An unpublished thesis 😉
It is not related to my field of research which is psychology so I can't gain anything by using it. Its not really complete anyway, but it summarizes and rationalizes the ancient world for me. Studying archaeology and the ancient world is a pastime of mine. I actually did most of my research when I wasn't a Christian.
It revolves purely around theories based on the existence of Atlantis before the flood. It is based on the fact that it would take modern man 600 years to build the great pyramid of Egypt even if built at an incredible pace. The incredible cities of the ancient world defy modern explanation.
Here's a picture of Copan, a Mayan city:
http://www.southamericanfiesta.com/destinations/honduras/images/copan.jpg
Here's a picture inside one of the temples:
http://www.bennerwc.com/ancientman/03_maya.html
If you look at it you will plainly see a man with hands on controls, his feet on pedals, in a rocket ship with flame coming from the engine at the bottom. Man used to able fly thousands of years ago. I find this mind boggling.
I see you have a penchant for absurd ideas.
I'd like do see you guys fly with wings and donated bird feathers.
Antlantis is a myth and while its FASCINATING to believe in myths, when it comes down to it...they are still just myths.
I can't see the picture that well, I'll look for another one.
ANcient technology was amazing, the Romans had steam power, glass windows, the Aztecs had quartz lenses...many cool things existed, that doesnt mean that we should go on a speculation spree.
The thesis sounds weak. Pyrimids likly were built faster than 600 years. And a tru thesis would never be based on a myth (BASED ON, not have a myth as its main subject matter). YOu cant base intellectual analysis on fiction.
Continuing the dinosaur debate:
Job 41:1-34
Can thou draw out leviathan with a hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? Can thou put a hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a horn? Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto three? Will he make a covenant with three? will thou take him for a servant for ever?
Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? Can thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? Lay thine hand upon him, resmember the battle, do no more.
Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall no one be cast down even at the sight of him? None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me? Who has prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion. Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle? Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about. His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundred. By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils gos smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth. In his neck remains strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him. The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of nether millstone. When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
The sword ot him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon. He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. Darts are counted as stubble: he laughs at the shaking of a spear. Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
He makes the deep to boil like a pot: he makes the sea like a pot of ointment. He makes a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. Upon earth there is not his life, who is made without fear. He beholds all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
Many references (we have not listed them all) refer to the sea, so Leviathan is probably a sea creature. Although some bibles refer to Leviathan as an alligator or crocodile (and both of these are fierce) neither of these is a sea creature. They like the water, but they spend much of their time on land. Further, the question “Who can open the doors of his face. . . .” implies that nobody can open Leviathan’s jaws. Although an alligator's jaws cannot normally be forced open, a punch to their sensitive snout or poke in eye might startle them enough to release their grip. Although this is a good description of an alligator characteristic, it does not fit perfectly with the description of Leviathan, which in the context of the Bible was supposed to describe an essentially impossible event, and we are not done yet.
The description of the scales is interesting. Several verses describe these great scales. Compared to Leviathan’s armor, iron is like straw and arrows ca not make it flee. Let’s face it, an arrow can do a lot of damage to a crocodile or alligator. This is not a description of either of them—or any living animal we are aware of.
And now for the key ingredient: fire. It is hard to read Job 41:18-21 without realizing the Bible is telling us that Leviathan breathes fire. That alone will eliminate almost every living animal. Yes, there is one animal like that in today’s world. It is called a bombardier beetle. This beetle is a native of Central America, and has a nozzle in its hind end that acts like a little flame thrower. It sprays a high-temperature jet of gas (fueled by hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide with oxidative enzymes) for protection. Now, if a Central American beetle can do it, so could Leviathan. By the way, crocodiles and alligators are out of the picture on this one, don’t you agree?
The history of every culture is filled with stories of fire-breathing dragons. If you think about it, in all the past ages wouldn’t someone have made up a story of a fire-breathing lion or something? Nobody did because the dragon stories are based on truth, and only “dragons” breathed fire. It is easy to imagine Leviathan as a member of the dragon (tanniyn) family. (Plus, Isaiah 27:1 strongly implies this connection.)
Many fossil dinosaur skulls contain unexplained, empty passages. Scientists have not been able to guess the reason for these passages. Would it make sense that some dinosaurs used these passages as “gas tanks” for the combustible mixture used to “breathe fire?” We believe it does.
Comparing all this information to the description in your dinosaur book, you may come up with the conclusion that Leviathan is a kronosaurus. We have heard (and read) other suggestions, but the kronosaurus is the best match of any known creature to the description of Leviathan.
Levianthans are usually thouguht of as sea "creatures."
1. Myths can spread. Dragons could be so terrifying that traveelers would pass them on as bedtime stories. And your term "dragon" is a strech. I can't believe that every culture has a dragon. What about native americans? What about Africans? People outside of the amil loop of the the Erasian trade routes.
2. Skull passages coul be for other things, just because you think that they could do this, doesnt mean they could. There are likely millions of other Hypotheses in addition to yours.
3. Explaining one dinosoar doesnt explain many. Don't you think people would have observed different types?
4. If there were dinosaurs, where are they now? How come human and dinosaur bones have not been found together?
1. Myths can spread. Dragons could be so terrifying that traveelers would pass them on as bedtime stories. And your term "dragon" is a strech. I can't believe that every culture has a dragon. What about native americans? What about Africans? People outside of the amil loop of the the Erasian trade routes.
