just some stuff i wanted to say:
silva did his job, leites was being a b!tch. he kept jumping on the ground, his takedowns were jokes. you could tell silva was getting pissed.
the nick diaz fight was pretty gay, shamrock didnt even look like he was trying, and nick kept trash talking on top of that sucky ass fight.
i hope chuck lidell decides to keep fighting, rua was losing the fight until he got that lucky punch, lidell looked pretty good up until then.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
just some stuff i wanted to say:silva did his job, leites was being a b!tch. he kept jumping on the ground, his takedowns were jokes. you could tell silva was getting pissed.
the nick diaz fight was pretty gay, shamrock didnt even look like he was trying, and nick kept trash talking on top of that sucky ass fight.
i hope chuck lidell decides to keep fighting, rua was losing the fight until he got that lucky punch, lidell looked pretty good up until then.
Silva did this job, no question, but Thales a *****? Not sure how. The guy attempted everything he could against a fighter that was classes ahead of him. The fight was a mismatch, UFC was afraid Silva would have trouble against Okami. They wanted another KO highlight for Silva.
Nick Diaz proved that he can back up his shit talking. Shamrock was 100% for the fight, and he was doing everything he could to win. Diaz had edge in stand up and ground. It was Diaz's fight, no question. Trash talking is part of any sport, you either like it or you don't. I could care less, just want to see MMA skills being displayed to the fullest.
Chuck is retiring for sure, but I'm assuming he'll make a small comeback. Like Couture, except I dont see Chuck ever holding a belt again.
Rua was not losing the fight. He landed more shots (leg kicks, combos), took Chuck down once, and went for a leg lock.
Rua was 10-9 Round 1 if the fight didn't end.
And as for "lucky punch", there is no such thing. If you have the intent of KO'ing the individual with a strike, and it lands, then the job was done.
No luck in MMA.
Originally posted by I-DropI got you.
Yep. It's on comcast.net. Silva did what he was supposed to do. The guy Silva fought didn't. Any links to vids? Saw the main event. Missed everything else
Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
Silva did this job, no question, but Thales a *****? Not sure how. The guy attempted everything he could against a fighter that was classes ahead of him. The fight was a mismatch, UFC was afraid Silva would have trouble against Okami. They wanted another KO highlight for Silva.Nick Diaz proved that he can back up his shit talking. Shamrock was 100% for the fight, and he was doing everything he could to win. Diaz had edge in stand up and ground. It was Diaz's fight, no question. Trash talking is part of any sport, you either like it or you don't. I could care less, just want to see MMA skills being displayed to the fullest.
Chuck is retiring for sure, but I'm assuming he'll make a small comeback. Like Couture, except I dont see Chuck ever holding a belt again.
Rua was not losing the fight. He landed more shots (leg kicks, combos), took Chuck down once, and went for a leg lock.
Rua was 10-9 Round 1 if the fight didn't end.
And as for "lucky punch", there is no such thing. If you have the intent of KO'ing the individual with a strike, and it lands, then the job was done.
No luck in MMA.
1. yes a *****, i dont know how you dont understand it, jumping on the floor more than 10 times in the fight is sad, sure its ok if your enemy takes you down, but if its your own self doing it its quite sad. There was no way he attemted everything he could, the first 2 rounds was kind of nothing.
2. Against him? Nick diaz went beyond trash talking, he was so cocky he even stuck his chin out a couple of times insisting for shamrock to hit him. Shamrock hardly tried to take him to the ground, the last round he actually tried to box him more than anything, that being stupid because diaz' arms are much longer than shamrocks. The best thing he should have done was gone for more takedowns, since he obviously was the stronger one, and it was pretty much all he had left for him.
Chuck nearly got him down one time, the leg lock wasnt close at all against chuck, and he attempted 3 times iirc a take down, only 1 of 3 were successful, chucks sprawls were outstanding.
If you would have asked rua before that punch if he thought it was going to knock chuck out or not, i can garauntee you he would have said no. I didnt necassarily mean "luck" because sure, using your logic every punch an mma fighter throws is intended to hurt the other fighter, but he got "lucky" that the punch knocked him down rather than just dazed him.
