Thor with belt of strenght but no hammer vs Hulk

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Why not? He's won five times so far.

Hulk has beaten Thor five times? He has certainly shown he was more savage in his attacks, more willing to kill, but in all of Hulk-Thor history, never has the Hulk been shown to physically over power Thor. Even in the story you provided, Hulk practically ambushed Thor after they crossed over to this dimension after having been soundly beaten in the other dimension. In all the fights (save one), what we do see is a Thor who repeatedly gains the advantage but fails to strike the killing blow. The one exception being the story where Thor decided that they were too closely matched physically and had no choice but to kill the Hulk in order to win, and, of course, he did so quite easily in the end.

On the other hand, we see what Thor can really do in the Blood and Thunder series when with no "belt of strength" or other augmentation, solely under his own power, he takes people as strong or stronger than the Hulk (like BRB, Silver Surfer, Maxam and Power Gem boosted Drax) and treats them with utter disdain.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Hulk has beaten Thor five times? He has certainly shown he was more savage in his attacks, more willing to kill, but in all of Hulk-Thor history, never has the Hulk been shown to physically over power Thor. Even in the story you provided, Hulk practically ambushed Thor after they crossed over to this dimension after having been soundly beaten in the other dimension. In all the fights (save one), what we do see is a Thor who repeatedly gains the advantage but fails to strike the killing blow. The one exception being the story where Thor decided that they were too closely matched physically and had no choice but to kill the Hulk in order to win, and, of course, he did so quite easily in the end.

On the other hand, we see what Thor can really do in the Blood and Thunder series when with no "belt of strength" or other augmentation, solely under his own power, he takes people as strong or stronger than the Hulk (like BRB, Silver Surfer, Maxam and Power Gem boosted Drax) and treats them with utter disdain.

Amen in every way 👆 ✅

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Hulk has beaten Thor five times? He has certainly shown he was more savage in his attacks, more willing to kill, but in all of Hulk-Thor history, never has the Hulk been shown to physically over power Thor. Even in the story you provided, Hulk practically ambushed Thor after they crossed over to this dimension after having been soundly beaten in the other dimension. In all the fights (save one), what we do see is a Thor who repeatedly gains the advantage but fails to strike the killing blow. The one exception being the story where Thor decided that they were too closely matched physically and had no choice but to kill the Hulk in order to win, and, of course, he did so quite easily in the end.

On the other hand, we see what Thor can really do in the Blood and Thunder series when with no "belt of strength" or other augmentation, solely under his own power, he takes people as strong or stronger than the Hulk (like BRB, Silver Surfer, Maxam and Power Gem boosted Drax) and treats them with utter disdain.

The official score is 5-2 in favour of Hulk.

But in one of the confrontations, Thor went all out against the mindless Hulk, which resulted in a stalemate. As do most of their fights except a few:

Ofcourse, Thor got up pretty soon afterwards. He is a god, after all. But still, he got smacked around pretty badly. Btw, the fight before this one went to Thor.

Also pretty cool:

Amusingly, Thor had succumbed to the Warrior's Madness for this fight and went berserk on Young Maestro. Eventually, YM had to save him by "punching him away from groundzero". YM took the full force of Thor and used it.

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Ofcourse, Thor practically raped Professor Hulk to no end. But then again, he is pretty much everybody's *****

Oh and yes, I guess you could say Hulk took Thor by surprise. But using lightning bolts in the middle of a physical fight is lower on the ladder, in my book.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
The official score is 5-2 in favour of Hulk.

But in one of the confrontations, Thor [B]went all out against the mindless Hulk, which resulted in a stalemate. As do most of their fights except a few:

Ofcourse, Thor got up pretty soon afterwards. He is a god, after all. But still, he got smacked around pretty badly. Btw, the fight before this one wen to Thor.

Also pretty cool:

Amusingly, Thor had succumbed to the Warrior's Madness for this fight and went berserk on Young Maestro. Eventually, YM had to save him by "punching him away from groundzero". YM took the full force of Thor and used it.

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Ofcourse, Thor practically raped Professor Hulk to no end. But then again, he is pretty much everybody's *****

Oh and yes, I guess you could say Hulk took Thor by surprise. But using lightning bolts in the middle of a physical fight is lower in the ladder, in my book. [/B]

We have sed many times that Thor doesnt want to kill Hulk he like Banner quite a bit......But as Hulk he doesnt care about hurting Thor also Thor wouldnt hurt the innocent that is normally surrounding there fights............ read before u post

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Why not? He's won five times so far.

can you name the issues where he's won?

