The System of the United States of America

Well, since we already had a long debate in the Communism & Dictatorship Thread that didn't turn out a clear solution, I will just start this Thread so we do not further derail the one about Communism.

The Question is this: What is the System of the US best described as. The two major opinions were that is is either a Federal Republic (obviously with democratic tradition) or a Federal Republic but at the same time a Democracy. This Thread is obviously not limited to those two views so please, if you think it is a monarchy, tell us why.

Im gonna add something productive to this when I get home. But in the meantime:

Bardock the dude your avatar looks like Bucky from captain america 😐

Originally posted by Blaxican Style
Im gonna add something productive to this when I get home. But in the meantime:

Bardock the dude your avatar looks like Bucky from captain america 😐

I see...well, it is Richard Davalos....

Sorry, it to be said.

A democratic Federal Republic....

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
A democratic Federal Republic....

Yes, and I think at the same time it is a Democracy. At least if we go by the definition of Democracy as we have it in this English language.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, and I think at the same time it is a Democracy. At least if we go by the definition of Democracy as we have it in this English language.

Yes, it's true name would be a Representative Democratic Federal Republic.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Yes, it's true name would be a Representative Democratic Federal Republic.

Why not Federal Republicic Representative Democracy?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why not Federal Republicic Representative Democracy?

Because....mine sounds cooler?

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Because....mine sounds cooler?

If that's the only reason I agree.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If that's the only reason I agree.

We both said the same thing, just different arrangements...But I agree with you... It is both.

Democratic Federal republic. Democratic yes, but if you strip down the government and have to describe it with one word, its a republic. Then democratic and federal are added to completely describe it.

I believe my position is well known to those who frequent these threads 😂

United States = Republic. Just because it has some democratic ideas doesn't make it a real democracy.

Oh look at this, right from dictionary.com:

"de·moc·ra·cy
[...]
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
[...]
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc."

Seems like it is a Democracy after all. I mean you guys agreed that it has a democratic government. So, now, is there any reason why this definition should not be accepted?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh look at this, right from dictionary.com:

"de·moc·ra·cy
[...]
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
[...]
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc."

Seems like it is a Democracy after all. I mean you guys agreed that it has a democratic government. So, now, is there any reason why this definition should not be accepted?

Because the founding fathers themselves agreed that it was a federal republic with reserved rights for individuals? Because "democracy" became a contemporary catchphrase in the Cold War and WWII to denote an ideal of freedom and will of the people which doesn't exist like it's implied in the basic definition of "rule by the people". Because ancient Rome was virtually the same with the exception of reserved rights for individuals and a constitution, and no one calls it a democracy by definitinon.

Yet regardless of all that the definition of the word 'Democracy' clearyl fits that of the Government of the United States. Absolutely explicitly, it does that.

In no realistic manner does the word 'Democracy' refer to direct rule by the people any more. Not in the slightest.

Those trying to say it is are clinging onto an irrelevant anachronism, totally out of character with the way the word is used today. Bardock's dictionary quotations defeat that position entirely.

Rome was a Republic but not even vaguely a Democracy. The franchise was too restricted, it was not people power. The comparison is fatuous.

There is much more detail to the US than the democratic government. I know democracy applies to more than direct democracy. It still does not make the US a democracy. Wait a week, I'll have sources for you and will have read yours.

Practiacally every govenrment in the world claims to be a democracy. That doesn't mean they are, just having some sort of people rule does not mean you are a democracy, you're just using some democratic principles (democratic government)

Other.

America is not a Democracy, in theory no country has been one since Ancient Athens. America is infact an Oligarchy!

how is that?

To be a democratic country everyone should have the chance to become a Senator, Councillor, or even President.

This is not the case in the USA.