KMC Cyber Ninja thread

Started by srankmissingnin57 pages

Originally posted by A.J
OK How about this for impressive.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7052501

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7052507

And this.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6987059

Can spidey knock him ot ?

I think so.

... How are those feats helpful? One is Spider-man being dragged around by some missiles and the other is Ultimate Spider-man. I already knew that Spider-man was strong. I don't need to see some scans from books I own of him over powering the pull of some missiles to know this.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... How are those feats helpful? One is Spider-man being dragged around by some missiles and the other is Ultimate Spider-man. I already knew that Spider-man was strong. I don't need to see some scans from books I own of him over powering the pull of some missiles to know this.
You are saying thats not impressive, well I showed you something even more impressive.

Anybody who thinks that Logan will beat or cant be knocked out by spidey is an idiot and wont get far here on KMC.

Originally posted by A.J
How can a slim sword defect a beam of energy back at someone.

A shiny surface is a shiny surface, the area of said surface doesn't matter, espicailly when the area of the beam it's self is small. Then there is the fact that is comic book... and the sword it self is magical.

Originally posted by A.J
You are saying thats not impressive, well I showed you something even more impressive.

It's not that it isn't impressive, it's that it doesn't matter. I can post scans of Wolverine throwing darts into a dart board hitting the bullseye dead on and then throwing the rest of the darts into the back of the one it proceeded. Is it impressive? Yes. Is it in any way relevant? Nope.

... and don't waste your time looking for Spider-man feats 'cause I've seen everything you could possible dredge up.

Originally posted by A.J
Anybody who thinks that Logan will beat or cant be knocked out by spidey is an idiot and wont get far here on KMC.

Ah, the naivety of youth; how charming. 😄

Here's how things are. Capt and jinzin come and post feats and examples of Wolverine showing his speed/skill/durability and giving reasons why Wolverine would win out in the end. The Spider-man fans show up and give their incredibly insightful rebuttals like "If you think Wolverine would win you're stupid" or who could for get the classic Spider-man argument "Nuh-uh, 'cause Spider-man is like 10000 times faster."

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's not that it isn't impressive, it's that it doesn't matter. I can post scans of Wolverine throwing darts into a dart board hitting the bullseye dead on and then throwing the rest of the darts into the back of the one it proceeded. Is it impressive? Yes. Is it in any way relevant? Nope.

... and don't waste your time looking for Spider-man feats 'cause I've seen everything you could possible dredge up.

Ah, the naivety of youth; how charming. 😄

Here's how things are. Capt and jinzin come and post feats and examples of Wolverine showing his speed/skill/durability and giving reasons why Wolverine would win out in the end. The Spider-man fans show up and give their incredibly insightful rebuttals like "If you think Wolverine would win you're stupid" or who could for get the classic Spider-man argument "Nuh-uh, 'cause Spider-man is like 10000 times faster."

Thing is I'm not a spidey fan, I'm just not an idiot like those two, [well not as much jinzin] every non Logan fan mostly agrees he loses.

Originally posted by A.J
Thing is I'm not a spidey fan, I'm just not an idiot like those two, [well not as much jinzin] every non Logan fan mostly agrees he loses.

So your not a spidey fan but you just did what srankmissingnin just said spidey fanboys do with the if you think logan wins your an idiot argument. so that makes you a hater and an child. are you really sixteen on wednesday? because i thought that was just some clever line. The reason I ask that is because you debate like your sixteen when you don't give reason just if and then statements.

Originally posted by A.J
Thing is I'm not a spidey fan, I'm just not an idiot like those two, [well not as much jinzin] every non Logan fan mostly agrees he loses.

