starting a nuclear war. Tehran has the most plastic surgery done annually in the world 😉 take that hollywood.

The internal politics of Iran are so opposite the image we are given of them here. I'm not a defender of the Iranians by any means, but Mutual Assured Destruction still holds, and the Iranian people wouldn't support being the aggressors in a world conflict.

IN WWI Austria Hungary went to war against Serbia because they thought that Serbia's allies would allow them to. Wars are not usually started by rational thought processes.