Spawn Camping

Originally posted by PVS
:edit: i always turn spawn invulnarability off in the games i host, since the problem is that while you are invulnerable, you also cannot move or even look around. so all an enemy has to do is count to (whatever the spawn time is set to) and let one fly at your skull. so its pointless imho

heh.. the spawn invul idea can also backfire.. giving the invulnerable individual dibs on the first shot... unless of course the program doesnt allow that..

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I like corridor type gunfighting rather than the outdoorsy stuff though..it puts a damper on the 1 hit kill weapons that plague the spawn camp phenomena

snipers are a wildcard in this discussion though.. simply because they dont have to be near the spawn point.. but just keep their scopes open for fresh nublets.. so its difficult to say that they are spawn 'camping'.. since they're nowhere near it

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
heh.. the spawn invul idea can also backfire.. giving the invulnerable individual dibs on the first shot... unless of course the program doesnt allow that..

thats the thing, unfortunately...it doesnt. it would be best if you could run but not shoot, while being invincible when you spawn. that would fix the problem imho, as well as more selectable spawn points.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

snipers are a wildcard in this discussion though.. simply because they dont have to be near the spawn point.. but just keep their scopes open for fresh nublets.. so its difficult to say that they are spawn 'camping'.. since they're nowhere near it

naaaaaa. distance is irrelevant. they camp at a distance, they snipe people the moment they spawn = spawn camp

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Spawn camping is one of those things where it can be fun as hell to do, but you hate anyone else who does it.

That's precisely why I don't spawn camp. It takes the fun out.

Where's the fun in knowing there's no danger of dying? That's where the excitement is. Running away from someone firing at you.

-AC

given that spawn camping seems like it will continue as long as FPS's have sniper rifles... I'd have to say that the map design is important in influencing a players decision to spawncamp.. as people will only do what they're allowed to... OR... the game could delay your spawn time for every enemy killed within 5 seconds of their spawning.. so when you die you'd be waitin a while as a price for your trigger finger

man, i had some assclown yelling and arguing with me last night because i made an announcement of "no spawn camping" before i launched the game. you should have heard this guy piss and moan and cry. you would think i just pissed all over his xbox and kicked his dog down the stairs. what is with these people? find another frikin lobby! there's plenty more. ffs...

he wouldnt stfu so i booted him, then he keeps coming back to continue bitching. so i boot him for the fifth time and launch the game, then comes the angry voice message.

just some 12 year old screaming timmy, right? WRONG!!! grown ass man.

Originally posted by PVS
man, i had some assclown yelling and arguing with me last night because i made an announcement of "no spawn camping" before i launched the game. you should have heard this guy piss and moan and cry. you would think i just pissed all over his xbox and kicked his dog down the stairs. what is with these people? find another frikin lobby! there's plenty more. ffs...

he wouldnt stfu so i booted him, then he keeps coming back to continue bitching. so i boot him for the fifth time and launch the game, then comes the angry voice message.

just some 12 year old screaming timmy, right? WRONG!!! grown ass man.

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Well In CS you cant really spawn camp unless your playing in a Deathmatch Server, even then you get to kill 2 or 3 max then you die. Day of Defeat really pissed me off when people would do that but then again I would die 2 times and know where they are camped.

This is a little off topic but I want to get CoD 2 but I dont know if its worth getting. The gamespot review was a 50/50 coverage of the game. Is this game worth getting because its either CoD 2 or Day of Defeat.

the CoD2 campaign mode is just....bliss. i wish i could erase my memory of it so i could enjoy it all again. the online play is great...but way overshadowed by graw.

Originally posted by El_NINO
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Well In CS you cant really spawn camp unless your playing in a Deathmatch Server, even then you get to kill 2 or 3 max then you die. Day of Defeat really pissed me off when people would do that but then again I would die 2 times and know where they are camped.

This is a little off topic but I want to get CoD 2 but I dont know if its worth getting. The gamespot review was a 50/50 coverage of the game. Is this game worth getting because its either CoD 2 or Day of Defeat.

i always thought spawn camping was when you canmped in your own spawn and jsut waited for people to come to you, thats what everyone in CS seemed to think it was.

if your talking about the xbox version, id recomend getting the other one because i was really disapointed with the whole experience of CoD 2. then again if you have a 360 that version looked pretty good, but i wouldnt really know.

no, that would mean they were camping their own spawn...a mostly futile tactic which usually ends up with the camped team getting their asses kicked...i guess the only perk is that they dont have to walk far to get sniped again. also, when people pull that strategy they force the other team into their spawn (what else are they supposed to do) so then they pretty much forfeit their right to not be camped, at least in the games i host....punishment for making the game dull.

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so thats it? wow! every time i see this topic at other forums its debated as harshly as politics. i was hoping for more input.

Are we talking about camping the enemy spawn, or camping your own?

enemy spawn.

and from that the topic is whether its a noble practice if (in the rare to none occasion) that a lobby host informs their guests that spawn camping is legal. when you reach that conclusion, select your choice on the poll.

some, like me, have their own passions about it. i think its just braindead and really doesnt show consistant skill. i think the true mark of skill is to maintain the asskicking for the whole round, rather than be skillful for about 25 seconds and then just sit there hitting the trigger over and over. i also fail to see how anyone, including the ones spawncamping, is actually having fun.

some members, who are quite the unique snowflakes,
insist that its a legal tactic even if the house rules are against.

graw has easy solution, have multiple choices to spawn, if the other team can manage to take over every single one then I think at that point your already getting your killed and they mine as well camp it to end it.

^That makes total sense if you are getting spawn camped its because you are getting pwned everywhere else.....

not necessarily imho:

Originally posted by PVS
1-you have to be good to make it to their spawn.

this is an argument i completely disagree with. when playing graw, i have gone straight to their spawn on many occasions without making contact. i call that dumb luck, not skill. i dont get to the other side and say "daaaaaaaaams i'm goooooooood" ...btw, i have done this playing top notch gamers. many times you just luck out and get to the other side unseen because they are elsewhere looking to bust a cap in your ass.

2-they shouldnt have let you get there in the first place. so its their fault because they suck

another pointless argument imho. maybe they DO suck, but isnt it more fun to kill them on the field, knowing they are not cripped by the disposition of being spawn camping? so you are really giving them an excuse for being beaten, arent you? ...but that doesnt matter, because as per the first point, people can get to your spawn by dumb luck, and its quite stupid and boring for a team to just sit at their spawn to avoid campers. and...when you think about it, if both teams did that...there really wouldnt be a game,, would there?

heh.. usually the first thing I do when I spawn is run for cover.. or at least try to survive the initial headshot attempts by crouching instantly

the first thing i do is boot the spawncampers 😛

Originally posted by PVS
the first thing i do is boot the spawncampers 😛

My hero

Originally posted by BackFire
My hero

well, i would be a lazy good-for-nothing dead-beat host if i didnt...right?

Yes