Jinzin and Cap are a far cry from being idiots; unlike the majority of people who post in Wolverine threads they know what they are talking about. Since everyone who has ever bought a comic book and harbors a grudge because a certain hairy mutant beat their favourite character jumped on the "I Hate Wolverine Bandwagon" to feel some misguided sense of camaraderie, the three Wolverine fans (Capt, jinzin and I) have to sit here and read the most moronic posts as to why people don't like Wolverine and why he loses. Stuff like "I hate Wolverine because he is way too over exposed.: Batman makes up 90% of DC's monthly titles and Spider-man is close that at Marvel (note: 90% is a hyperbole)... and yet people complain about Wolverine over exposer while singing the praises of Spider-man, Batman and Superman. People showing scans of Wolverine getting slapped by Juggy and being stunned for a few moments and say "Thats how Wolverine should be writen," ignoring the fact that he didn't even have a healing factor writen into his character at that point (and he still took blasts from Firelord). Or who could forget the "Wolverine can't cut 'INSERT CHARACTER NAME HERE' because he isn't strong enough" argument? The mountains of evidence that need to be ignored to swallow this line are vast. You might as well argue that the Flash can't see when he is going multitudes of 'c' or that Namor can't lift an oil tanker because it would break apart under it's own weight or that if Superman tried to move the moon he would crash right through it.

Wolverine and EVERY OTHER SINGLE STREET LEVEL HERO have shown time and time again that their speed is, at the very least, comparable to Spider-man's. What is the Spider-man fan's answer to that? "Nuh-uh" Scans are posted that prove such. What does the Spider-man fan say about that? "Nuh-uh" Occasionally a scan of Spider-man's speed (that everyone is already well aware of) will be shown. Someone will post speed feat for character that Spider-man is fighting and explain to them that Daredevil/Captain America/Iron Fist/Wolverine/Black Panther have comparable speed and that the feat the posted is so different. What happens then? The Spider-man will say "Okay listen Spider-man is like 100 times stronger and faster and you are an idiot if you think otherwise!" Do you not understand that it isn't a matter of opinion? It's like the speed feats shown to support characters who aren't Spider-man where fabricated or anything. They happened and they happened frequently and they are just as valid as all of Spider-man's feats. But heaven forbid you think someone beats Spider-man 'cause if you do then you clearly must be an idiot.

Originally posted by A.J

Ya to bad the reason I posted the scan that I did was to prove another of Spiderman’s feats was not out of wolverines speed, but the scan you have just posted is not the scan I was countering, how ever I can easily get multiable comic issues of wolverine feats that are as good or better then the scan u just showed such as in (marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117) when wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill takes out army of guys while dodging lasers, which is even mentioned in the text.

Do it then.


I already did

(marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117)

Originally posted by A.J
Thing is I'm not a spidey fan, I'm just not an idiot like those two, [well not as much jinzin] every non Logan fan mostly agrees he loses.

So I am an idiot now? I would out debate your ass any day of the week just like I am doing to bigbann. Please tell me why I am an idiot? You think I am an idiot becuase I believe Logan to be almost on par with spiderman in speed which I have prove time and time again. Jinzin and srank have also proven this time and time again. Your reason for insulting me are rather pathetic and you are to concerned with being liked that you now hate a character you more then likly use to enjoy. You want to jump on the we hate wolverine bann waggon well go head, but be warned you insult me again you better be able to back it up or you will be made to look the fool

Bigban MY answer to your post is on page 47

Originally posted by capt it up
So I am an idiot now? I would out debate your ass any day of the week just like I am doing to bigbann. Please tell me why I am an idiot? You think I am an idiot becuase I believe Logan to be almost on par with spiderman in speed which I have prove time and time again. Jinzin and srank have also proven this time and time again. Your reason for insulting me are rather pathetic and you are to concerned with being liked that you now hate a character you more then likly use to enjoy. You want to jump on the we hate wolverine bann waggon well go head, but be warned you insult me again you better be able to back it up or you will be made to look the fool

Bigban MY answer to your post is on page 47

😂 What a fool, I take the piss out of Logan because of fanboys who think he can beat the likes of Hercules, yesterday was the final straw

Originally posted by A.J
😂 What a fool, I take the piss out of Logan because of fanboys who think he can beat the likes of Hercules, yesterday was the final straw

You calling me a fool? debate me then me vs you and you will be made to look the fool I garentee it and oh by the way mortal hercules has been beaten by Logan.

Originally posted by capt it up
You calling me a fool? debate me then me vs you and you will be made to look the fool I garentee it and oh by the way mortal Hercules has been beaten by Logan.
Yeah which he shouldn't, how the hell can he beat Hercules, how the f*ck is a street leveler gonna beat him ?