Originally posted by Dr. Leg KickThanx
I got you.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
1. yes a *****, i dont know how you dont understand it, jumping on the floor more than 10 times in the fight is sad, sure its ok if your enemy takes you down, but if its your own self doing it its quite sad. There was no way he attemted everything he could, the first 2 rounds was kind of nothing.2. Against him? Nick diaz went beyond trash talking, he was so cocky he even stuck his chin out a couple of times insisting for shamrock to hit him. Shamrock hardly tried to take him to the ground, the last round he actually tried to box him more than anything, that being stupid because diaz' arms are much longer than shamrocks. The best thing he should have done was gone for more takedowns, since he obviously was the stronger one, and it was pretty much all he had left for him.
Chuck nearly got him down one time, the leg lock wasnt close at all against chuck, and he attempted 3 times iirc a take down, only 1 of 3 were successful, chucks sprawls were outstanding.
If you would have asked rua before that punch if he thought it was going to knock chuck out or not, i can garauntee you he would have said no. I didnt necassarily mean "luck" because sure, using your logic every punch an mma fighter throws is intended to hurt the other fighter, but he got "lucky" that the punch knocked him down rather than just dazed him.
1. I dont know how you dont understand, thats why i said Silva was classes ahead of Leites. Leites had no idea what to do against Silva. His gameplan was thrown right out the window after round 2. It was evident.
2. Diaz's reach was a factor, but not enough for the fight to be one sided. Diaz had advantage in every category except experience, and maybe wrestling. Frank wasn't going to submit Diaz, so taking him down would have been a huge mistake, and I highly doubt he was going to knock him out. Sticking his head out was his way of saying "**** you for knocking out my mentor". Im not a fan at all of his antics, but he's backing up everything he's said and done.
3. Guess we dont see eye to eye on the Rua/Liddell fight. I rewatched and gave round 1 to Rua 10-9. More aggressive, more shots landed, more attempts were made. In the end Rua won, all that matters. Hope we see Shogun vs Rampage II.
Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
3. Guess we dont see eye to eye on the Rua/Liddell fight. I rewatched and gave round 1 to Rua 10-9. More aggressive, more shots landed, more attempts were made. In the end Rua won, all that matters. Hope we see Shogun vs Rampage II.
Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
1. I dont know how you dont understand, thats why i said Silva was classes ahead of Leites. Leites had no idea what to do against Silva. His gameplan was thrown right out the window after round 2. It was evident.2. Diaz's reach was a factor, but not enough for the fight to be one sided. Diaz had advantage in every category except experience, and maybe wrestling. Frank wasn't going to submit Diaz, so taking him down would have been a huge mistake, and I highly doubt he was going to knock him out. Sticking his head out was his way of saying "**** you for knocking out my mentor". Im not a fan at all of his antics, but he's backing up everything he's said and done.
3. Guess we dont see eye to eye on the Rua/Liddell fight. I rewatched and gave round 1 to Rua 10-9. More aggressive, more shots landed, more attempts were made. In the end Rua won, all that matters. Hope we see Shogun vs Rampage II.
1. I dont care how much better of a fighter silva is, Leites still could have tried more, he probably attempted maybe 3 or 4 takedowns, the other 4000000 times he fell to the floor looked on purpose, he still could have tried to get a couple of swings in there and had a better chance of landing those than to do what he did. And what gameplan are you talking about? Standing around the whole fight? he did absolutely hardly anything in the first 2 rounds, iirc 1 lucky takedown, which silva handled with ease. So much of a gameplan 😬
2. I never said diaz' arms length made the fight one sided, im simply saying that trying to box with someone who has much better longer arms than you was definitely the wrong move. He would have had a much better chance trying to takedown diaz and to knock him out than to box him. And taking him down doesnt necassarily mean submission, i was more leaning toward a knock out.
Theres a big difference between talking trash and backing it up, and disrespecting your opponent, which in my eyes diaz definitely crossed the line. I dont care if he did beat his mentors ass, there was no need for him to do that.
3. I never said he didnt win, im just saying that it would have been a good fight if rua didnt land that punch, and in my eyes liddel would have took it. I kind of feel bad for liddel, to me he did look good during the fight and that knockout probably made everyone think he was a joke, when hes not. Hope fully he'll come back. And yes that would be a good rematch but Rampage would rock shogun completely 😉
Originally posted by k1Lla441Ditto. TL didn't fight like a guy who wanted the title. He fought like a guy who just didn't wanna get hurt. He fell whenever the wind from Silva's punches went by his face. I hope Cote comes back soon. He fought like he wanted to win.
