ufc/pride

Started by Insomniatric264 pages

I've always felt that the worst match-up for Machida is someone who can catch him coming in.

One thing Machida does is dart in on his opponents very quickly, look to land some strikes, and then dart back out. While he is very quick, he does leave himself open when he's coming in, his great timing with his bursts and just his natural speed are what he relies on to avoid getting caught, but he is still very much an open target for someone who is good at catching their opponents moving forward.

This forward blitz attack is what helped him land shots on Jon Jones:

Look at how beautiful the timing is on that, he comes forward as soon as Jones takes his leg off the ground and lands a solid left hand. Despite the beautiful timing and speed, notice how open Lyoto's chin is.

That's how Jones ultimately caught Machida in the stand-up:

Jones has great timing himself and was waiting for Machida to come forward.

If a guy like Jon Jones (who's boxing has never been anything to write home about) can do this to Machida, then someone like Anderson Silva is potentially a nightmare for Machida, because catching an opponent with backstep counters is pretty much his bread and butter.

It's hard to say for sure, because they are both brilliant strikers and very tough to figure out (not to mention that they know each other's game very well), but I could see Anderson finishing Machida.

Dos Santos vs Miocic will be the co-main event of UFC 173.

Sweet dreams, Stipe.

One thing worth considering about that though is Jones had already taken Machida down and landed some devestating elbows at that point in time. Machida took that fight on short notice and even seemed to gas a little in the second, and looked noticeably weak after being taken down.

Plus Jones isn't exactly a bad striker, he's looked good standing against the likes of Vitor, Rashad, Rampage, Shogun and Gus, is a great athlete, and has that freakish reach advantage, as well as the forever present threat of the takedown.

Machida would probably respect Anderson's skill and power to try and blitz him like that as well.

But I think we're mostly on the same page, imo:

Machida wins by decision 50%
Anderson wins by decision 25%
Anderson wins by finish 25%

Do you agree that they're the two best MMA strikers of all time?

Dos Santos vs Miocic will be the co-main event of UFC 173.

Sweet dreams, Stipe.

Haha, no kidding.

Jones was starting to land some good shots on Machida before the takedown, and may have even rocked him prior.

Jones is far from a bad striker, he's excellent at using his reach and has great timing, but his boxing is definitely lacking for a high level MMA fighter. His toughest match-up arguably is a fighter who doesn't give up a lot of size and length to him, has great TDD, and great boxing. This is why Gustafsson gave him such a tough fight.

I can definitely see Silva/Machida going either way so I don't really disagree with anything you're saying, but personally I'd lean towards Silva if I was forced to put money down.

Yeah, I do think they're the best strikers in MMA history. Two of the most fun to watch as well, imo.

Yeah, Machida/Anderson is hard to call. I think their striking, and familiarity with each other, would make them a little cautious on the feet. Oddly enough, their grappling might be the key factor, in the same way that two wrestlers often wind up striking.

Machida actually has pretty good takedowns and a good top game, combined with great take down defense. I could see him getting a decision over Anderson if no KO's come, simply because he'd land more takedowns and have "dominant" positioning while on the ground.

Jesus you have some real morons on sherdog arguing that Weidman's a better MMA striker than Anderson...

I assume they're referencing his wrestling/striking mix up potential?

Higher skill level than WMMA?

YouTube video

(also lol and holy fuuuuck)

War Gus!+!+!

Glad Gustafsson won, but it is unfortunate he didn't get an immediate rematch with Jones. That is usually what happens with title fights that are that close.

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Bermudes looking great against Hettes.

Know what's kinda crazy?

Go to the first page of this thread.

3rd post has a link to this thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28846&highlight=sakuraba

7th post:

Originally posted by Thee_superman
what about, Vitor, matt hughs, chuck lydell,and robie lawer

All the way back from 2004, over ten years ago.

And he's about to fight for the championship today!

What a dissapointing way for that to end.

Really disappointing ending to Condit/Woodley. It was a great fight up until then.

Hendricks/Lawler was awesome though. This match has really made wonder about Hendrick's longevity with the belt. I think he looked great against GSP due to stylistic matchups. If you've noticed, Hendricks fares worse against durable fighters like Condit or Koschek, than GSP does. But when they fight each other, it feels like Hendricks has the edge.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Know what's kinda crazy?

Go to the first page of this thread.

3rd post has a link to this thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28846&highlight=sakuraba

7th post:

All the way back from 2004, over ten years ago.

And he's about to fight for the championship [b]today! [/B]


Yeah that makes me feel old. I've been on these forums way too long lmao.

Really hope that Shogun beats Henderson this time.

I get the impression that people want to see Anderson fight Bisping when he comes back.

Is it just me or does anybody else have literally no interest in that fight? Stylistically Bisping is no threat to Anderson whatsoever nor does he have a style that would make the fight interesting at all.

I say have him fight Cung Le or something.

Bisping hasn't earned a fight w/Anderson.

Good to hear Jake "No damage" Shields took another L. He doesn't belong in UFC

He definitely belongs in the UFC and is a top 10 WW or MW imo, Hector Lombard is just that much of a monster that he was able to completely manhandle him.

He's an extremely good grappler, insanely tough, great cardio, and he's not a bad striker when it comes to point scoring. Everything combined makes him a bad matchup for a lot of people. Just look at his resume, or even recently what he's done to the likes of Tyron Woodley and Demian Maia.

UFC disagrees. He's been released