Originally posted by snoopdogg
I bet Superman uses his speed more than Thor uses his lightining, or Iron Man uses his thought descramblers, or Wasp goes into somebodies ear-drum.
Actually my posting was just a joke. I wasn't trying to make a serious point at all. I already stated my point and I'm finished with it. Anybody else can make whatever opinions they want but I'm done.
Originally posted by ThunderstrikeI thought you didn't go by Handbooks? Anyways I don't think Ult. Thor can fly that fast he just can teleport.
It's says in the handbooks that Thor can fly multiples of lightspeed. 😉Just throwing that out there.
Heres the way I see it. Ult. Colossus wrecked Ult. Thor and Ult. Thor almost wrecked the Ultimates.
Superman wrecks them all.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
He's done it before. So have many people. It's just what they prefer to do. Thor can fly 3X lightspeed or more with ease, but he opens portals because it's damn faster. Same with Strange.
I hate how much speedblitz is used like he does it all the time.
Take, for example, Mr. Majestic. He has 1 or 2 feats that put him close to Flash in terms of reaction time. Yet Cpt. Atom just owned him. Supes has some good reaction feats. But he regularly gets into brawls (and gets hit) by "normal" superhuman foes. Thor would get some hits in. So would Iron Man. So would Hulk. To say otherwise is to ignore probably 98% of Supes' fights and to say that the 2% is what he's capable of every time. It isn't. Supes is a beast, but Ultimates win.
Originally posted by DigiMark007When Supes is fighting more than one enemy is when he uses his speed.
I hate how much speedblitz is used like he does it all the time.Take, for example, Mr. Majestic. He has 1 or 2 feats that put him close to Flash in terms of reaction time. Yet Cpt. Atom just owned him. Supes has some good reaction feats. But he regularly gets into brawls (and gets hit) by "normal" superhuman foes. Thor would get some hits in. So would Iron Man. So would Hulk. To say otherwise is to ignore probably 98% of Supes' fights and to say that the 2% is what he's capable of every time. It isn't. Supes is a beast, but Ultimates win.
In this fight he is fighting multiple opponents. His speed is too much as are his other powers and they will go down.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I hate how much speedblitz is used like he does it all the time.Take, for example, Mr. Majestic. He has 1 or 2 feats that put him close to Flash in terms of reaction time. Yet Cpt. Atom just owned him. Supes has some good reaction feats. But he regularly gets into brawls (and gets hit) by "normal" superhuman foes. Thor would get some hits in. So would Iron Man. So would Hulk. To say otherwise is to ignore probably 98% of Supes' fights and to say that the 2% is what he's capable of every time. It isn't. Supes is a beast, but Ultimates win.
Digi is my hero. 😄
Originally posted by ValidusNo speedblilz Supes still wins. I see your point on them not being able to do any harm to him. IronMan and Thor are their heavy hitters and they don't have what it takes to put somebody down like Superman.
I think Supes could take this even without the vaunted speedblitz. The Ultimates just don't have enough firepower to put down someone with Supes durability.
The others are non-factors.
Originally posted by Validus
I think Supes could take this even without the vaunted speedblitz. The Ultimates just don't have enough firepower to put down someone with Supes durability.
Have you seen the Ultimate Hulk or are you just assuming?
This is not a match of durability. This is a battle and Superman is out-gunned.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
Have you seen the Ultimate Hulk or are you just assuming?This is not a match of durability. This is a battle and Superman is out-gunned.
Besides, Hulk isn't a team member. Like snoop said, Thor and Iron Man have all the firepower but it won't be enough to put down Superman. Meanwhile he could own everyone in one shot whether it be a punch, heat vision, or artic breath.
Originally posted by Psyquis52The Ultimates may have more guns but Superman has the bigger guns.
Have you seen the Ultimate Hulk or are you just assuming?This is not a match of durability. This is a battle and Superman is out-gunned.
The Ultimate characters are supposed to be weaker versions. That's what I keep hearing anyways. Ult. Hulk gets burned to toast. Thor is his biggest threat and he's not much of one.
Originally posted by Validus
Let's just Ultimate Hulk has as good a shot at beating Supes at his 616 counterpart.Besides, Hulk isn't a team member. Like snoop said, Thor and Iron Man have all the firepower but it won't be enough to put down Superman. Meanwhile he could own everyone in one shot.