1. I dont care how much better of a fighter silva is, Leites still could have tried more, he probably attempted maybe 3 or 4 takedowns, the other 4000000 times he fell to the floor looked on purpose, he still could have tried to get a couple of swings in there and had a better chance of landing those than to do what he did. And what gameplan are you talking about? Standing around the whole fight? he did absolutely hardly anything in the first 2 rounds, iirc 1 lucky takedown, which silva handled with ease. So much of a gameplan
Originally posted by k1Lla441hope you're not referring to me on that one, cuz i never said he tried his hardest. i said his gameplan went out the window after round 2/3.
And iirc didnt tl give a public apology (i maybe wrong) on tv about how he fought? if this is right, then why would he do that if he "tried his hardest"?
I wouldn't be surprised if he apologized. He should. So should Anderson.
Originally posted by I-DropI would agree with you, but let's think about this.
TL should. Anderson don't need to.
Anderson's style is counter striking, and it has been effective all this time. So, I would agree that he doesn't have to change anything cuz he's always winning.
BUT, his opponents are basically catching up to what he does, and why he's successful at it. If he's such a great counter striker, then it's obvious no one will want to strike against him. Fighters are gonig to want to counter strike the counter striker (lol).
My point being, if Anderson doesn't change it up, he'll probably have fights like this on occasion, or more often.
As for me, I'd rather see him fight at 205 for sometime before he defends his belt.
Anderson Silva vs Brandon Vera
Make it happen^
( . Y . )
hehehe
Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
I would agree with you, but let's think about this.Anderson's style is counter striking, and it has been effective all this time. So, I would agree that he doesn't have to change anything cuz he's always winning.
BUT, his opponents are basically catching up to what he does, and why he's successful at it. If he's such a great counter striker, then it's obvious no one will want to strike against him. Fighters are gonig to want to counter strike the counter striker (lol).
My point being, if Anderson doesn't change it up, he'll probably have fights like this on occasion, or more often.
As for me, I'd rather see him fight at 205 for sometime before he defends his belt.
Anderson Silva vs Brandon Vera
Make it happen^
( . Y . )
hehehe
I agree.
I think that's why Chuck has so much trouble now too.
When you try to make a counter striker engage,or initiate an attack you are setting them up.
I think the difference between Chuck and Anderson is the fact that Anderson keeps his aggresion in Check and refuses to take the leap.
Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
I would agree with you, but let's think about this.Anderson's style is counter striking, and it has been effective all this time. So, I would agree that he doesn't have to change anything cuz he's always winning.
BUT, his opponents are basically catching up to what he does, and why he's successful at it. If he's such a great counter striker, then it's obvious no one will want to strike against him. Fighters are gonig to want to counter strike the counter striker (lol).
My point being, if Anderson doesn't change it up, he'll probably have fights like this on occasion, or more often.
As for me, I'd rather see him fight at 205 for sometime before he defends his belt.
Anderson Silva vs Brandon Vera
Make it happen^
( . Y . )
hehehe
Pinpointed it dead on, imo i think he should start the fight a little more aggressive, suprise some people, and mix it up so people dont know what hes going to do.
"The guy attempted everything he could against a fighter that was classes ahead of him." Eh, maybe you didnt say the exact words of "he tried his hardest" but this is pretty damn close. I dont think he attempted everything, there was a lot more he could have done. And if he did attempt everything he could, then there should be no reason for him to apologise.
Originally posted by k1Lla441It's a strange situation.
Pinpointed it dead on, imo i think he should start the fight a little more aggressive, suprise some people, and mix it up so people dont know what hes going to do."The guy attempted everything he could against a fighter that was classes ahead of him." Eh, maybe you didnt say the exact words of "he tried his hardest" but this is pretty damn close. I dont think he attempted everything, there was a lot more he could have done. And if he did attempt everything he could, then there should be no reason for him to apologise.
If his next fight is lackluster as his previous, then this could be problematic for future events, and that's just from a business point of view.
From what I've read online Anderson Silva's next opponent will be Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. Hopefully theses rumors turn out to be true...
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
From what I've read online Anderson Silva's next opponent will be Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. Hopefully theses rumors turn out to be true...
Edit: got this off wikiGriffin vs. Silva
His next fight will be against Anderson Silva at UFC 101.[34] Griffin had been previously slated to take on Brazilian Thiago Silva. On April 28th, 2009, UFC President Dana White confirmed that he will instead accomodate Anderson's Silva's return to the light heavyweight division following the latter's lackluster title defense against Thales Leites at UFC 97.
