where do dinosaurs and cavemen fit into the bible, or does it?

Originally posted by Alliance
Religion give simper answers than science, but requires all this fantastical stuff to be true. It requirtes that you throw away logic and rationality

Science 's answer may not be complex or what you wnat it to be. But its fact. Plain and simple.

Yeah, its kind of tricky.

Originally posted by Alliance
Religion give simper answers than science, but requires all this fantastical stuff to be true. It requirtes that you throw away logic and rationality

Science 's answer may not be complex or what you wnat it to be. But its fact. Plain and simple.

So science keeps all logic? So science is the answer to all? Some sciencists believe in the theory of the Big Bang which in their point of view was the start of everything. But the question is; why did the Big Bang come about? What made the Big Bang happen? Sciencists can't seem to answer that question and thus the theory of the Big Bang must be false and yet many believe it and thus many sciencists throw away logic for this theory.

Others believe in Evolution and that man evolved from monkeys but a "missing link" cannot be found to back up this theory and thus cannot be true and yet scientists still believe that and so they must throw away logic.

And the def. for theory is: abstract thought or contemplation and they call them all theories because none of them are true and yet the Bible has never been proven false after 1500+ years even after millions among millions of people have tried to prove it false and some were some of the world's smartest minds.

Here's the thing; you call my ideas bias but I do research on both sides. If I make a claim about either side (religion or science) I try to find links and get the information needed to back up my claim. I never put something forth without proof.

You are the biased one for you have thrown away the Bible and called it foolish and only said what scientists have said and thus you are the one who is biased. So until you can provide me proof that the Bible is false you have no argument.

I have given proof from both science and the Bible that dinosaurs and man could and did live side by side in the days of old.

You're ignorant about what science is.

Science does have a monoploy on logic. YOu can choose to incorporate it into religon or you cna choose to ignore it, However, you DON'T have the right to pick and choose what you want when you want it. Its all fact or ignorant. There is nothing inconguous between science and religion's core. Its stupid people who set out to prove that 2000 year old fictional books are accurate that have issues with that.

Science searches for answers. NOT KNOWING IS OK. Scientific Theories are not made up. They are formulated based on evidence first. Without a lot of evidence, we're not going to guess. Which is infinately better that religious cr@p made up just to make people feel like they have all the answers.

The colloquial defintion for theory may be "abstract thought or contemplation" but a scientific Theory is a "description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation." Not the best definiton, but a Theory is not different from fact.

You clearly know nothing about science.

I have not seen you provide any proof whatsoever. You have demonstrated today that you have a very pourous sense of logic. You know nothing about me or who I am, so don't critique my religious life and my knwledge of your religion which is but one of many.

You have proved nothing at all, only that you have delusional interpretations about what science is and its role in society.

And, just refresh my memory, how many pillars does the earth rest on?

So science keeps all logic? So science is the answer to all? Some sciencists believe in the theory of the Big Bang which in their point of view was the start of everything. But the question is; why did the Big Bang come about? What made the Big Bang happen? Sciencists can't seem to answer that question and thus the theory of the Big Bang must be false and yet many believe it and thus many sciencists throw away logic for this theory.

Others believe in Evolution and that man evolved from monkeys but a "missing link" cannot be found to back up this theory and thus cannot be true and yet scientists still believe that and so they must throw away logic.

And the def. for theory is: abstract thought or contemplation and they call them all theories because none of them are true and yet the Bible has never been proven false after 1500+ years even after millions among millions of people have tried to prove it false and some were some of the world's smartest minds.

I have given proof from both science and the Bible that dinosaurs and man could and did live side by side in the days of old.

Thanks for cleaning up my post and filling in some holes.

The only reason we cant explain how the Big Bang happened is because it is Literally impossible to imagine nothing, since nothing does not include color, and Human Imagery is based on Color. The day our minds evolve to the ability to Imagine Nothing is the day Science can explain the creation of the Universe

D@mn im missing out in all the fun 🙁.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
So science keeps all logic? So science is the answer to all? Some sciencists believe in the theory of the Big Bang which in their

point of view was the start of everything. But the question is; why did the Big Bang come about? What made the Big Bang happen?

Sciencists can't seem to answer that question and thus the theory of the Big Bang must be false and yet many believe it and thus

many sciencists throw away logic for this theory.

There is a gap in scientific knowledge.
The gap is filled with acts of God
Therefore God exists

Try something better.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Others believe in Evolution and that man evolved from monkeys but a "missing link" cannot be found to back up this theory and thus

cannot be true and yet scientists still believe that and so they must throw away logic.

There is a gap in scientific knowledge.
The gap is filled with acts of God
Therefore God exists

Yep lets throw all anthropological, archaeological, genetic evidence etc. suggesting that man is indeed a product of evolution, down the crapper and BLINDLY accept that a supernatural God created man just because them silly evolutionists couldnt find that missing ape fossil.

Creationists are guilty of assuming that science is as STATIC as their religious beliefs. They assume that what we know today is the SUM TOTAL OF EVERYTHING there is to know about the natural world and that there wouldnt be anymore scientific breakthroughs forthcoming, therefore everything that COULD NOT BE EXPLAINED TODAY is explained as an act of God. Just when you thought the Middle Ages are done and over with.

Originally posted by ESB -1138

And the def. for theory is: abstract thought or contemplation and they call them all theories because none of them are true and

yet the Bible has never been proven false after 1500+ years even after millions among millions of people have tried to prove it false and some were some of the world's smartest minds.