Originally posted by A.J
Yeah which he shouldn't, how the hell can he beat Hercules, how the f*ck is a street leveler gonna beat him ?

by stabbing him.

hercules in mortal form is not that powerfull. he strong how ever and durable he can still be hurt and he has no range attacks. his reflexes and agility are also far from logans level and though skilled in wrestling his fighting skill is nuthing compared to Logans

Show me a scan of Logan being able to cut or stab someone as tough as him. It would take 1 hit and I mean 1 hit and Logan would be down, no matter how good his healing is, he would go down.

I have work, but I will answer you later and by the way mortal hercules strength and durability is not nearly as strong as you think.

Originally posted by A.J
Show me a scan of Logan being able to cut or stab someone as tough as him. It would take 1 hit and I mean 1 hit and Logan would be down, no matter how good his healing is, he would go down.

...

Do you mind if I ask what your experience with Wolverine is 'cause honestly champ you don't have clue what you're talking about.

Originally posted by A.J
Show me a scan of Logan being able to cut or stab someone as tough as him.

Sure thing champ here you go

Wolverine stabbing hulk
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max0010sjr8.jpg

wolverine slashing wrecker the version of wrecker that beat thor ass which wrecker even says in the issue the scan below is from
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned181nful4.jpg

Wolverine slashing the crap out of tiger shark
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinen20p12bm0.jpg

Wolverine stabbing grey hulk badly
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logan20vs20fixit2tk6.jpg

Here a pick of wolverine stab through the tail of strongest version of wendigo. The wendigo that would destroy Hercules in battle.
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25rj6.jpg

wolverine slashing wendigo
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wendi1io3.jpg

Wolverine in another fight stabbing wendigo for the KO
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wendi3jf8.jpg

Wolverine stabbing namor

http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvievsnamormg1.jpg

wolverine cutting thing
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinecuttinthingih6.jpg

wolverine stabbing thanos
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolviestabsthanosqt5.jpg

This is just some evidence and not nearly all of it that wolverine can easily cut and stab Hercules

Originally posted by A.J
It would take 1 hit and I mean 1 hit and Logan would be down, no matter how good his healing is, he would go down.

What the hell are you on? Wolverine takes hits from hulk, namor, thing, tiger shark, rough-house, sas colossus and many others with out being KOed how is Hercules going to nock Logan out when many other just as strong have failed to do so?

Originally posted by capt it up
Sure thing champ here you go

Wolverine stabbing hulk
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max0010sjr8.jpg

wolverine slashing wrecker the version of wrecker that beat thor ass which wrecker even says in the issue the scan below is from
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned181nful4.jpg

Wolverine slashing the crap out of tiger shark
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinen20p12bm0.jpg

Wolverine stabbing grey hulk badly
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logan20vs20fixit2tk6.jpg

Here a pick of wolverine stab through the tail of strongest version of wendigo. The wendigo that would destroy Hercules in battle.
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25rj6.jpg

wolverine slashing wendigo
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wendi1io3.jpg

Wolverine in another fight stabbing wendigo for the KO
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wendi3jf8.jpg

Wolverine stabbing namor

http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvievsnamormg1.jpg

wolverine cutting thing
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinecuttinthingih6.jpg

wolverine stabbing thanos
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolviestabsthanosqt5.jpg

This is just some evidence and not nearly all of it that wolverine can easily cut and stab Hercules

What the hell are you on? Wolverine takes hits from hulk, namor, thing, tiger shark, rough-house, sas colossus and many others with out being KOed how is Hercules going to nock Logan out when many other just as strong have failed to do so?

sorry, but anyone who uses wolverine stabbing a tail, or wolverine cutting thanos(with the ig, which is obviously pis) isnt worth debating with.
and ide rather debate about cosmics, not street levels, if you ever notice, im not in those threads.
im sorry if i dont seem knowledgable, but believe me i am very knowlegdable!!
look i know you like wolverine a lot, but i have never seen you ever say he loses. hell thanos is my character, and i say he loses all the time.
i know about wolverine, seriously, i do, but know i can never show it, because you told me never to argue for him.
honestly, wolverine is a kick ass character, hes a brawler, talks smack, a mean ass atittude, and thats probably why people like him so much.
just that some people can take him.
i never said spiderman is going to curbstomp him, i did say he will win 6/10. its not unreasonable for that to happen.
and we all know wolverine can cut him, why would you even show proof that he can? no really.

