Marka Ragnos vs DN Luke and DE Sidious

Originally posted by kamikz
So you mean that anyone who defeated can defeat the Exile is better than Nihilus and automatically worse than the "death of the force"?.

No. What I mean is that she descripes the Exile, who does pocess kind of immunity to force drain attacks, is able to gain power via connections to other force users and defeated such a threat like Nihilus as a "child" compared to the Ancients. I didn't say they would naturally be worse but given the fact that the technique Nihilus used was coming from the Ancients they could be as bad or even worse compared to Nihilus and the Exile.

Oh ok.

I didn't know that draining/hunger technique came from the ancient sith, I thought it could not be taught. Where was this said, must have missed it....

Yup, it originated from the ancient sith.

Nihilius's abilities though, on sheer scale had to come from Nihilius himself. Most people aren't tears in the fabric of the force

Nihilus was created by the exile and his ability comes from the ancient sith..

And his hunger and power come from himself alone.
BTW, Nai: I said earlier, I'm putting this on hiatus till I can get through to KJA and finish with exams.
Peace for now?

no, his hunger and power come from Malachor and as a result of the exile.

It was a result of him closing himself off as a result of Malachor.

You do understand how Nihilus was created right? And when you play KOTOR II how you end up killing all the Jedi right? You're using the same force drain as Nihilus.

That's because both of them are wounds in the force.

And Nihilius was created because when a mommy and daddy love eachother veeeery much...his Malachor self was due to him shutting himself off from the Force like the Exile

Actually no, because Nihilus isn't human.. He was created as a direct result of Malachor V/exile becoming a wound.

No, he was a Jedi at Malachor before the 'accident;

Where the hell are you getting your information from now?

The game?

I've played the game a million times, how convenient is it that I've never heard of this nonsense?

You also miss the "He is no longer a man." Stuff?

Said by who exactly? And where does it say that he was a Jedi? He was created as a result of the exile and Malachor V, this is a fact.

Right, same way as the Exile. I want a quote backing your stuff up...I ecall Kreia talking about how he was no longer human.

Originally posted by tdtd
Nihilus was created by the exile and his ability comes from the ancient sith..

Kreia describes him differently, actually. I'll get back to you on this one. But regarding his draining ability? He's something of an anomaly there: even though others may be capable of a similar attack, we've certainly yet to see them replicate it on the scale Nihilus does. Afterall, Nihilus literally feeds off of the Force, and requires the power of a planet to sustain himself. And for some flavor, point out for me when we've seen a) Draining attacks on such massive scale, and b) A similar attack that literally tears the flesh off of its victims.

Faunus, where'd he remove someone's flesh? Visas's eye sockets?