Ok the whole bullet crap is garbage lol because Sharingan eye could see him in like slow motion. I don't even think they were bullets in Naruto so he probably could of did the same, Sasuke the most. As for his sword slashing big monsters crap? Well anyone with any kind of power could cut thos ethings because it is a good sword lol that does the slashing; not like he did a Karate chop, he used a sword ahhh. OK, I didn't even doubt Luffy's power, so the scan with him doing something to the monster, I already know Luffy is more powerful than Naruto people lol.
The only thing I give you is that building lifting scan which is pretty good lol but Strength alone can not win a Match agains't Naruto and Sasuke. They have all kind of range attacks for one, they are not slow at all and Sasuke has Sharingan to see them slowed down. Remember he also has Rock lee's speed after copying it and training from Kakashi so Naruto team has the speed advantage. Heck they are not weak either, they taken alot of abuse and get slammed into mountains and stuff. I don't remember them lifting anything to big though but there speed/range attacks will do it. You all said you didn't care about even if he was demon LOL no if Naruto was Demon it would be slaughter, I am talking about atleast the Demon that came out while he was fighting sasuke for the second time. Attacks from Zoro and Sanji wouldn't penetrate the Demons Aura to begin with, that's why I said no Demon. So Rock lee speed(Way faster than Rock lee's old speed since this is later in the series and he had more training plus a Chidori attack while going that fast? and seeing them in slow motion lol......Sasuke and Naruto beats Zoro and Sanji.
Did I mention Naruto with over a 100 Demon clones at once? Nope, how on earth can he beat them with all those clones out/ them not knowing which Naruto it is which leaves time for sneak attacks. I could go on and on.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Ok the whole bullet crap is garbage lol because Sharingan eye could see him in like slow motion. I don't even think they were bullets in Naruto so he probably could of did the same, Sasuke the most.
Sharigan can just predict movements, and remember what rock lee said when he fought sasuke. Even if he can see the movement, if it's too fast he can't dodge it.
And when has naruto dodged a speeding bullet?
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
As for his sword slashing big monsters crap? Well anyone with any kind of power could cut thos ethings because it is a good sword lol that does the slashing; not like he did a Karate chop, he used a sword ahhh.
Are you serious, are you aware that zoro's swords have no magical properties. There just well made, do you know how much arm strength it would take to cut throught something that thick with on arm?
Originally posted by RicodrayzOK, I didn't even doubt Luffy's power, so the scan with him doing something to the monster, I already know Luffy is more powerful than Naruto people lol.
Are you serious?
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
The only thing I give you is that building lifting scan which is pretty good lol but Strength alone can not win a Match agains't Naruto and Sasuke. They have all kind of range attacks for one
PFFT, like what, please enlight me? Rasengan, last I checked that was not a ranged attack neither is chidori.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
, they are not slow at all and Sasuke has Sharingan to see them slowed down. Remember he also has Rock lee's speed after copying it and training from Kakashi[QUOTE=7868977]Originally posted by Ricodrayz
[B]No, he has his techniques not speed and I haven't even touched speed feats.
[QUOTE=7868977]Originally posted by Ricodrayz
[B]
so Naruto team has the speed advantage. Heck they are not weak either, they taken alot of abuse and get slammed into mountains and stuff.
Slammed into moutains, who got slammed into moutains?
And naruto team has speed advantage based on what speed feats does naruto or sasuke have.
Originally posted by RicodrayzI don't remember them lifting anything to big though but there speed/range attacks will do it.
too bad they have none of the above.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
You all said you didn't care about even if he was demon LOL no if Naruto was Demon it would be slaughter, I am talking about atleast the Demon that came out while he was fighting sasuke for the second time.
Wow, now your starting to sound like a narutard. You admitted you have not read far into the manga. Yet, make gross assumptions on there abilities and exaggerate naruto's own ability.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Attacks from Zoro and Sanji wouldn't penetrate the Demons Aura to begin with, that's why I said no Demon.
Zoro has the ability to cut through anything, had you known what your opponent can do. You would
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
So Rock lee speed(Way faster than Rock lee's old speed since this is later in the series and he had more training plus a Chidori attack while going that fast? and seeing them in slow motion lol......Sasuke and Naruto beats Zoro and Sanji.