ps. i was joking about taking on your whole team, if you havent noticed, not everyone is serious. 😄

Originally posted by bigbran
sorry, but anyone who uses wolverine stabbing a tail, or wolverine cutting thanos(with the ig, which is obviously pis) isnt worth debating with.
and ide rather debate about cosmics, not street levels, if you ever notice, im not in those threads.
im sorry if i dont seem knowledgable, but believe me i am very knowlegdable!!
look i know you like wolverine a lot, but i have never seen you ever say he loses. hell thanos is my character, and i say he loses all the time.
i know about wolverine, seriously, i do, but know i can never show it, because you told me never to argue for him.
honestly, wolverine is a kick ass character, hes a brawler, talks smack, a mean ass atittude, and thats probably why people like him so much.
just that some people can take him.
i never said spiderman is going to curbstomp him, i did say he will win 6/10. its not unreasonable for that to happen.
and we all know wolverine can cut him, why would you even show proof that he can? no really.

yo do realize my scanns were to show wolverine can cut hercules becuase me and Aj are having a debate against wolverine vs hercules. I have said wolverine would lose loads of times vs a number of characters.

My debate with you is on page 47. You really should be more observent

here is my response to you post it was on page 47

Originally posted by bigbran
cant tell you the issues at the moment.

Why am I not surprised at all. I frankly think you need to read up on your comics before debating some one who has 1000s of them and reads them constantly

Originally posted by bigbran
but the point of those scans was to prove Spiderman is faster than wolverine.

Which you failed to do. I match every one of your scans with one of wolverine feats that was better or equally as impressive. Also why would web gloves have any thing to do with speed? Also you have yet to prove spiderman is faster at all let lone by the amount you kept assuming.

Originally posted by bigbran
im up to date on what wolverine can do,

No you clearly are not. You’re far from up to date on any thing concerning wolverine or his abilities.

Originally posted by bigbran
and what spiderman can do.

No you really don’t.

Originally posted by bigbran
and i think spidey is taking it 6/10.

Wel;l every one is entitled to ther option though I do not agree with yours. Though it seems I have gotten through to you, before you were saying 8-9/10 spiderman so it seems I am making some progress.

Originally posted by bigbran
but your saying nothing that spidey can do will work on wolverine, and i disagree.

No, I am saying that the majority of the time it will not work on wolverine and your arguments have been less the convincing that they will work at all, but I have extensive knowledge on Spiderman so I do how ever know Spiderman will take some wins. Though however not the majority.

Originally posted by bigbran
your right, i did get those from the respect thread,

I new it hahaha
Originally posted by bigbran
but why would i get them myself, when there right there
.
Well as I recall you said you hardly owned any comics at all so how would you have gotten them if there was no respect thread? You also more then likely own not a single one of those issues that the scans are from which means you really have no knowledge of what really happening in the scans because your only seeing part of a whole event. Also I don’t care if you use scans from the respect thread, but the fact is all you did was take the scans and post them here with out giving reason for why you posted them. Most of the scans were quite useless in this debate and were merely a waist of my time.

Originally posted by bigbran
look i dont really care about this debate,
.
As I recall you were the one talking all kinds of smack about how you could out debate me jinzin and srank at once which is just extremely funny. You do not care about the debate any longer because you are being destroyed and are being made to look the fool because of your cocky attitude. You should learn not to talk so big if you can not back it up my friend.

Originally posted by bigbran
but when someone has to pm you, just to try and prove something, then i guess i have to cum here.
.
Dam right I PMed you did you think I would let you talk that kind a smack about my group and get away with it about how you can own us lol don’t make me laugh.

Originally posted by bigbran
and your saying i dont know alot about wolverine,

Because you clearly don’t.

Originally posted by bigbran
let me say this.
IM NOT ARGUEING FOR WOLVERINE!!!

Ya so? Just because your not arguing for wolverine does not mean you should not know basic info on him. Hell I argue against Spiderman all the time and I have extensive know on Spiderman abilities and his character development. Also on a side not please!!!! do not argue for wolverine ever please!!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
but that doesn’t mean i dont know his feats.

