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Originally posted by Kento
First...Cell shouldn't have any remains or he'd revive right??

And most of the time Hulk faces people they use just brute strength and not all their speed I know. But that's the way Hulk would win. Pure strength against Hulk is Hulk's forte. Gladiator and Thor if using full abilities could beat Hulk sure but pure Strength is in Hulk's favor imo.

And, why would Son Goku use pure brute strength when he could just blast him. CIS isn't applicable in this match, both fighters are at their best.

Originally posted by Kento

Also Gokou was serious against Vegeta and he went H2H. He was serious to a point against Cell and went H2H. He was serious against Freeza and Kid Buu and went H2H.

-His fight against vegeta had certain circumstances. First of all Son Goku was no match for vegeta without the Kai-o-Ken. So even if he used a Kamehameha it would be useless without Kai-o-Ken. Furthermore he couldn' tjust use a Kai-O-Ken like that since the strain would kill him, combined with a Kamehameha he would destroy himself. Remember what happned after he perfromed Kai-O-ken Kamehameha? He was completelty exahausted.

- No, he wasn't serious or desperate when he was fighting Kid buu otherwise he would have used the potora earings that Kabouto-Kai gave him and become Vegetto once more. He only became serious towards the end after the potora earings were destroyed.

Originally posted by Kento

And what blast ever destroys on a molecular level?? Not the Kamehameha that's for sure and the only other attack Gokou has is Spirit Bomb which may since it destroyed Kid Buu but Gokou would never have the time to use it if you consider Hulk evil.

The Kamaehameha completely destroyed Cell otherwise he would have came back just like he did before when he Self-Detonated himself and took out Kai-O-kai.

Originally posted by Kento

Gokou flying through Hulk wouldn't be that great. He's fought Gladiator holding his guts in after Gladiator had used his Heat Vision to blast through him. As for a warp Kamehameha that would have to be Hulk standing there while he charges it up. And sure Hulk may be knocked down but he'll get back up. I still don't see Gokou being able to blast him into space at all.

-Gladiator losing to hulk is pure PIS, the guy is faster than light, can push planets and go through stars yet loses to hulk?!

-And, it doesn't matter if hulk attacks goku since goku is faster and can charge whilst moving.

-Also, what's going to happen when hulks hit by a Kamehameha?

His body will either dissolve like cells as the ki beam shoots off into space or Hulk will no dissolve while he's cast into space

Because Gokou uses H2H more then blast because blast use up energy. Gokou is a fighter he does more H2H than blasting.

As for his fight against Vegeta. He still went H2H with the Kaioken against Vegeta until Vegeta decided to blast. As for Kid Buu..Yes I'm the only one who can defeat him yet I'm not going to go serious. Gokou was serious he was just cocky and wanted to fight himself against Buu not fuse. He used Kamehameha against Buu but he mostly went H2H. He wasn't serious against Fat Buu however.

The Kamehameha disintegrated Cell its pure heat. Gokou's burnt his hands blocking Freeza's, it burns off Gokou's shirt when he is hit. From all that I've seen it would be that it killed him by burning him to nothing.

Also doesn't Gladiator have a weakness that is made by confidence? Hulk fighting him with a hole in his stomache that Gladiator himself made would be a big confidence breaker imo.

Also Gokou can dodge all he wants while charging his blast it still going to take its toll on Gokou more then the blast is going to on Hulk. Hulk's durability and healing factor combined is much more then anything Gokou has faced and he can't keep doing blast after blast or it'll drain him.

As for whats going to happen when Hulks hit by a Kamehameha...What Broli did comes to mind imo. Walking through it. Or if it does disinegrate some of him he'll heal and get angrier and keep coming for Gokou.

Originally posted by Kento
Because Gokou uses H2H more then blast because blast use up energy. Gokou is a fighter he does more H2H than blasting.

Doesn't matter Goku's not going to challenge the hulk in h2h if he knows he can launch him into a Vacuum. The only time Goku engaes his foes in h2h combat is because of CIS of the behavioral effects of Supa Saiya-jin: Like when he let freeza power up to his maximum.

All those instances are not valid in this match since there is no CIS allowed.

Originally posted by Kento

As for his fight against Vegeta. He still went H2H with the Kaioken against Vegeta until Vegeta decided to blast.

Did you read what I said because I answered that point already. I really hate repeating myself again. Goku was hesistant to use a kamehameha because the strain and Ki drainage was too much during the Kai-O-Ken he did not want to exert himself.

Originally posted by Kento

As for Kid Buu..Yes I'm the only one who can defeat him yet I'm not going to go serious. Gokou was serious he was just cocky and wanted to fight himself against Buu not fuse. He used Kamehameha against Buu but he mostly went H2H. He wasn't serious against Fat Buu however.