Sasuke does not have the Rock lee's speed, and why would it matter if he did. Cp9, have a speed technique called soru, it works by stomping on the ground 10 times and moving faster than the human eye can see. Hell jyabura using soru could attack at four directions at once (So can luffy) Sanji kept up with him like nothing. Zoro ran past a crowd of hundreds of men and was only noticed when he stopped to attack.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Did I mention Naruto with over a 100 Demon clones at once? Nope, how on earth can he beat them with all those clones out/ them not knowing which Naruto it is which leaves time for sneak attacks. I could go on and on.
Umm I didn't say his sword was magic and I also didn't say Naruto dodged bullets, I said there are no bullets in the serie sthat I remember that were even there to try and dodge, and those old Pirate guns are not the same speed as teh guns of today. You saying Sasuke does not have Rock lee speed proves you don't even know anything either. Sasuke is faster than rock lee when he opened up the gates vs Gara, this is like a 100 episodes later way after sasuke was taught by Kakashi to do teh Rock lees speed, because Kakashi copied it during the match and then trained sasuke, and you seem him going that fast when it was Sasuke Vs Gara, but then liek 70 eps passed and they trained more...Got way faster, You do know they are different levels of shiringan right? He had another dot added to his pupil which gave him another affect. Sasuke had like none when he fought Rock lee for that one time so Rock lee wouldn't know anything. So a guy faster than Rock lee, has range attacks, not weak, Has chidori, and his NEw Sharungan with new affects can indeed beat the slower characters Sanji/Zoro team.
Range attacks meaning Sharikens, all the other equipment Naruto and sasuke Carries and Sasukes Fire balls. Chidori and resengen will hit them because they are going to fast for them and can get close, also Sasukes new Sharingan could see his attacks going slower/ it could already semi predict what he will do by his body language.
So How is he going to hit 100 Narutos and actually hit the right one? You do forget The team also has the replacement jutsu right so if he hits sasuke for example, they think they won but it was just a log and bang Chidori.
Naruto also does attacks from udner ground with his clones like he did to Neji. Oh and you saying I am some naruturd is stupid. I always say these guys lose with characters that could beat them, just because I am defending Naruto doesn't mean I am some fanboy.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Umm I didn't say his sword was magic and I also didn't say Naruto dodged bullets, I said there are no bullets in the serie sthat I remember that were even there to try and dodge, and those old Pirate guns are not the same speed as teh guns of today.
Okay, first and foremost the guns in one piece are nothing like the old firearms of real life pirates. Never mind that they are rifled, have accuracy, and are more powerful. The speed of a bullet is relatively the same in every era let alone one piece, 1000 meters per second. And at that range it's very impressive.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
You saying Sasuke does not have Rock lee speed proves you don't even know anything either. Sasuke is faster than rock lee when he opened up the gates vs Gara, this is like a 100 episodes later way after sasuke was taught by Kakashi to do teh Rock lees speed, because Kakashi copied it during the match and then trained sasuke, and you seem him going that fast when it was Sasuke Vs Gara, but then liek 70 eps passed and they trained more...Got way faster, You do know they are different levels of shiringan right?
LOL, that's good for the "TEH gates" but, your gonna have to post proof for that. I don't remeber kakashi teching sasuke any gates technique, never mind that sharigan can't capture the speed or power of taijutsu. Yes, I'm aware of the levels of sharigan,But, like I said sharigan can only copy techniques because of precog. If the techniques is to fast to dodge, sasuke is hit.
Also, the gates are limited, if sasuke uses them he'll wear himself out alot.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
He had another dot added to his pupil which gave him another affect. Sasuke had like none when he fought Rock lee for that one time so Rock lee wouldn't know anything. So a guy faster than Rock lee, has range attacks, not weak, Has chidori, and his NEw Sharungan with new affects can indeed beat the slower characters Sanji/Zoro team.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Range attacks meaning Sharikens, all the other equipment Naruto and sasuke Carries and Sasukes Fire balls. Chidori and resengen will hit them because they are going to fast for them and can get close, also Sasukes new Sharingan could see his attacks going slower/ it could already semi predict what he will do by his body language.
He's too fast for them, then you obviously ignored the speed feats I posted. Also, you think throwing shurikens will bother guys who soloed hundreds of amred marines in a fight? or did this
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
So How is he going to hit 100 Narutos and actually hit the right one? You do forget The team also has the replacement jutsu right so if he hits sasuke for example, they think they won but it was just a log and bang Chidori.
