Originally posted by batdude123dudes reach was too much LOL
YouTube video
he does this regularly or is this just an example of a rare instance where something spectacular happens?
Originally posted by StyleTimehow do you know bruce never did that any time in his life?
All of these guys have had recent fights dude. You should check them out. I know you like flashy stuff and a few of them have awesome finishes.That is shit Bruce Lee dreamed about doing and never actually did a single time in his life.
that isnt even remotely hard to do...
your opponent just has to be such a bad fighter to actually let it connect
Originally posted by batdude123
Alexander Gustafsson looked very impressive last night.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
how do you know bruce never did that any time in his life?that isnt even remotely hard to do...
your opponent just has to be such a bad fighter to actually let it connect
Spinning around with your leg up is easy, yes. Knocking out a trained, high level fighter with it is a different story. If you don't think that kick was impressive, then.....lol.
That is wrong in this instance. Barboza spent the previous 3 rounds conditioning Etim to other attacks. When Barboza decided to throw the spin kick, Etim was clearly expected something lower; hence, Etim protecting his body. It wasn't the product of a flash KO from the start of the fight. It wasn't the product of a bad opponent. It was the product of a good plan from a good fighter.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
dudes reach was too much LOLhe does this regularly or is this just an example of a rare instance where something spectacular happens?
I mean, this is real life, so no, not every fight is going to look like a Kung Fu movie.
Anthony Pettis is a human high-light reel though.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
your opponent just has to be such a bad fighter to actually let it connect
Come on, bruh.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I missed the other fight unfortunately, but Gustafsson did look good. People are already speculating about Jones vs Gustaffson but I am just not seeing it right now.
It'd be very interesting to say the least. Both are tall, rangy fighters. I'd definitely give the striking edge to Gustafsson. The obvious wrestling/grappling advantage would have to go to Jones. I think Jones would win though. I doubt Gustafsson is ready for Jones' wrestling at this point. Gustafsson's potential is through the roof though. Just like Jones, he keeps getting better every time we see him. If Gustafsson beats a top 5 opponent, I'd love to see a Gustafsson/Jones match.
Originally posted by StyleTime
That is wrong in this instance. Barboza spent the previous 3 rounds conditioning Etim to other attacks. When Barboza decided to throw the spin kick, Etim was clearly expected something lower; hence, Etim protecting his body. It wasn't a product of a bad opponent. It was a product of a good plan from a good fighter.
Why are you even dignifying that with an actual response?
Originally posted by batdude123then WTF did you post a vid of that guy for I clearly said i want to see some up & coming good strikers & you post a vid of a spectacular win
I mean, this is real life, so no, not every fight is going to look like a Kung Fu movie.Anthony Pettis is a human high-light reel though.
Come on, bruh.
when did I say I wanted kung fu fights dumb dumb good strikers.
the fight itself wasn't much of a win thus why I said
dudes reach is too muchhe was clearly the better fighter & even more so physically appeared to be in better shape & long bodied.
you need to understand the difference between a good strikers & spectacular win.
a spinning back kick aimed at a head is risky as shit everyone knows that & very easy to evade/counter if you get caught by those you're automatically a shit fighter IMO
Originally posted by StyleTimeyou've never proved he didn't 😐
I missed the other fight unfortunately, but Gustafsson did look good. People are already speculating about Jones vs Gustaffson but I am just not seeing it right now.He never proved he did?
Spinning around with your leg up is easy, yes. Knocking out a trained, high level fighter with it is a different story.
That is wrong in this instance. Barboza spent the previous 3 rounds conditioning Etim to other attacks. When Barboza decided to throw the spin kick, Etim was clearly expected something lower; hence, Etim protecting his body. It wasn't the product of a flash KO from the start of the fight. It wasn't the product of a bad opponent. It was the product of a good plan from a good fighter.
which nobody has...
which goes back to you first claiming he never has without a full length video of his entire life & in said vid showing him never do that
Originally posted by batdude123
It'd be very interesting to say the least. Both are tall, rangy fighters. I'd definitely give the striking edge to Gustafsson. The obvious wrestling/grappling advantage would have to go to Jones. I think Jones would win though. I doubt Gustafsson is ready for Jones' wrestling at this point. Gustafsson's potential is through the roof though. Just like Jones, he keeps getting better every time we see him. If Gustafsson beats a top 5 opponent, I'd love to see a Gustafsson/Jones match.
Originally posted by batdude123
Why are you even dignifying that with an actual response?
Mindset's influence over the masses is just too strong. I.....I just.... I don't know what to do anymore.
Terry Etim
12 wins submissions
2 Kos
4 Losses
thats a high level fighter? 😐
his stats clearly show he has no stand up game whatsoever
as long as a fighter can keep the fight standing the things they can do to him are endless.
edson barboza.
kickboxing record shows a lengthy fighting knowledge prior to his current organization
25 wins
3 losses
great striker
his switch to MMA would only require extensive training on grapple/ submission defence.
