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A.J Restricted

Ill make it now then we can bump it later

A.J Restricted

Ive made it, debate when you are on you guys ok.

bigbran Dead

and it got closed before i could do anything.

A.J Restricted

I know

bigbran Dead

damn, i would have won.

jasofisc Senior Member

sorry about your aunt capt

jasofisc Senior Member

oh and i can save everyone a hundred page debate and tell everyone how it will go.

capt and jinzin will give facts on both characters (because they both know about both characters then Spiderman or wolverine fanboys do) then give their idea oh how wins more. their will be a coupld rational post but mainly it will be wolverine and Spiderman fan boys talking about how either Spiderman wins 1000000000/10 or how wolverine wins 999999999999999/10 all the real data will be ignored bye people like bigbran basically saying nu uh time after time and they will think they won the debate. (by the way the only way to win debate is by either the other side agreeing to your points or a third unbiased party saying you won not by declaring that you are the winner)

bigbran Dead

face it fantoys, wolverine is not going to defeat him any time soon.

jasofisc Senior Member

wow you are a good debater bigbran how can anybody in this group face your brilliance.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by jasofisc
wow you are a good debater bigbran how can anybody in this group face your brilliance.

i know. and sacasm is a second language to me.
why do i have to debate, when everyone should know that spiderman is above him.
this arguement is like debating iron fist is above spiderman. sure iron fist can put him down in one shot, but hes going to have to hit him first.
and dont even try to say wolverine is above iron fist.

Rick/Genis Less than Newbie

Don't you guys realize, Wolverine gets blown up all the time now!? How many times does spiderman get blown up? 😄

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
ok.

This should be funny

Originally posted by bigbran
lets seeolverine break out of webs while hes getting the beating of his life.

How does spiderman web wolverine up in the first place? Also I like to point out in there first battle spiderman gave wolverine every thing he had and he could not even wipe a smile off Logan face let a lone KO him.

Originally posted by bigbran
or if wolves can defend against that(for some odd reason)

Yes wolverine can it called dodging and cutting which wolverine is quite capable of doing to spidermans webs. Spiderman webbing would be moving in slow motion to Logan the same as bullets do.

Originally posted by bigbran
lets see him catch spides.

He been there done that. Here are a few pictures of it.
http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineowningspidermanfq5.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
or if spides is scared, he could always run up a building

There are no buildings in an arena fight unless other wise stated which it was not.

Originally posted by bigbran
and throw stuff at him.

What would he throw at Logan? Logan could dodge any thing spiderman throw at him. Not only that, but Logan could get up to a rough top almost as fast as spiderman could, but that hardly matter because that would be plot devices not spiderman.

Originally posted by bigbran
he is a ten tonner.

Man your knowledge of Spiderman is bad, I can only wince at the thought of how bad your knowledge of Logan is. Also just so you know Logan is wolverine aka. Spiderman is not a 10 tonner, he is now a 15-20 tonner.

Originally posted by bigbran
Spiderman has so many options to win,

No he really does not. He has pretty much one option and that his webbing.

Originally posted by bigbran
its not even funny.

No what’s funny is your arrogance and basic lack of knowledge on both characters.

Originally posted by bigbran
hell he could tie him up and throw him as far as he can(bfr)

How the hell could he tie up some one who far more skilled then him and almost moves as fast? I also like to know what throwing his would accomplish

Originally posted by bigbran
the only way wolverine is going to win, is if spiderman doesnt use hs strengh

Here were your lack of knowledge hurts you dearly. Spidermans strength is almost a non issue in this fight seeing how Logan takes repeated hits form class 100 and is quite all right here one instance
http://img427.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smash2vn.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
agility, speed,

Spidermans edge in both these areas is by such a small amount it will matter little do to the fact Logan skill and stamina are far more superior the spidermans.

Originally posted by bigbran
webbing,

Which can be cut or easily dodged

Originally posted by bigbran
and quirky remarks.

What does this have to do with any thing? The only thing these quirky remarks might do is put wolverine into a berserker rage which will make Spiderman’s chances of winning much less.

Originally posted by bigbran
that doesnt leave much room for wolverine to win, does it?

See the thing is your just plain wrong. Your knowledge of both wolverine and Spiderman abilities is quite bad. Wolverine has a far more likely chance of winning then the other way around my friend.