Their jutsu's have such huge execution time, and those tactics would only by the time. Zoro and sanji are more durable, stronger, more experiecned, and can react against speedsters.
100 of shadow clones that divide your chakra in half for every shadow clone. Never mind that zoro, and sanji rip through hundreds of man like canon fodder.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Naruto also does attacks from udner ground with his clones like he did to Neji. Oh and you saying I am some naruturd is stupid. I always say these guys lose with characters that could beat them, just because I am defending Naruto doesn't mean I am some fanboy.
I didn't say your a narutard, I said your acting like one when you claim a character from a manga you don't read can or can't do something.
I didn't read your post all the way yet, I just wante dto say I didnt say he taught him GATES, I said he watched Rock lee do the gates and his speed even before the gates Kakshi had his sharingan up and he showed the same speeds while fight gara.
Batman Dodges bullets because he gets out of the range of the gun. That's all Sanji or Zoro did, once out of the direction the gun is pointed it is easy to dodge. It's the guy shooting and him out od direction.
Oh and your attempts to make fun of my typos is sad. Let me read the rest of your garbage and respond in a minute.
Chidori is cut through lightning. Piercing through zoro is not the same as him taking electricity. Try knowing what the attacks are before you speak.
Cannanon balls from a far is not a good speed feat.....and half the time they were with luffy taking on "all these people" they had a whole team of people not by themselves.
Well if you watched mroe than 1 episode, you will know it doesn't take long anymore and Naruto is mor ethan capable of handling all those shadow clones without losing so much Chakara as he did later on in the series. It doesn't take time as you think now. You fail to say how these guys are going to even know which shadow clone he is. How can he hit all of them from all directions even popping up from under ground? and Sasuke is also there with his new sharingan eye, shooting fire balls. Also there replacement jutsu attacks. Come man, I know One piece is your fav show in the world but seriously...
I do watch One piece, not like I don't know anything. I just miss episodes and pieces here and there. You don'tw atch Naruto to much or read the manga it seems, by your repsonses and the comparing chidori to hundred volts prooves everything that you don't know anything.
Hundred of man is not the same as a trained Ninja with Jutsus.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
I didn't read your post all the way yet, I just wante dto say I didnt say he taught him GATES, I said he watched Rock lee do the gates and his speed even before the gates Kakshi had his sharingan up and he showed the same speeds while fight gara.
So, your saying he moved at gates speed despite not using gates?!
You have any proof for this claim, nevermind I 'll go search myself.
Anyway,did you read my argument on their speed?
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Batman Dodges bullets because he gets out of the range of the gun.
-Batman is not a consistenly written character, he has many writers who if the feel like can make him as smart as reed richard.
-Sanji was not out of his range, the guy pulled out a gun and shot at his faced and he dodged.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
That's all Sanji or Zoro did, once out of the direction the gun is pointed it is easy to dodge. It's the guy shooting and him out od direction.Oh and your attempts to make fun of my typos is sad. Let me read the rest of your garbage and respond in a minute.
Lord, he dodged the bullet after it was shot not before. And your ignoring all my other speed feats.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Chidori is cut through lightning. Piercing through zoro is not the same as him taking electricity. Try knowing what the attacks are before you speak.
LOL, is that supposed to be a feat, cuting lighting? Is lighting solid, nevermind that it was never shown and can be interperted as narrative hyperbole. But, Let's say it's legit, it's a close range attack.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Cannanon balls from a far is not a good speed feat.....and half the time they were with luffy taking on "all these people" they had a whole team of people not by themselves.
So, shurikens are more threatening than canons, and armed marines?!
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarRock lee opening the gates when he fought Gara; was early in the series so it is not as fast as a Gai opening the gates. You are just countering on what you want to counter and ignored everything else I have said.
So, your saying he moved at gates speed despite not using gates?!
You have any proof for this claim, nevermind I 'll go search myself.
Anyway,did you read my argument on their speed?-Batman is not a consistenly written character, he has many writers who if the feel like can make him as smart as reed richard.
-Sanji was not out of his range, the guy pulled out a gun and shot at his faced and he dodged.
Lord, he dodged the bullet after it was shot not before. And your ignoring all my other speed feats.
