ROTS Obi and Yoda vs ROTS Anikan and Sidious

Originally posted by Mysterious Man
No,they aren't.Do you even listen to the commentary by GL on the bonus disks?Palpy had his ass handed to him by Mace,and Saesee hesitates in the movie,see the scene again.And for the last time!KIT'S STYLE IS NOT MADE FOR SABER TO SABER COMBAT!!!! 🙄

And Sidious is going to underestimate Obi-Wan just like he underestimated Vader and Luke,and to quote Luke ROTJ: "Your overconfidence is your weakness." ,which isn't exactly far from the truth.Again,he might defeat Obi-Wan,but he certainly won't insta kill him. 🙄

Although I do not belive much that Sidious faked it GL never said Mace won fair and square, he said he overpowered him, just as he said Anakin did vs Dooku... And Obi-Wan's style is not made for saber to saber combat either, it is defencive....

Originally posted by Mysterious Man
No,they aren't.Do you even listen to the commentary by GL on the bonus disks?Palpy had his ass handed to him by Mace,and Saesee hesitates in the movie,see the scene again.And for the last time!KIT'S STYLE IS NOT MADE FOR SABER TO SABER COMBAT!!!! 🙄

And Sidious is going to underestimate Obi-Wan just like he underestimated Vader and Luke,and to quote Luke ROTJ: "Your overconfidence is your weakness." ,which isn't exactly far from the truth.Again,he might defeat Obi-Wan,but he certainly won't insta kill him. 🙄

And I'll say it again: ROTS novelization and the visional dictionaries call Kit one of the best duelists the order had produced....hey, Obi-wan's style wasn't made for defense either. Soresu was originally intended to deflect blaster bolts.

And underestimate Obi-wan when Yoda's around? Just like he underestimated Agen and Saesee? Once more: I'm seeing no evidence to how Obi-wan can last a second against Sidious's assault. Actually provide something instead of continuously saying "He won't."

mysterious man is right. Obi vs Palps and Yoda vs Anakin. Anakin gets WTF pwnd in less than 20 seconds. Since Obi-wans style is more defensive, he'll be able to hold out until Yoda comes to his aid. Even if Sidious uses force powers, Obi can blcok them with his lightsaber (or in the case of force choke or crush, it'll take a while to kill him). Meanwhile Anakin gets annihilated quickly by yoda with a LIGHTSABER(you can kill people a lot faster with a saber than with the Force). Even if both Anakin and Obi-Wan die, and Yoda and Sidious match up Yoda will own him. There are no places for Palpatine to hide and chuck stuff at Yoda, like in the senate. Yoda would PWN him. End of story, the good guys win.

It'll a take a while to kill him with crush or choke? Sidious clenches a fist and the crush'll break all of Obi's bones...and Yoda, by his own thoughts in the EU, knwos he couldn't defeat Palpatine

I always got the impression that was more philosophical musing, rather than Yoda thinking that he was inferior to Sidious.

Yoda's thoughts don't seem to leave much for philosophy...he realizes, to quote 'he just doesn't have it'

Obi couldn't resist a force choke from Dooku. Sidious' would destroy him.

And Yoda would kill Anakin even faster. THen while Sids is finishing off Obi, Yoda comes in from the side and KILLS him.

I seriously doubt Yoda would take Anakin so easily. Anakin was extremely formidable

Anakin dies to Obi Wan.

Yoda and Obi Wan outnumber and outmuscle Sidious.

Unless there's a Padme around to make Ani jealous...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Unless there's a Padme around to make Ani jealous...

Actually, it's because Anakin was out of his mind with grief and rage over Padme. Obi-wan is on the retreat for most of the fight and wins because of a mistake Anakin never would have made under different circumstances.

No. He was not superior to Anakin. Listen to the RotS commentary. Anakin was more powerful and the better duelist on Mustafar. Stated by George Lucas.

Keep in mind Anakin was terribly overwhelmed by grief on Mustafar. Yet he was still Obi's superior.

Sith win. Yoda isn't that much better than Anakin (if better at all) and would not "pwn" him by any stretch of the imagination.

Keep in mind that Anakin is an ill-tempered brute.

Obi Wan, a man of considerable persuasion would toy wiht Anakin's feelings until the ignoramus makes a mistake. At that, point Anakin would make a fatal slip and get pwned. It has been demonstrated time and time again.

Sidious meanwhile would be stalemating Yoda as always, until Obi Wan comes in. Together the good guys win.

Oh, and what about Obi-wan's feelings? He wasn't exactly stable after the battle

RotS Anakin fought stupid... once? And that was because of Padme.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, and what about Obi-wan's feelings? He wasn't exactly stable after the battle

During the battle friend. During the battle, Obi Wan would keep his feelings in check like a true Jedi.

RotS Anakin fought stupid... once? And that was because of Padme.

There was a second time as well. He was a hot headed brute. He tried to use two sabers to take out Dooku... thats how he lost an arm. Arrogance and charging into the fight like an animal won't do much good against a Jedi trained in defense and using the enemies rage against them.

Obi-wan hesitated quite a bit in the battle. He was on defensive almost the entire time.

And AOTC is before ROTS. OBi-wan's made his series of dumb mistakes when he was a kid

He didn't fight stupid against Dooku in RotS. Where he wasn't hotheaded at all. That was really our only indication of Anakin's fighting prowess, since it was his only fight under normal circumstances.