Originally posted by zephiel7
Where is the proof? Proof that he was alone when he fought Assajj. I have at least provided the proof, you are continuing to go with unsupported assumptions.
Um . . . Revan fought Asajj? Did he use a Time Machine?
You're a hypocritical moron, Zephiel. Revan having his friends with him when he defeated Bandon IS NOT CANON.
Learn it, accept it, and deal with it.
Um, as I recall, in Obsession she was able to hold of Anakin and Obi wan, and that was solely because Obi wasn't even putting his all into the fight. Remember, Obi wan wanted to save Assajj, it was Anakin who was giving it everything he had.
Yeah, and Anakin got outmaneuvered right away. He only got a surprise attack on her when she was on the ground and had been shot.
The description by Bioware places Bandon as a dark Jedi who felled many Jedi. And where is this BS you snapped out of thin air supporting that Assajj received more training? Bandon was trained by Malak himself, considered apprentice to the dark lord. Malak sent Bandon only on THE most dangerous missions, one of which included subduing his old master! Assajj was an expendable tool that Dooku shitted into the field. If this is going to degenerate into feat wars, then I might as well state that Ragnos is a nobody who could do diddly squat because he has never defeated "Jedi masters."
You make so sense . . . and that works in my favor here.
Asajj was chosen by Dooku himself. And you don't think Bandon was an expendable tool? Do you think if Bandon had failed and came back alive Malak would have spared him? He was chosen because of his power and he failed his dangerous mission.
Asajj has tooled at least nineteen Jedi, Zephiel. Bandons number could be five or ten . . . Hell, you don't know if it's more or less. You're just throwing random punches and hoping they'll land.
Not to mention Bandon was defeated by a weak and amnesiac Revan. And he kicked the crap out of his goons.
Oh and typical that you put in Bandon's defeat against Revan. Then let me guess, everybody who has ever died against a powerful combatant must be a weakling? See, your entire argument for Bandon's weakness is completely and utterly fallacy ridden.
There's nothing fallible here, you pseudo intellect. Bandon still wasn't good enough and got smashed. Who did Bandon defeat? What did he do that we saw that was important? Oh. All you got is a sentence saying "Bandon felled many Jedi."
And you say my argument is fallacy?
L-O-L!
And because Bandon was never given direct orders by Malak to kill the Jedi Masters (who were very nearly untraceable at the time), you are automatically putting Assajj over him? Ridiculous.
Untraceable? Bandon had found Revan. I'm sure he just happened to be waiting outside for him with two Dark Jedi NOT KNOWING where he was.
We are not working with IF's. Stop trying to steer the debate into wild goose chases where "ifs" matter. Bandon was chosen by Malak due to his abilitiy in the force. I still await proof for your ridiculous claim, that the brutish and headstrong Malak would choose his apprentice based on his strategic abilities. Malak had admirals to worry about strategy. My proof is later down. Keep reading.
His COMBAT strategics, moron! You think Strategics are just something admirals use? Are you truly that dense and stupid?
I guess in order to use tactics and strategics when defeating my opponents or using a Lightsaber, I have to be an Admiral now, right?
WRONG!
Malak obviously chose the wrong guy. Bandon got beat down. You think just because Malak chose him he is automatically some uber Dark Jedi? Yeah . . . RIGHT!
Malak was a moron who failed perpetually at stopping the group and he died against a memory-wiped Revan when Malak had Republic Soldiers' energy at his disposal. Malak had f*cked up several times. Bandon was just another f*ck up.
And you dismiss Bandon as Assaj's inferior because he was defeated by Revan? He was chosen by the Malak because of his ability to fight. It is explained in the quote that I brought out earlier in my previous post. It is also stated later down.
^ You've said that already.
Read above. I've already countered that crap.
Whatever. All bluster and no bite. Way to make a point.I showed you before and highlighted the passage.
Blah, Blah, Blah . . . Pointless insults.
Moving on:
Dont try and deconstruct the meaning to suit what you want. Great strength in the force is just what it means. He was adept at using the force, and he sought power with it. This was to such an extent, that over an ORDER full of Sith, Malak chose Bandon as his own second hand man.
You cannot use that as evidence of his defeat against Asajj anymore.
"He was chosen, tho!11"
^ Is that your proof of Bandon defeating Asajj? Fine, Asajj was chosen by Dooku. Oh, and Asajj didn't fail the first mission she was given like Bandon did. She had gone up against powerful Jedi and prevailed. Near the end, she was shot by surprise, not killed because a lack of skill.
Does it say anything about tactical abilities. NO. Not at all. Keep calling me a hypocrite if it makes you happy. Hypocrite.
^ Pointless post. Moving on:
Oh great. I mean I am impressed by your willingness to offer proof to back up your assumptions.I mean everything that "Antediluvian" does must be official Canon. I offered reliable information from databank while you continue to operate on assumptions. I will be waiting.
Hypocrisy and bullshit together equals mayhem on your part, Zephiel.
Here's some of Asajj's databank, which looks much longer and more impressive than Bandons. She was chosen too, Except she's gone up against the best and has survived. She's killed Politicians, Jedi, Warlords, Gladiators and other Force users:
"One of the most deadly and tragic opponents to emerge from the battlefields of the Clone Wars was Asajj Ventress."
"As a result, she had the skills of the Jedi combined with a raw, unfocused talent in the Force. She never controlled her instinctual fury"
"Asajj's rage fueled her power, and she clawed her way up to a position of authority on the lawless world of Rattatak. She conquered and imprisoned most of the remaining warlords, including Osika Kirske, whom she would eventually kill. She could best any of the monstrous combatants in the gladiatorial games held regularly on the world."
"Ventress' raw talent and fierce determination impressed Dooku. The charismatic leader of the Confederacy was able to recruit the young warrior"
"Her raw talents and bottomless well of anger and pain bolstered her dark side abilities. Giving into her rage granted her further powers."