LOL, is that supposed to be a feat, cuting lighting? Is lighting solid, nevermind that it was never shown and can be interperted as narrative hyperbole. But, Let's say it's legit, it's a [B]close range
attack.So, shurikens are more threatening than canons, and armed marines?! [/B]
Originally posted by RicodrayzWell if you watched mroe than 1 episode, you will know it doesn't take long anymore and Naruto is mor ethan capable of handling all those shadow clones without losing so much Chakara
That's a lie, just recently in the manga it was stated that his chakra divides by kakashi.
Originally posted by RicodrayzIt doesn't take time as you think now. You fail to say how these guys are going to even know which shadow clone he is. How can he hit all of them from all directions even popping up from under ground?
Each shadow clone has half the strength of the original, this is a fact. The more shadow clones the weaker the attack. I just showed you a scan of sanji and zoro taking hundreds of marines own there own and you telling me some presubcent youths with his 1/100th of his power will do the job?
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
and Sasuke is also there with his new sharingan eye, shooting fire balls. Also there replacement jutsu attacks. Come man, I know One piece is your fav show in the world but seriously...
Seriously, you just had the nerve to imply shurikens are worst than canons and your telling me come on? Firebreath will not help against their kind of durability.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Rock lee opening the gates when he fought Gara; was early in the series so it is not as fast as a Gai opening the gates. You are just countering on what you want to counter and ignored everything else I have said.
Like you just did right now, never mind you a>b>C logic. Rock lee gates > gai gates>Sasuke gate speed doesn't tell me how fast he is. Nevermind you haven't addressed naruto's speed.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarAnd then you mis read what I say into what you want me to say and not what I actually said....I will go debate with the wall, I might get better responses.
Like you just did right now, never mind you a>b>C logic. Rock lee gates > gai gates>Sasuke gate speed doesn't tell me how fast he is. Nevermind you haven't addressed naruto's speed.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
And then you mis read what I say into what you want me to say and not what I actually said....I will go debate with the wall, I might get better responses.
EDIT:Are you talking about this speed feat, where are gates mentiuoned
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarSeeings how I didn't say that.........Where teh hell did I say Sharikens thrown by hands are worse than cannons. Jeez, you are in your own little world and hearing all kind of things, then ignore my arguments and pick pieces that you wnat to counter. Then misinterrput what you do listen too ahhh. OK man, People from one Piece are GOD, is that what you wnat to hear? I will put them agaisnt Pre crisis Superman and Goku/Vegeta so it would be a decent match!
Right, versus bring batman, claiming that shurikens thrown by hand are worst than canons, ignoring my speed feats, downplaying my speed feats when I did not do the same to yours and harping about speed. Nevermind that I told you it's okay to use the sasuke argument about his speed and yet you continue to complain about.EDIT:Are you talking about this speed feat, where are gates mentiuoned
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Seeings how I didn't say that.........Where teh hell did I say Sharikens thrown by hands are worse than cannons. Jeez, you are in your own little world and hearing all kind of things, then ignore my arguments and pick pieces that you wnat to counter. Then misinterrput what you do listen too ahhh,
"Range attacks meaning Sharikens, all the other equipment Naruto and sasuke Carries and Sasukes Fire balls."
Despite me telling you they solo hundreds of marines with Guns and showing you a picture of zoro countering attacks from several canons.
You also said this:
"That's all Sanji or Zoro did, once out of the direction the gun is pointed it is easy to dodge. It's the guy shooting and him out od direction."
The guy shoot him right at the face, unless you believed he shoot him after he put his head out of the way? Nevermind your ovbiouslack of knowldge of one piece when you haven't even seen the series through.
And you ignored when I posted this:
Cp9, have a speed technique called soru, it works by stomping on the ground 10 times and moving faster than the human eye can see. Hell jyabura using soru could attack at four directions at once (So can luffy) Sanji kept up with him like nothing. Zoro ran past a crowd of hundreds of men and was only noticed when he stopped to attack.
I never got a response for those speed feats.
You also claimed this:
"You saying Sasuke does not have Rock lee speed proves you don't even know anything either. Sasuke is faster than rock lee when he opened up the gates vs Gara"
I just posted a scan disproving that:
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarEDIT:Are you talking about this speed feat, where are gates mentiuoned at all?
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarForgot to mention teh fire balls eh? Some how you think they could beat 100 Narutos throwing sharikens, trying to beat on him, coming up from under the ground, and from above, Naruto and sasuke having replacement Jutsus. Naruto and Sasuke are faster in movment speed. Also how they getting past Sasukes Sharingan eye(Not teh old one from episode 50 jeez, it does get more advance with the dots in his pupils appearing to show the next stage and the abilities enhance and change.
