Bible Scholars: Please Give me the answer

Started by Lord Urizen9 pages

I think the major factor that goes into one's absolute acceptance of religious text is sentimentality.

Thier parents, thier priests, and thier like minded freinds all show them great love, which they feel in return in TRUE LOVE...and the only kind of love that counts.

They feel that if they question thier Faith AT ALL...they are not only betraying themselves and thier religion, but they are also betraying those people they LOVE dearly and therefore QUESTIONING anything about the Bible, even the contradictions is out of the question.

Sad and Understandable.....but still close minded.

I think faith is a misunderstood word...

If anyone wants to have faith... I think the best way is to have faith in themselves.

Very good point.

Faith should not mean religious faith. I have faith the sun will rise tomorrow morning, and that I will go to bed tonight. I don't think a god is doing it.

Those who are blindly religious will usually confuse the word faith with truth. So 99% of the time, anything they believe in, they automatically think that belief is the truth.

That too.

But I'm not pointing any fingers. The same can happen even to the wisest of philosophers. It's just better not to get all tied up into one idea.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
If anyone wants to have faith... I think the best way is to have faith in themselves.

Only a fool would have true faith in themselves. We are not perfect and are destined to fail if we trust only in ourselves.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Only a fool would have true faith in themselves. We are not perfect and are destined to fail if we trust only in ourselves.
Not true.............Being true to ones own self is TRUTH....and truth will set you free (quoting Scripture).............Follow your heart.............that will lead you to much happiness........don't follow someones else's heart.........You are a treasure......value yourself as such!!

Faith in oneself is foolish how ?

WE are ultamately ALL WE KNOW and have......

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I think the major factor that goes into one's absolute acceptance of religious text is sentimentality.

They feel that if they question thier Faith AT ALL...they are not only betraying themselves and thier religion, but they are also betraying those people they LOVE dearly and therefore QUESTIONING anything about the Bible, even the contradictions is out of the question.

Sad and Understandable.....but still close minded.

I think it is unreasonable to believe anything without asking questions, as long as they are honest questions. I also believe that if we have questions about the bible God will provide answers. If we are just trying to call God on the carpet with no real desire for truth he is under no obligation to answer.

Well, it shouldn't take a miracle for people to believe, but sadly that's what people expect. When you see a magician pull a rabbit out of his hat does that mean he is God? No. Faith takes stability in a belief, even though some facts may be astrewn. I have faith that my car won't break down on my way to work. Why? Because I've made sure that everything is working properly, I've done the RESEARCH on my car. Same goes for religious beliefs. But sometimes for unknown reasons the car breaks down because I OVERLOOKED something. Thats why it is so important to do the RESEARCH. Its sad that some people don't have cars...

When it comes to Christianity, I KNOW that Jesus lived, as for the Old Testiment, those stories are for christians to guide themselves through and find the answers on there own. What amazes me is how accurate the Gospel is and how tightly woven it is, even through endless translations.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
Well, it shouldn't take a miracle for people to believe, but sadly that's what people expect. When you see a magician pull a rabbit out of his hat does that mean he is God? No. Faith takes stability in a belief, even though some facts may be astrewn. I have faith that my car won't break down on my way to work. Why? Because I've made sure that everything is working properly, I've done the RESEARCH on my car. Same goes for religious beliefs. But sometimes for unknown reasons the car breaks down because I OVERLOOKED something. Thats why it is so important to do the RESEARCH. Its sad that some people don't have cars...

When it comes to Christianity, I KNOW that Jesus lived, as for the Old Testiment, those stories are for christians to guide themselves through and find the answers on there own. What amazes me is how accurate the Gospel is and how tightly woven it is, even through endless translations.

Honesty, despite our differences, I have nothing against Christians or Christianity in general.

I used to be Catholic, my family still is, and many of my freinds are.

I am only annoyed by ultra conservative Christians, but let me not go off topic......Space Opera, why are only 4 Gospels included in the Bible ? What about the Gospels of Tomas and judas? Are not all the words of the Bible directly inspired by God? If so, why would one be included and the other not?

Convienence.....hmm...i smell conspiracy ✅

along with the gospels of tomas and judas, there is the gospels of mary magdeline and a few others too, but these were not actually written by any of the titled authors and were in fact written up to a hundred years after the DEATH of Jesus. these are called the gnostic gospels. the bible consists of the four gospels because these were written by the original desciples of jesus and were written only 20-30 years after the death of jesus. so when it comes down to it, why would they decide to put writings in the bible that were written by false authors? and also, who would you believe, the people who actually knew and had a defined relationship with jesus or people who lived a hundred years after him and had no contact with him at all? if you want i can give you a link to a good website that is non-bias that explains and detangles some of the false histoy written in things like the gnostic gospels and modern things like the da vince code.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
along with the gospels of tomas and judas, there is the gospels of mary magdeline and a few others too, but these were not actually written by any of the titled authors and were in fact written up to a hundred years after the DEATH of Jesus. these are called the gnostic gospels. the bible consists of the four gospels because these were written by the original desciples of jesus and were written only 20-30 years after the death of jesus. so when it comes down to it, why would they decide to put writings in the bible that were written by false authors? and also, who would you believe, the people who actually knew and had a defined relationship with jesus or people who lived a hundred years after him and had no contact with him at all? if you want i can give you a link to a good website that is non-bias that explains and detangles some of the false histoy written in things like the gnostic gospels and modern things like the da vince code.

I heard that Mary Magdeline was not a prostitute, but in fact an Apostle of Christ. I heard evidence of this on The History Channel, I can supply you with info if you want me 2, i just have to go back and look.

What is your say on this ?

i believe that she was an unofficial desciple of christ. Jesus taught mary and spoke alot of scripture to her and guided her through man of her struggles. i dont know much about her, id have to do more research because i never really bothered reading the gnostic gospels. mary's role with jesus' desciples grew into somewhat of a conflict after the crucifiction because they were trying to decide who should lead the desciples and it came down to mary and john i believe, but the desciples, because of the time period, had difficulty believing mary, being a woman, could handle it. so apparently (agian i may be slightly mistaken) mary went off and started her own group of followers, and John did as well. i believe that mary was in fact very close to jesus, not as close as the da vinci code suggests. its hard to know for sure because th bible really isnt very precise on the subject.

I think she was an apostle, but was deleted by the catholic church because they pretty much hated women. (well, at the time i guess 😬)

I heard the same............and from what I've read, her and Jesus used to spend lots of time together talking..........Peter was jealous....

and what better way to surpress many matriachial pagan religions?

The ruin of the church, though in my mind, I don't understand why that would be.............according to the bible Jesus was to experience all that was to be humman and that would include this.

people don't like it if their gods become human.