OK now this is simply FLAT OUT WRONG. Methinks we should stop immersing ourselves with the teachings of pseudo-scientists (*cough*AnswersinGenesis*cough*) who are making a killing by feeding the non-discriminating faithful with lies, untested dicoveries and scientific half truths. Apparently a lot of (fundamentalist) Christians are willing to pay good money to ANYONE that could show that their cherished creation myth still matters.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Here's the thing; you call my ideas bias but I do research on both sides. If I make a claim about either side (religion or science) I try to find links and get the information needed to back up my claim. I never put something forth without proof.

You are the biased one for you have thrown away the Bible and called it foolish and only said what scientists have said and thus you are the one who is biased. So until you can provide me proof that the Bible is false you have no argument.

I have given proof from both science and the Bible that dinosaurs and man could and did live side by side in the days of old.

Oh flark not Flood Geology again!

You know its funny that Mosasaurs and other marine dinosaurs DIED OUT in Noah's Great Flood given their adaptation to an aquatic habitat.

😆 Thanks Temp.

The only reason we cant explain how the Big Bang happened is because it is Literally impossible to imagine nothing, since nothing does not include color, and Human Imagery is based on Color. The day our minds evolve to the ability to Imagine Nothing is the day Science can explain the creation of the Universe

your heart's in the right place........but according to M theory, which is looking pretty good right now...........wrong. We could definetly tell how the big bang of our universe happened.....the collision of other universes.

Still i don't think M-Theory is the only viable Theory out there at this time.

As to the flood

Evidences and Reconciliations - John A. Widtsoe
The coming of the flood and its extent and duration, are described in the seventh chapter of the Book of Genesis. The account states that "the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered." (Genesis 7:19-20)
A cubit, an ancient and well-known measure of length, is the distance from a man's elbow to the end of his middle finger. The Egyptians fixed the length of a cubit as 20.61 of our inches; the Greeks, 18:25 inches; the Romans, 17.4 inches; the Hebrews, 17.58 inches; and the English, 18 inches. The variation is small, from eighteen to less than twenty-one inches.
If we employ the largest of these values, 20.61 inches, fifteen cubits would be something less than twenty-six-feet. This, then, was the depth of the flood, according to Genesis.

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The fact remains that the exact nature of the flood is not known. We set up assumptions, based upon our best knowledge, but can go no further. We should remember that when inspired writers deal with historical incidents they relate that which they have seen or that which may have been told them, unless indeed the past is opened to them by revelation.
The details in the story of the flood are undoubtedly drawn from the experiences of the writer. Under a downpour of rain, likened to the opening of the heavens, a destructive torrent twenty-six feet deep or deeper would easily be formed. The writer of Genesis made a faithful report of the facts known to him concerning the flood. In other localities the depth of the water might have been more or less. In fact, the details of the flood are not known to us.
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And Mormon advice on reading and interpretation:

Evidences and Reconciliations - John A. Widtsoe
Many Bible accounts that trouble the inexperienced reader become clear and acceptable if the essential meaning of the story is sought out. To read the Bible fairly, it must be read as President Brigham Young suggested: "Do you read the scriptures, my brethren and sisters, as though you were writing them a thousand, two thousand, or five thousand years ago? Do you read them as though you stood in the place of the men who wrote them?" (Discourses of Brigham Young, pp. 197, 198). This is our guide. The scriptures must be read intelligently.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
I have given proof from both science and the Bible that dinosaurs and man could and did live side by side in the days of old.

And I can back up that proof, just look at the evidence! 🙄

(One Million Years BC... Rachael Welch aws frikken smoking in this)

Originally posted by Robtard
Originally posted by ESB -1138
I have given proof from both science and the Bible that dinosaurs and man could and did live side by side in the days of old.

And I can back up that proof, just look at the evidence! 🙄

(One Million Years BC... Rachael Welch aws frikken smoking in this)

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Originally posted by Alliance
You're ignorant about what science is.

Science does have a monoploy on logic. YOu can choose to incorporate it into religon or you cna choose to ignore it, However, you DON'T have the right to pick and choose what you want when you want it. Its all fact or ignorant. There is nothing inconguous between science and religion's core. Its stupid people who set out to prove that 2000 year old fictional books are accurate that have issues with that.

Science searches for answers. NOT KNOWING IS OK. Scientific Theories are not made up. They are formulated based on evidence first. Without a lot of evidence, we're not going to guess. Which is infinately better that religious cr@p made up just to make people feel like they have all the answers.

The colloquial defintion for theory may be "abstract thought or contemplation" but a scientific Theory is a "description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation." Not the best definiton, but a Theory is not different from fact.

You clearly know nothing about science.

I have not seen you provide any proof whatsoever. You have demonstrated today that you have a very pourous sense of logic. You know nothing about me or who I am, so don't critique my religious life and my knwledge of your religion which is but one of many.

You have proved nothing at all, only that you have delusional interpretations about what science is and its role in society.

And, just refresh my memory, how many pillars does the earth rest on?

Well put... And if I recall correctly, it's four pillars that hold up the earth. 😉

😆 Thank you...and yes you are correct. A+!

Originally posted by Alliance
😆 Thank you...and yes you are correct. A+!

It has to be correct, it's in the bible...

DUH!