Originally posted by leonidas
can you name the issues where he's won?

Define "won"? As in "Lights out, mr puny Thundergod!"? Or "See ya, must be going now, have fun digging yourself out!"?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Define "won"? As in "Lights out, mr puny Thundergod!"? Or "See ya, must be going now, have fun digging yourself out!"?

How about as in "I killed you even though you had help and I was missing an arm you lumbering beast".

Originally posted by aliveinboston
How about as in "I killed you even though you had help and I was missing an arm you lumbering beast".

Did that happen in a "What If" or something?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Define "won"? As in "Lights out, mr puny Thundergod!"? Or "See ya, must be going now, have fun digging yourself out!"?

i'll suffer whatever definition you used to define his five wins. what issues were you referring to?

The guy who put this site together shows them all. He's very biased when it comes to Thor vs Hulk, and doesn't look at all the angles.
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/subby35-thor.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/thor385.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk440.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-1.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-3.html

Thor wins:
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/thor489.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-2.html

Notice how Hulk has to have the "upper hand" to win, yet Thor has to KO him. Yeah. Makes plenty of sense. 🙄

Originally posted by Dayscribe
The guy who put this site together shows them all. He's very biased when it comes to Thor vs Hulk, and doesn't look at all the angles.
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/subby35-thor.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/thor385.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk440.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-1.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-3.html

Thor wins:
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/thor489.html

http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-2.html

Notice how Hulk has to have the "upper hand" to win, yet Thor has to KO him. Yeah. Makes plenty of sense. 🙄

exactly and in almost all of them Hulk snuck a punch or he was mad because Thor was trying to calm him down and talk to him because he doesnt want to hurt him in one of those Thor even apologized because he had to KO Hulk I mean he really like Banner there good freinds

yeah, slightly biased. in that same 2001 annual thor alos put hulk down a couple times. funny how those don't count for thor . . .

w/o hammer, imo hulk will usually win if he's done well. w/belt it would be interesting. i really don't know. hulk would increase almost immediately after being struck once, but could he match him fast enough, i'm not sure. theoretically i'd say yes, but given how even they've been shown to be without the belt, i don't think it bodes too well for hulk. current hulk would likely get stomped. classic savage would still be a great fight imo.

thor using all his powers kills hulk any and everytime.

Originally posted by Dayscribe
The guy who put this site together shows them all. He's very biased when it comes to Thor vs Hulk, and doesn't look at all the angles.
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/subby35-thor.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/thor385.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk440.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-1.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-3.html

Thor wins:
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/thor489.html
http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk2001-2.html

Notice how Hulk has to have the "upper hand" to win, yet Thor has to KO him. Yeah. Makes plenty of sense. 🙄

I agree that he isn't completely unbiased. But it's sort of a step up from most other fan sites. Hulk or not. And thor didn't have to KO Hulk to win, he just did. Had he just temporarily stopped Hulk like Hulk did Thor, it would've been enough. Because let's face it, 8/10 Hulk-thor fights end in either a draw or one of the two hitting the curb while the other one leaves. So I think this guy isn't being unreasonable to Thor.

I'll just say this...thor cannot win unless he uses his command over the elements...even if thor is beefed up, he better ko hulk early and i mean sucker punch him as soon as he turns into hulk, cuz i don't think even a beefed up thor can take hulk in a brawl...hulk should not be beaten by physical force...

keep trollin...trollin..trollin...

Originally posted by jgiant
I'll just say this...thor cannot win unless he uses his command over the elements...even if thor is beefed up, he better ko hulk early and i mean sucker punch him as soon as he turns into hulk, cuz i don't think even a beefed up thor can take hulk in a brawl...hulk should not be beaten by physical force...

shouldn't and what happens in comics are 2 different things, jg. titannus recently comes to mind. and as much as i cry PIS as well, i still happened.

even dr samson could ko hulk who is class 75 and he is nowhere t thor who's strenght is now doubled

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
even dr samson could ko hulk who is class 75 and he is nowhere t thor who's strenght is now doubled

So what's the point? How many things in comic are consistent. Hulk get knock out by lightning bolt is possible; so isn't hulk taken a full blast from galaxy master without going down.

Even without the hammer, Thor can still summon the "God blast." He could simply blast Hulk the hell away.

Originally posted by batdude123
Even without the hammer, Thor can still summon the "God blast." He could simply blast Hulk the hell away.

Now this i did not know; where and when was this established?