Originally posted by bigbran
sweet i barely own any comics,

Now that explains the lack of such basic information. How do u exspect to debate some one when you do not have proper knowledge of the character you are debating for let alone the character you are debating against. If you own almost no comics then you have no evidence and most of the crap coming out of your mouth is more then likely bull shit.

Originally posted by bigbran
and i own people like you every day.

You are quite arrogant and I am positive you own no one except perhaps grimm22 and that is quite a stretch as well. I can guarantee you this how ever you will in no way own me and this debate we are having.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It always cracks me up when some Spider-man fan has the gull to call Capt a crazed fanboy because he thinks that Wolverine can beat Spider-man... and then their reasoning for Spider-man winning is that Spider-man is too fast and too strong. 🙄
Now, I can understand you thinking Spider-man would win. Hell, I think Spider-man would win but don't kid you're self it has nothing to with any strength advantage or what Spider-man fans perceive as a massive speed advantage... despite mountains of evidence that show any speed edge Spider-man has over streets (like Cap/Wolverine/Daredevil) is minuscule. Spider-man wins because he has webbing. That's it. If he decided to fight Wolverine in melee he would lose 10/10.
Now I think Capt under estimates the usefullness of Spider-man's webbing but other then he is pretty much right on the money and if you think other wise then you clearly haven't read enough Wolverine comics to justify posting in a Wolverine vs. thread.

Thank you

Originally posted by bigbran
damn, i would have won.

You are quite cocky and no you would not have. We will have the debate in this thread just so I can prove it.

Originally posted by jasofisc
sorry about your aunt capt

thanks

Originally posted by jasofisc
oh and i can save everyone a hundred page debate and tell everyone how it will go.
capt and jinzin will give facts on both characters (because they both know about both characters then Spiderman or wolverine fanboys do) then give their idea oh how wins more. their will be a coupld rational post but mainly it will be wolverine and Spiderman fan boys talking about how either Spiderman wins 1000000000/10 or how wolverine wins 999999999999999/10 all the real data will be ignored bye people like bigbran basically saying nu uh time after time and they will think they won the debate. (by the way the only way to win debate is by either the other side agreeing to your points or a
third unbiased party saying you won not by declaring that you are the winner)

Could not have said it better my self you are right on the money.

Originally posted by bigbran
why do i have to debate, when everyone should know that spiderman is above him.

Because the fact is spiderman is not above him and quite honestly you have yet to make a valid point.

Originally posted by bigbran
and dont even try to say wolverine is above iron fist.

Man your basic knowledge is incredibly low because if it was not you would know that an iron fist that kicked Danny ass, got his ass kicked by wolverine.

capt it up Senior Member

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A.J Restricted

Originally posted by capt it up
This should be funny
How does spiderman web wolverine up in the first place? Also I like to point out in there first battle spiderman gave wolverine every thing he had and he could not even wipe a smile off Logan face let a lone KO him.
Yes wolverine can it called dodging and cutting which wolverine is quite capable of doing to spidermans webs. Spiderman webbing would be moving in slow motion to Logan the same as bullets do.
He been there done that. Here are a few pictures of it.
http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineowningspidermanfq5.jpg
There are no buildings in an arena fight unless other wise stated which it was not.
What would he throw at Logan? Logan could dodge any thing spiderman throw at him. Not only that, but Logan could get up to a rough top almost as fast as spiderman could, but that hardly matter because that would be plot devices not spiderman.
Man your knowledge of Spiderman is bad, I can only wince at the thought of how bad your knowledge of Logan is. Also just so you know Logan is wolverine aka. Spiderman is not a 10 tonner, he is now a 15-20 tonner.
No he really does not. He has pretty much one option and that his webbing.
No what’s funny is your arrogance and basic lack of knowledge on both characters.
How the hell could he tie up some one who far more skilled then him and almost moves as fast? I also like to know what throwing his would accomplish
Here were your lack of knowledge hurts you dearly. Spidermans strength is almost a non issue in this fight seeing how Logan takes repeated hits form class 100 and is quite all right here one instance
http://img427.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smash2vn.jpg
Spidermans edge in both these areas is by such a small amount it will matter little do to the fact Logan skill and stamina are far more superior the spidermans.
Which can be cut or easily dodged
What does this have to do with any thing? The only thing these quirky remarks might do is put wolverine into a berserker rage which will make Spiderman’s chances of winning much less.
See the thing is your just plain wrong. Your knowledge of both wolverine and Spiderman abilities is quite bad. Wolverine has a far more likely chance of winning then the other way around my friend.
Now that explains the lack of such basic information. How do u exspect to debate some one when you do not have proper knowledge of the character you are debating for let alone the character you are debating against. If you own almost no comics then you have no evidence and most of the crap coming out of your mouth is more then likely bull shit.
You are quite arrogant and I am positive you own no one except perhaps grimm22 and that is quite a stretch as well. I can guarantee you this how ever you will in no way own me and this debate we are having.
Thank you
You are quite cocky and no you would not have. We will have the debate in this thread just so I can prove it
thanks
Could not have said it better my self you are right on the money.
Because the fact is spiderman is not above him and quite honestly you have yet to make a valid point.
Man your basic knowledge is incredibly low because if it was not you would know that an iron fist that kicked Danny ass, got his ass kicked by wolverine.

