Yoda vs. Jacen Solo

Jacen Solo in Traitor against Yoda. Force and lightsaber battle. Battle in the training room in the Jedi Temple. Who wins?

Yoda easily. No argument needed really, Jacen is far too inexperienced to fight somone of Yodas caliber even if he does perhaps have a higher potential.

Yoda, but definatly not "easily".

Jacen's strength is a mystery to me. I only read (argh) the Crystal Star (big mistake). What is he capable of?

Eh, I'd say Yoda wins pretty damn easily.

Originally posted by Razielim
Yoda, but definatly not "easily".

if this was TUF jacen...

Even if it were TUF Jacen Yoda would take him. I assume that this is Jacen at his peak in Traitor, which I believe is when he is surrounded by the Amphistaffs. Even then, I can see Yoda taking him.

If it was Jacen at the end of TUF, during his light show, he'd demolish Yoda.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
If it was Jacen at the end of TUF, during his light show, he'd demolish Yoda.

If it was Jacen *during* his lightshow, then perhaps...otherwise no he gets demolished due to lack of experience.

Sorry, for once I have to disagree with you.

No perhaos, Jacen pretty much achieves a state of oneness with the force, can't beat that

BS. Let's see your support. And claiming that he became the force avatar doesn't mean anything, as that alone doesn't mean he'd defeat Yoda, nor doesn't it even mean that it made him especially powerful. It could very well mean that he had increased ability to urinate far distances, nothing more.

Page 471: "He had merged with the force in its entirety."

And...you have what to say now? Mmhm, thought so.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No perhaos, Jacen pretty much achieves a state of oneness with the force, can't beat that

That wasnt due to his power, it was due to the force choosing him as a conduit. Jacen says himself he would never be able to repeat the feat, and disregarding that one feat, there is nothing to suggest Jacen would have a chance against a 900 year old *epitome of the light* jedi master.

And Yoda could defeat the guy who just merged with the force in its entirety? Became a pure conduit to its raw power

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Yoda could defeated the guy who just merged with the force in its entirety? Became a pure conduit to its raw power

What? 😐

The Unifying Force, page 471

You thought that I would say that doesn't prove anything? Good.

That doesn't mean that he is now powerful enough to defeat Yoda. What do you think Ben did when he became one with the force? I doubt you would call Ben's force ghost strong enough to defeat Yoda even though he had fully merged with the force.

Page 471. Became a pure conduit to the pure raw power of the force..

Originally posted by Lightsnake
The Unifying Force, page 471

Read my post, it explained why Jacen could become one with the force, it was entirely due to the circumstance of the force *choosing* him...not Jacens own power.