I guess you forget your own arguments, because you implyed that when you posted this:[B]"Range attacks meaning Sharikens, all the other equipment Naruto and sasuke Carries and Sasukes Fire balls."
Despite me telling you they solo hundreds of marines with Guns and showing you a picture of zoro countering attacks from several canons. [/B]
but but but but they beat a 100 idiots with like no fighting experience. Not teh same as a 100 narutos trained.
OMG listen, I said kakshi was watching Rocklees fight with his sharingan eye while he was in teh gates doing speed. Befor ethe tourniment he trained sasuke, taught him Chidori and helped him with his speed because Kakashi had it in his eye. I didn't say sasuke can open gates. Also they are not the same speed as when tehy fought Gara vs when they fight each other again. I know you don't know anything when you said they could even beat demon(I know he is not in the match) He can not beat the demon that naruto was using vs sasuke, it was like form 2. The chakara shoots out like hands to grab you, the speed and agility is in sane, going on sides of walls and whatever, the demon auto heals damage to it'sself, and teh charakra is hard to penetrate.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Forgot to mention teh fire balls eh? Some how you think they could beat 100 Narutos throwing sharikens, trying to beat on him, coming up from under the ground
They each have half naruto's strength, I never seen a shadow clone past more than one hit!
And how are 100 marines armed with guns less of a threat than 100 boys throwing shurikens?
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
, and from above, Naruto and sasuke having replacement Jutsus. Naruto and Sasuke are faster in movment speed.
When has naruto demonstrated any knowledge of replacement jutsu's or jutsu's in general other then kage bunshin, rasengan and summon?
Faster based on what, what makes them faster. I just crushed your gates argument.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Also how they getting past Sasukes Sharingan eye(Not teh old one from episode 50 jeez, it does get more advance with the dots in his pupils appearing to show the next stage and the abilities enhance and change.
sigh, your ignoring what rock lee said of course. Okay, tell me something, if sharigan is so godly, why do sharigan weilder I.E kakashi and sasuke. Get hit so often?
Originally posted by Ricodrayzbut but but but they beat a 100 idiots with like no fighting experience. Not teh same as a 100 narutos trained.
No, fighting experience, right because we all know naruto is a great fighter with lots of technique. They have guns and again, naruto's strength is divided when he uses that jutsu. I've said that three times already.
Originally posted by RicodrayzOMG listen, I said kakshi was watching Rocklees fight with his sharingan eye while he was in teh gates doing speed. Befor ethe tourniment he trained sasuke, taught him Chidori and helped him with his speed because Kakashi had it in his eye. I didn't say sasuke can open gates. Also they are not the same speed as when tehy fought Gara vs when they fight each other again.
No, but, you claimed that sasuke was as fast as rock lee using the gates during his match with gaara.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
I know you don't know anything when you said they could even beat demon(I know he is not in the match) He can not beat the demon that naruto was using vs sasuke, it was like form 2. The chakara shoots out like hands to grab you, the speed and agility is in sane, going on sides of walls and whatever, the demon auto heals damage to it'sself, and teh charakra is hard to penetrate.
This proves your not paying attention, like I said before. Zoro has a technique that can cut through anything he wants and not cut what he does not want even if he slashes.
The speed and agility are insane, right. Also, auto heal won't save you from decapitation. Sasuk and naruto cannot generate enough chakara to stop sanji and zoro.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarYeah, their attacks happen and goes 78623476574 faster than light right? No way Naruto or Sasuke could use replacements, or no way Sasuke can see anything with his new Sharingan eye. 100 narutos will all die and Sanji will dodge all the sharikens, by all 100 narutos; while they come out the ground and above, plus fire balls from sasuke.
No, but, you claimed that sasuke was as fast as rock lee using the gates during his match with gaara.This proves your not paying attention, like I said before. Zoro has a technique that can cut through [B]anything
he wants and not cut what he does not want even if he slashes.The speed and agility are insane, right. Also, auto heal won't save you from decapitation. Sasuk and naruto cannot generate enough chakara to stop sanji and zoro. [/B]
You are right, The One piece team wins before the match even starts!!! To much. All their move's hit first and no one can do anything. I wonder why they have so much trouble in the anime if they are God.
Anyway, moving to the next match
Luffy and Crocodile Vs Yusuke and hiei