Good debating but its all bullshit, look at the facts, look at what spidey can do look at what logan can do, spidey shouldnt even be street level, he shouldnt be facing him. Its all PIS or CIS or whatever, logan does shit he shouldnt

bigbran Dead

ok, since spiderman has webbed worse than logan.
and why do i have to prove that spiderman is going to win?
im pulling out little things, because almost everyone knows spiderman is going to win.
i know spiderman is a 15- 20 tons of raw strength. but i didnt want to have a pointless arguement, so i went by his classic strength.

ok lets pull out abc logic. like you said an iron fist that kicked dannys ass, got his ass kicked by wolverine.
first of all danny is incredible now. and i know your not going to like this, but every street level jobbs to wolverine.
abc logic time. iron fist kicked the christ out of black panther, but he got tired and it was a tie.
how well did wolverine fare against black panther?

im cocky? yes sure i am. im sure you have heard how many times spiderman would kick his ass lots of times.

lack of basic information? how the hell is wolverine going to suddenly dodge everything spiderman throws at him? when he cant even dodge some hits by hulk?
how is wolverine going to defend against a speedblitz?
thor couldnt. firelord couldnt. rhino culdnt.. need i go on?

webbing. ok, what if spiderman webbs his hands up, or webs them together, so he cant cut out with his claws? how is he going to get out?
what if spiderman webs his eyes? there are so many what ifs, that spiderman uses everyday, that he can take wolverine down with.
wolverine has one option, and that is to cut him.

oh i guess all of those options wouldnt work because wolverine could either dodge them or cut them with his claws right?

i also like how you just said that they fight in an open area.
doesnt matter.
spiderman can make sheilds, web him(but that would be impossible right?), speedblitz, use his agility(but that was forgotten right?), his strength(but that doesnt matter in this fight), a couple others.

and i have tons of knowledge of both characters. i know what they can and cant do.
and unfortunenatly for wolverine.
he only got a couple chances.
his speed, agility, claws(numero uno), duribility, and his healing factor, and a hard ass body.
wolverines strength doesnt really matter in this fight, unless he retracts his claws. and we know he could cut him.

i didnt want to bring this up, but didnt dr strange beat up a wolverine, in hand to hand, that was immune to magic?
spiderman cant do more than that....
and it hasnt even been specified what suit this is.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
ok, since spiderman has webbed worse than logan.

Really now? Such as? If you mean stronger then wolverine then you would be correct how ever spiderman has never webbed up some one of wolverines skill speed and has claws able to slice right through his webbing with ease.
Also are you forgetting that spiderman was no even able to web up taskmaster. Spiderman tried to web up taskmaster and taskmaster easily cut the webbing to nothing.

Originally posted by bigbran
and why do i have to prove that spiderman is going to win?

Because that is the point of debating to prove your side wins and why. There is no reason for spiderman to take the win over wolverine more times out of 10.

Originally posted by bigbran
im pulling out little things, because almost everyone knows spiderman is going to win.

See this just makes you look dumb. You are just making up some bull shit saying that every one knows spiderman will win, when the fact is many people on this forum and many writers disagree with you.

Originally posted by bigbran
i know spiderman is a 15- 20 tons of raw strength.