No your right that does not mean you don’t know his feats, but the fact is you don’t know his feats at all and you have proved this time and time against. Do you even know his strength level or his record vs namor or his record vs spiderman or vs hulk.

Originally posted by bigbran
in a better thread i could argue for wolverine.

What do you mean a better thread? Also like I said please do not ever argue for wolverine. Also I would like to add that this we are having is to prove who the better debater is.
Originally posted by bigbran
and i would also like to know what spidey, and wolves we are using now.

So like I thought you have yet to read a single post of mine fully. I have stated 3 times that we are using current Spiderman with out iron spidy suit vs current wolverine minus the sword

Originally posted by bigbran
if cap can hit wolves, then im pretty sure spiderman can.

Did I ever say spiderman can not hit wolverine? Also what would hit do to wolverine? Spiderman would leave him self open for an attack and wolverine would be almost unfazed by the hit. Also did you just use capt hitting wolverine as evidence? Seeing how Capt has easily hit Spiderman such as in spiderman cival war issue 4 if I am not mistaken

Originally posted by bigbran
look spiderman is fast and agile enough to hit wolverine.

Yes and wolverine is fast and agile enough to hit Spiderman as seen in almost ever single encounter of there’s
Originally posted by bigbran
and why would wolverine be as fast as spiderman?

Because wolverine has superhuman agility and reflexes and ahs proven time and time again to be nearly as fast as Spiderman in combat. Wolverine has also proven this while fight spiderman as well. Spiderman edge in speed is so slight that it becomes almost a non factor in this battle.

Originally posted by bigbran
and doesnt spiderman have a little thing called spider senses, to keep him from getting hit? correct me if im wrong here.

You are correct spiderman does in fact have a spider sense, but how ever I have already told you wolverine senses can work almost as effective in knowing attacks before they are made such as in the scan below
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17bf83e4ip1.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
even if strength doesnt matter(which im pretty sure it would help spiderman)

It really does not help spiderman much at all it pretty much a non factor since his best shots can’t faze wolverine let a lone KO him.

Originally posted by bigbran
spiderman has his speed, agility and his spider senses.
to help him from getting hit.

wolverine has speed, agility, senses, fighting skill and so on which will aloow him to hit spiderman.

Originally posted by bigbran
sure wolverine has fast reflexes, but is there a way for him to avoid getting hit?

Along with agility speed and sense which will all aid him in not getting hit. What do you mean is there a way for him to avoid getting hit? It’s called dodging. Also as I have already showed you wolverine ahs dodged spiderman quite eaisliy before as seen below in the scan.
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spiderpunch7uxkh8.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
and the reason for the web sheilds, is for a bit of a distraction.

It would really help to read my posts instead of just scanning through them. I asked you to prove that current spiderman can make web shield since he no longer uses his web shooters. I also asked for you to prove spiderman can make a web shield at all since you need at least 3 instances that are similar to that feat to make it usable info. Also how would that web shield distract wolverine when he can easily cut it?

Originally posted by bigbran
plus spideys a smart fighter,

Yes he a smart person and fighter, but he not skilled not like wolverine. He also so were as smart as wolverine combat wise.

Originally posted by bigbran
hes not going to walk into wolverines claws.

There no reason for spiderman to walk into wolverine claws since wolverine will be pushing the claws through spiderman.

Originally posted by bigbran
and again, how is wolverine going to dodge every web that goes at him?

Quite easiliy actauly since webbing is no were near the speed of bullets or lazers. Also wolverine does not need to dodge all the webbing when he can merely cut it as well.

Originally posted by bigbran
it would seem to me, from what your telling me, is that wolverine can dodge everything that spidey can throw.

Not punches no wolverine would get hit with a few as would Spiderman be stabbed a few times, but webbing is far slower then Spiderman and wolverine can easily dodge it or cut it with out difficulty really.

Originally posted by bigbran
i will admit that wolverine is fast, but spiderman, is in another league of all that shinanigans.

No he not not at all. Wolverine ahs proven time and time again to be in the same speed class as spiderman as well as other top tier street levelers. Please prove spiderman is a whole nuther league over wolverine in combat speed please I am begging for some evidence of this.