Before their could be contact with Mexico, Japan, and China they all had dragons. The ancient Aztec who had no contact with the east had dragons. Eskimos had dragons in their culture. Almost every ancient culture had some type of dragon. Dragons were terrifying creatures.
2. Skull passages coul be for other things, just because you think that they could do this, doesnt mean they could. There are likely millions of other Hypotheses in addition to yours.
And so far none has been proven true. I on the other hand can back up my word with science.
If the dragon had a second pair of lungs so they can produce helium they would be able to have enough of a lift for some to fly and others to be able to breath fire. All they needed was a second pair of lungs. Just watch "Dragons" on animal planet; they explain it in a way that seem to fit them perfectly.
3. Explaining one dinosoar doesnt explain many. Don't you think people would have observed different types?
And I have shown 2 different types. The Bible mentions Dragons 21 times alone and they also use other words for them: Leviathan, Behemoth, Unicorn, and Tanniyn.
4. If there were dinosaurs, where are they now? How come human and dinosaur bones have not been found together?
God's ultimate plan if for man. Dinosaurs did not fit in with his plans. Where would they fit in today? And who is to say that no human remains were ever found around or near Dinosaur bones. People tend to make bigger deals about Dinosaur bones then humans.
And another thing; Dinosaurs were the biggest creatures on earth. They were made without fear. They are the chief ways among God. I doubt any human would dare approach one.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Before their could be contact with Mexico, Japan, and China they all had dragons. The ancient Aztec who had no contact with the east had dragons. Eskimos had dragons in their culture. Almost every ancient culture had some type of dragon. Dragons were terrifying creatures.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
And so far none has been proven true. I on the other hand can back up my word with science.If the dragon had a second pair of lungs so they can produce helium they would be able to have enough of a lift for some to fly and others to be able to breath fire. All they needed was a second pair of lungs. Just watch "Dragons" on animal planet; they explain it in a way that seem to fit them perfectly.
Don't make up fake reasons to justify your sensationalism.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
And I have shown 2 different types. The Bible mentions Dragons 21 times alone and they also use other words for them: Leviathan, Behemoth, Unicorn, and Tanniyn.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
God's ultimate plan if for man. Dinosaurs did not fit in with his plans. Where would they fit in today? And who is to say that no human remains were ever found around or near Dinosaur bones. People tend to make bigger deals about Dinosaur bones then humans.
Oh really? if your god has such a great plan...why were they made in the first place? Dinosoaur bones have not been founf with human bones.
Really, would you like to back up that claim?
Aztec
And it was said that the "God" was a dragon: Quetzalcoatl
China
Japan
Africa
List:
Romanian: balau
Germanic: lindworm
Salvic: zmaj
Tatar: Zilant
Chuvash: Vere Celen
Welsh: Y Ddraig Goch
You're a fool to claim you use science.
Helium is a toxic gas and idont know of any other anatomical system in nature that produces Helium let alone stores it.
Don't make up fake reasons to justify your sensationalism.
Possible because of a paired flight bladders, filled with hydrogen produced by the activity of symbiotic bacteria within the dragon's guy. Also, a dragon's bones may not have been solid but were honeycombed with gas spaces, rather like the hollow bones of modern birds. This would reduce the weight of the skeleton without sacrificing strength, a necessary adaptation to fligh.
Accumulation of hydrogen within the flight bladders meant that the dragons could increase in volume quite rapidly as the bladders expanded: the dragons could also contact the bladders by venting gass, perhaphs as a means of controlling altitude, or by combusion during fire-breathing.
Fire-breathing in dragons were based on production of copious amounts of combustible gas, principally hydrogen. The hydrogen could have been produced by bacteria resident in the dragon's gut: all verebrates have an abundant gut flora, often crucial to difestion and other physiological functions.
Oh whoopee!. There are many more types that look VERY different. Any fool could classify them differently. I'm sorry, but your evidence falls way short.
And you provided no proof.
Oh really? if your god has such a great plan...why were they made in the first place? Dinosoaur bones have not been founf with human bones.
Why would humans go near dinosaurs? It has been said that only their creator dares approach them.
All you proved with those pictures is that snakes existed in every culture. Good job.
First its helium, now its hydrogen, you clearly have broblems with your facts. If dragon bones are lightweight like those of birds, how come most dinosaur bones are not? It seems you have issues.
You can rationalize a mechanism all you want. Orgnaic combustion is possible. However, much like problems in Cinderella, your shoe does not fit the foot.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
And you provided no proof.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Why would humans go near dinosaurs? It has been said that only their creator dares approach them.
Originally posted by Alliance
All you proved with those pictures is that snakes existed in every culture. Good job.First its helium, now its hydrogen, you clearly have broblems with your facts. If dragon bones are lightweight like those of birds, how come most dinosaur bones are not? It seems you have issues.
You can rationalize a mechanism all you want. Orgnaic combustion is possible. However, much like problems in Cinderella, your shoe does not fit the foot.
I'm not the one making sensationalist claims. You prove positives not otherwise.
This doesn't answer my question at all. It doesnt even address it.
Why would they all call their dragons something different if they were snakes?