You could of fooled me.

Originally posted by bigbran
but i didnt want to have a pointless arguement, so i went by his classic strength.

Nice save, but I am pretty sure you actually thought current spidermans strength was 10 tons.

Originally posted by bigbran
ok lets pull out abc logic.

Ok, but it won’t help you win this.

Originally posted by bigbran
like you said an iron fist that kicked dannys ass, got his ass kicked by wolverine.

correct

Originally posted by bigbran
first of all danny is incredible now.

He was incredible back then also. Also Danny is not much better now then he was then do you even know what comic I am speaking about?

Originally posted by bigbran
and i know your not going to like this, but every street level jobbs to wolverine.

So when ever wolverine beats some one it because there jobbing not because wolverine is there superior? Serously if this is your argument you should stop now, because you will be decimated in this debate.

Originally posted by bigbran
abc logic time.

Not going to work.

Originally posted by bigbran
iron fist kicked the christ out of black panther,

Originally posted by bigbran
but he got tired and it was a tie.

No some thing shock his head actually and black panther was the first one up.

Originally posted by bigbran
how well did wolverine fare against black panther?

Wolverine faired far better then iron fist. Wolverine in contest of champions 1 pinned black panther to the ground in two attacks or so and would have killed him if not for thing interrupting.
Hey how about I use some abc logic here. Iron fist stalemated spiderman in a fight. Wolverine not only beat an IF that kicked Danny’s ass, but wolverine has also defeat shang-chi very easily and shang-chi was totally even with IF when they fought

Originally posted by bigbran
im cocky?

correct

Originally posted by bigbran
yes sure i am.

I am glad you agree

Originally posted by bigbran
im sure you have heard how many times spiderman would kick his ass lots of times.

What you just said made almost no sense. Any ways I have heard people say wolverine would kick spidermans ass just as many times as I have heard people say spiderman would kick wolverines ass. Point is, I have seen wolverine defeat spiderman I how ever have not seen spiderman defeat wolverine
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermangoesdownwolverinestandingtc9.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
lack of basic information?

Yes you lack basic information on both character, but your lack of info on wolverine is quite ridiculous.

Originally posted by bigbran
how the hell is wolverine going to suddenly dodge everything spiderman throws at him?

Suddenly? Wolverine has done it before such as in (Spiderman vs Wolverine nuff said) when they fought in a cemetery. Also wolverine does not need to dodge every thing Spiderman throw because wolverine can easily take Spiderman best shot with a smile on his face. Also the same thing can be said for spiderman since spiderman has been hit in almost every fight he has had with wolverine.

Originally posted by bigbran
when he cant even dodge some hits by hulk?

When wolverine fights hulk he trys to do as much damage as possible and that leaves him open to attacks this is why he gets hit and also because hulk is no slow poke he can run well over 200 miles per hour. Also using hulk as an example was a pretty bad idea, seeing how spiderman has been by hulk on a number of occasions so your argument is quite void.

Originally posted by bigbran
how is wolverine going to defend against a speedblitz?

Wait a sec who says spiderman can speed blitz wolverine? Spiderman age in agility and reflex is so small it would be impossible for spiderman to ever speed blitz wolverine. Spiderman has failed to speed blitz wolverine on a number of occasions. Spiderman ahs also failed to speed blitz capt, taskmaster and a number of other street levelers.

Originally posted by bigbran
thor couldnt.

Really now? Whats issue was this and I would not lie if I were you because I will look it up. Not that it matters since wolverine ahs defeat Hercules before in contest of champions and he is thor equal.

Originally posted by bigbran
firelord couldnt.

That fight is unusable evidence stated in the rules of to forum. I could easily counter it with a wolverine feat, but there would be no point since the Spiderman vs firelord fight is unusable evidence.
“No SvFL

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.”

Originally posted by bigbran
rhino culdnt..

What kind of evidence is rhino? He a walking idiot who any character could defeat. Rhino has been beat. This is extreme funny you trying to use rhino as a feat lol. Rhino the biggest joke in comics every one beats him, so spiderman speed blitzing him is not impressive at all. Wolverine has speed blitz tiger shark before and tiger shark is a far superior villain to rhino.

Originally posted by bigbran
need i go on?

