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Originally posted by Wizardkid233
Ray Lewis the best middle linbacker Tom Brady best quaterback priest homels best rinning back terrel owens best wr

I dont know about any of those.
Tom Brady is good, but he's a bit iffy on the run, and hes no the best desicion maker. Here are my favorites.

QBs
Terms of Thowing skill - Mcnabb
Under pressure/On the run - Vick
Descion maker - Pennington
Overall - Daunte Culpepper

WR
Sure catcher - Randy Moss
Run after catch - Santana Moss
Overall - Price

RB
Power Runner - Bettis (duh)
Finesse - Warrick Dunn (doesnt run a lot, but is pretty good when he does)
Overall - Curtis Martin

LB
Coverage - Ray Lewis
Run stopper - A tie between Urlacher/Brooking/Vilma
Overall - Tie between Vilma/Lewis

DE
Run stopper - Dunno
Sacking - Tie between Kerney and J. Abraham

Rookie of the Year: John Vima. Average of 5 tackles a game, in his rookie year? you cant deny that.

Originally posted by Dwarfdude
I dont know about any of those.
Tom Brady is good, but he's a bit iffy on the run, and hes no the best desicion maker. Here are my favorites.

QBs
Terms of Thowing skill - Mcnabb
Under pressure/On the run - Vick
Descion maker - Pennington
Overall - Daunte Culpepper

WR
Sure catcher - Randy Moss
Run after catch - Santana Moss
Overall - Price

RB
Power Runner - Bettis (duh)
Finesse - Warrick Dunn (doesnt run a lot, but is pretty good when he does)
Overall - Curtis Martin

LB
Coverage - Ray Lewis
Run stopper - A tie between Urlacher/Brooking/Vilma
Overall - Tie between Vilma/Lewis

DE
Run stopper - Dunno
Sacking - Tie between Kerney and J. Abraham

Rookie of the Year: John Vima. Average of 5 tackles a game, in his rookie year? you cant deny that.

have to disagree
peyton manning has the best arm and vick can throw is farther then about anyone
brady isnt the best athlete but hes calm and one of the best decision makers
vick is good on the run but not a great decision maker

wr i agree but i dont think price is the best overall.. randy moss, chad johnson, to one of them

warrick dunn definantly not that great of a RB anymore maybe a few years ago the falcons even split a lot of his carriers with tj ducket now.

and you have to be crazy to give rookie of the year to anyone but Ben Rothlesburger he is undefeated(has the rookie QB record) and his team is #1 overall (tied for best record but beat the other 2 they are tied with)

Ive always felt that Hines Ward is the most complete receiver in the NFL. He's the best blocking wide receiver in the game and his receiving numbers aren't all that far off from Owens or Moss.

QB:
Throwing skill: Manning
Running/Under Pressure: McNabb (did you see the game against dallas0
Overall: Manning (is probalby goin to have the best stats for a QB ever)

WR:
Sure catch: Moss
YAC: Dont know
Overall: Harrison

RB:
Power: Bettis
Finess: James
Overall: Alexander

LB:
Run Stopper: Sharper
Overall: Lewis

I think your assessment on Vilma is a tad bit far fetched. Granted he is an excellent player, but to call him the best linebacker in the NFL is going to far.

On the run, how can you pick anyone but Vick? Vick is the closest thing to Barry Sanders we've seen since Barry retired.

Well i know that but i also meant underpressure which is completly different than just running. Vick's fast as hell and has alot of moves but when he's under pressure he gets sacked. McNabb when under pressure gets touchdowns. I personally think Vick is overrated.

I think the best QB is Mcnabb for one reason, the fact that besides this season, he was great with nobody on the WR end, Peyton and Culpepper has had Randy Moos and Marvin Harrison the whole time.
The best running back is Ladanlian(sp?) Tomlinson. He is a great running back and he can catch the ball better than any running back IMO.
LB: its gotta be Ray Lewis. He can stop the run and get a lot of tackles. He also gets a lot of interceptions for a LB.
Rookie of the year: Ben Roethisberger hands down.
The best WR is Randy Moss. He can out run you for big gains. He can jump over you to make spactacular catches. He has great hands and almost catches anything you throw to him.

We'll see what you think of Rothlisbeger when Ellis, Abraham, and Ferguson take him down to meet the dirt next week...

BTW, I'm an admant Jets fan.

No, really. You a jets fan? Get out of town. I couldnt see that coming.

Originally posted by Samas-adian
Well i know that but i also meant underpressure which is completly different than just running. Vick's fast as hell and has alot of moves but when he's under pressure he gets sacked. McNabb when under pressure gets touchdowns. I personally think Vick is overrated.

exactly vick is the best athlete and he can run better then any QB but he cant throw as good as say mcnab while scrambling and under pressure

Eagles won!!! but Vikings lost. But Green Bay lost too so we are still tied for first!!

incorrect green bay has the tie breaker so they are in first the vikings are in the WC hunt as of now.. they have to have a better record to get 1st

Originally posted by Dwarfdude
Here are my favorites.

QBs
Terms of Thowing skill - Mcnabb
Under pressure/On the run - Vick

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Overall - Tie between Vilma/Lewis

DE
Run stopper - Dunno
Sacking - Tie between Kerney and J. Abraham

Rookie of the Year: John Vima. Average of 5 tackles a game, in his rookie year? you cant deny that.

Well, he said they were his favorites, not necessarily the best in the league.

Originally posted by Dwarfdude
We'll see what you think of Rothlisbeger when Ellis, Abraham, and Ferguson take him down to meet the dirt next week...

BTW, I'm an admant Jets fan.

Well, considering Roethlisberger gets back up after every hit, I think we'll think just fine of him. Abraham's injured, BTW.

You guys will have to excuse me for being a totally clueless Australian...but I havent been able to watch much NFL on Foxtel this season and I need to know how the Raiders are doing???...bad no doubt, knowing the luck of the teams I go for...

They are standing at 4-8 so you might want to check back next year. They had every chance to beat the Chiefs yesterday but couldn't get down the field fast enough to try to tie the game.

On a positive note, Kerry Collins is playing well and he is making a case for starting QB for the team come 2005.

both detriot and the chargers won but once again detroit fans will have to wait another year to be a playoff contendor...they need to fire Millen..when they lose they blame harrington when they win they praise Millen.....bull shit

Originally posted by wuTa
both detriot and the chargers won but once again detroit fans will have to wait another year to be a playoff contendor...they need to fire Millen..when they lose they blame harrington when they win they praise Millen.....bull shit

Sadly, the Lions are still in playoff contention in the weak NFC. Minnesota leads the way for the first wild card with a 7-5 record, then it is the Rams with a 6-6 record--after that it's all 5-7 teams (including Detroit). In fact, they are only behind the Vikings, Rams and Carolina for a spot.

yea i know there still in mathimatically but c'mon who here think they will get that last spot...im rootin fot them but unless barry sanders comes out of retirement they're not going anywhere