MMA record
7 wins
0 Losses...
in other words that match could have easily been called even the finish 😆
Great striker developing takedown defence vs guy with no hands whatsoever who only relies on grappling & submissions/ typical MMA fighter
smh... ❌
ya'll so MMA brainwashed
Yes but even someone with good wrestling defence can still be taken down by a great/better wrestler. With fear of take down striking in MMA is very different from other things that just have striking. Wresting and BJJ can be sued for the clinch, for takedown/takedown defence, for ground control and submission, as wlel as clinch and ground stirking, and keeping striker tentative while wrestler/bjj does not have to worry about takedown as much and focus all ons tirking/risky striking. Striker has to strike from range to avoid clinch, cnanot fully commit for fear of takedown. Look at champions: Jon Jones, Geogre St Pierre, benson Hendertson, Dominick Cruz. 4 Wrestlers. Strikers that are champions all have legendary takedown defence (hose aldo and junior dos santos) or anderson silva who has been fed poor wrestlers and is going to soon be beaten by Chael Sonnen, a wrestler. Recent previous champions: Cain velasquez, Brock Lenar, Shogun Rua, Lyoto Machida, Frankie Edgar. 3 wrestlers, one striker with legendary takedown defence, one striker with world class jiujitsu. Number 1 contenders: Frank Mir, Rashad Evans/Dan Henderson, Chael Sonnen, Carlos Condit, Hatsu Hioki, Urijah Faber. All grapplers but Carlos Condit, who is fristand formost and stirker but also a submission specialist. C;early grapplers>>>Strikers, bro.
You say striker only needs training and not backroung in grappling defence and he beats someone with grappling background who only have trianing in stirking... well that is clearly wrong duh. Chael beats Anderson in rematch proves you wrong alone, plus Jon Jones outstrikes strikers almost entirely because they afraid of his takedown. And Rousimar Palhares makes other strikers fear him because he is going to go home with one of their limbs with him.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
you've never proved he didn't 😐
the burden of proof would be on the person who said he did.which nobody has...
which goes back to you first claiming he never has without a full length video of his entire life & in said vid showing him never do that
It's the same as saying he can't fly. He can't.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Terry Etim
12 wins submissions
2 Kos
4 Losses
thats a high level fighter? 😐ya'll so MMA brainwashed
Your desire to discredit MMA at every turn clouds your vision.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
all I asked for was some recommendations on good up & coming strikers but ending having to debate strikers vs grapplers & bruce lee -_-typical ignorant MMA fans
When I mentioned Bruce Lee to you initially, I was mostly just joking around with you. Then you act like landing a spinning wheel kick KO on a professional fighter is an easy feat. I hope I don't sound mean, but saying stuff like that makes you look ignorant. Not us.
Originally posted by Padawan Obi-WanI said due to his hands already being great he would only need to work on grappling & submission defence STFU idiot
You say striker only needs training and not backroung in grappling defence and he beats someone with grappling background who only have trianing in stirking... well that is clearly wrong duh. Chael beats Anderson in rematch proves you wrong alone, plus Jon Jones outstrikes strikers almost entirely because they afraid of his takedown. And Rousimar Palhares makes other strikers fear him because he is going to go home with one of their limbs with him.
hate when random ppl hop in conversations & dont read the conversation
Originally posted by StyleTime
You don't understand how argument formation works. You can't prove a negative. If Bruce never proved he could, we assume he could not.It's the same as saying he can't fly. He can't.
A high level fighter can lose to a superior fighter. A high level fighter isn't necessarily the best fighter. Etim is a professional with only 4 losses over 19 fights. He has only been KO'd once and even has KO wins himself. Yes, he is a high level fighter.
Your desire to discredit MMA at every turn clouds your vision.
We're more than willing to work with you, but you've mostly spouted uninformed opinions based on your backwards view that fights should look like Jet Li movies.
When I mentioned Bruce Lee to you initially, I was mostly just joking around with you. Then you act like landing a spinning wheel kick KO on a professional fighter is an easy feat. I hope I don't sound mean, but saying stuff like that makes you look ignorant. Not us.
Terry Etim is no high level fighter hes a level moderate level grappler.
gotta remember all his wins (not that many at all) weren't all against good fighters. most MMA fighters records resemble his or they risk getting dropped.
when the **** i say anything about kung fu movies fukkin idiots
you brought up bruce lee for god knows what
& bat brought up kung fu for whatever reason.
all I asked for was good new strikers to get me back into MMA derp derp derp.
typical MMA fans
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
any striker prospects to get me back into MMA?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Edson Barboza, Alistair Overeem (may not be with us much longer), Michael Bisping, Machida, Anthony Njokuani, Jr. Dos Santos.....I don't feel like naming more right now, but there's plenty of strikers out there.
Is the lack of Bruce Lee style one-inch punches not to your liking?
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
?prospects as in up & coming / new
these fighters have been around a long time. so i've seen all their fights
I wish their were some bruce lees to breath some life into the boring ass wrestling matches formerly known as MMA
grappling is hella effective but unbearably boring.
whenever I cant find my tylenol PM I just watch UFC/Strikeforce seeing as its just as effective
Originally posted by StyleTime
All of these guys have had recent fights dude. You should check them out. I know you like flashy stuff and a few of them have awesome finishes.That is shit Bruce Lee dreamed about doing and never actually did a single time in his life.
look at that shit
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Terry Etim is no high level fighter hes a level moderate level grappler. gotta remember all his wins (not that many at all) weren't all against good fighters. most MMA fighters records resemble his or they risk getting dropped.when the **** i say anything about kung fu movies fukkin idiots
you brought up bruce lee for god knows what & bat brought up kung fu for whatever reason.all I asked for was good new strikers to get me back into MMA derp derp derp.
We brought example of exciting fights or fighters, and you mentioned them rare examples. From that, it seems like you are looking for a kung fu movies. The simple fact of the matter is, real fights don't have people pulling off crazy moves that much.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
look at that shit
......then you started acting like spin kick KOs are easy to pull off......then the shit started.