Ya you should since your other examples got chewed up and spit right back out at you.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
webbing. ok, what if spiderman webbs his hands up, or webs them together,

Again you assume spiderman could actually do this to wolverine. Wolverine far to fast and skilled to ever get his hands webbed up.
Here are a few feats of wolverine hand movement speeds that would make it quite impossible to web wolverine hands to gather.

Wolverine hand speed is amazingly fast and accurate as shown in the picture below.
http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skillandspeed0vb.jpg
(Wolverine #22) wolverine hand speed is so fast it is able to cut the darts shot out of the dart gun right out of the air. Since my scanner broken I can not show u what happen after this picture, but u can look it up your self. Not only did wolverine cut those darts out of the air, but he is so skill he made them shot into another guy with out the guy noticing.
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine347fe.jpg
Low end feat but still quite fast.
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sweet8pn.jpg
Wolverine cutting a rocket powered dart out of the air.
http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolveirnecutingbullet3yp.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
so he cant cut out with his claws? how is he going to get out?

As I have already stated and shown wolverine hand movement speed is far to fast to every allow spiderman to web his hands to gather. Wolverine will never have to care about how he would get out because he is way to fast for it to ever happen.

Originally posted by bigbran
what if spiderman webs his eyes?

Again wolverine reflexes and agility are to high to ever allows this to happen. Wolverien has dodge bullets pointed at point blank and dodge the bullet after the person already pulled the trigger such as in (x-men x-cutioner’s song chapter 6) when cable firers a gun at wolverine from point blank wolverine dodges it then cut cables gun.

Originally posted by bigbran
there are so many what ifs,that spiderman uses everyday, that he can take wolverine down with.

Not really. All the option you have mention I have proved to be quite unlikely. Spidermans only option is webbing wolverine and as I have already proofed with evidence that spiderman, going to have a hell of a time doing it.

Originally posted by bigbran
wolverine has one option, and that is to cut him.

He could cut or hit spiderman with a kick in a vital spot such as pressure points. Spiderman only has one option and that webbing.

Originally posted by bigbran
oh i guess all of those options wouldnt work because wolverine could either dodge them or cut them with his claws right?

Yup that totally correct actually which I have already proved with evidence unlike your self.

Originally posted by bigbran
i also like how you just said that they fight in an open area.

Because that what the rules are unless other wise stated they fight in an open arena

Originally posted by bigbran
doesnt matter.

It actually does matter a lot.

Originally posted by bigbran
spiderman can make sheilds,

With what his webbing? How does making shields with his webbing help when wolverine can cut through it easily. I also like to mention when has organic webbing spiderman ever made a shield?

Originally posted by bigbran
web him(but that would be impossible right?)

bigbran Dead

i know wolverine is above a speedblitz, and is also above morlun.
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e5xx.gif

also i would like to point out that you assume that i have no basic knowledge, of either character.
i know what wolverine has done in his career, i know what spiderman has done in there career.
and i also know that spiderman is in the 15-20 class strength. which you also assume i dont know, but im going by classic right now. and if you want to go by current spiderman, then wolverine goes down hard. iron spidey.
heres some spiderman against hulk.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5436347
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5436356
quicksilver.
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spydvsquicksilver1b0yd.jpg
most of my scans dont matter though because, strength doesnt matter in this fight.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5571426
web sheild.
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwebshield8pw.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3333/17211la.jpg
web gloves.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3981/17311sg.jpg
i know youll love this.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4827/bio0006qs.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6592/bio0010pn.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4319/bio0024js.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2041/bio0035ck.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7784/bio0048qr.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6906/bio0058en.jpg
but just in case you skipped this one.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6906/bio0058en.jpg
you wanted the thor one, thor only had one option.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44717.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44718.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44801.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44802.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44803.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44804.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums.../Thor_44805.jpg
x-men, what happened to wolverine in these scans? 😗
http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?...deyxmen11kx.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?...deyxmen27do.jpg
😗
http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r6r7xa5qq.jpg
listen, i could argue with you all day, and get nowhere, but i think scans speak louder.
unless you want to continue, well then be my guest.

Rick/Genis Less than Newbie

Are we still arguing about Wolverine Vs. Spiderman?

Can't we end this?

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Are we still arguing about Wolverine Vs. Spiderman?
Can't we end this?

yes or bring up the actual thread.