No, he wasn't serious, remember his fight with Super Buu and Remember how desperate he was to fuse with Son Gohan. If Son Goku was serious/desperate he would have fused, He simply belived he could take Kid Buu because he wasn't as strong as Super Buu.

Originally posted by Kento

The Kamehameha disintegrated Cell its pure heat. Gokou's burnt his hands blocking Freeza's, it burns off Gokou's shirt when he is hit. From all that I've seen it would be that it killed him by burning him to nothing.

What does that have to do with anyting, Kamehameha on hulk will launch him out of orbit peroid.

Originally posted by Kento

Also Gokou can dodge all he wants while charging his blast it still going to take its toll on Gokou more then the blast is going to on Hulk. Hulk's durability and healing factor combined is much more then anything Gokou has faced and he can't keep doing blast after blast or it'll drain him..

Goku is faster than the hulk, much faster he could dodge his attacks whilst charging or perform Taiyo-Ken to Blind the Hulk than blast him, or Warp Kamehameha.

Originally posted by Kento

As for whats going to happen when Hulks hit by a Kamehameha...What Broli did comes to mind imo. Walking through it. Or if it does disinegrate some of him he'll heal and get angrier and keep coming for Gokou.

Broli isn't canon so all examples of him are irrelevant.

Except for CIS has nothing to do with Gokou doing what he does all the time. Engage in h2h. Gokou letting Freeza power up is CIS but fighting h2h isn't. Gokou not fusing with Vegeta against Kid Buu was CIS sure but him going in h2h wasn't. Gokou goes h2h its his style not blast first.

When has the Kamehameha ever launched anybody into orbit? Besides Broli which was a triple and not canon. The only person it did apparently was Cell who was already disintegrated. Never has a Kamehameha launched a person from ground to orbit that still had their body intact.

Solar Flare would make Hulk madder and stronger. Also doesn't his durabilty get stronger the madder? Just a question don't really know. Anything Gokou does will just make him madder and stronger while Gokou will get tired and eventually will be hit by Hulk and with one hit Gokou's dead again.

Anyways I gotta get to work.

Originally posted by Kento
Except for CIS has nothing to do with Gokou doing what he does all the time. Engage in h2h. Gokou letting Freeza power up is CIS but fighting h2h isn't. Gokou not fusing with Vegeta against Kid Buu was CIS sure but him going in h2h wasn't. Gokou goes h2h its his style not blast first.

Yes, it does, Goku always screws arond in is fights. The only time he was serios was against Super Buu and he didn't even want to fight him. He just did to save vegeta's ass.

If you want to use Cis and PIS then hulks low end showings will come into play. Like when he was knocked put by a cement truck.

-Goku only let Frieza power up becuase of the behavioral effects of Supa Saiya-jin.

-Goku only fought Kid Buu because he wasn't serious.

Seriously, if CIS is your only argument I see no point in continuing. I don't get why you can't except that Goku screw arond all the time during fighs. Like when Frieza killed Vegeta instead of powering up to his max. He used only 10% of his power to fight frieza.

Originally posted by Kento

When has the Kamehameha ever launched anybody into orbit? Besides Broli which was a triple and not canon. The only person it did apparently was Cell who was already disintegrated. Never has a Kamehameha launched a person from ground to orbit that still had their body intact.

But, it still could. Just like goku could blow up the earth if he wanted to or Punch Bulma's lights out if he wanted too.

Originally posted by Kento

Solar Flare would make Hulk madder and stronger. Also doesn't his durabilty get stronger the madder? Just a question don't really know. Anything Gokou does will just make him madder and stronger while Gokou will get tired and eventually will be hit by Hulk and with one hit Gokou's dead again.

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Taiyo-ken would blind hulk leaving him open for a Super Kamehameha, Goku wins.

in this goku gives life watch!

And this is where goku take a hit from a planet breaking blast it even said and he can give life so what now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUM0rwqNfL8

Originally posted by Bigga Nigga420
And this is where goku take a hit from a planet breaking blast it even said and he can give life so what now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUM0rwqNfL8

That's from a movie, which isn't cannon.

so its still an anime tho it dose not say anything about having to be cannon so ha

Originally posted by Bigga Nigga420
And this is where goku take a hit from a planet breaking blast it even said and he can give life so what now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUM0rwqNfL8

Movies aren't cannon I don't think, unless it's allowed for this match.

Originally posted by Bigga Nigga420
so its still an anime tho it dose not say anything about having to be cannon so ha

When discussing a character it’s generally assumed that you’re using the cannon version. It’s like someone saying Superman VS *Some character* and people then using Pre-Crisis feats for Post-Crisis Superman.

The person who started the battle has to state whether this is Goku from the anime/movies or cannon Goku, because Hulk too has done some crazy shit in non-cannon appearances.

Unless the person states that non cannon material applies, we go strictly with what's cannon.

i started the battle..and i say its non cannon goku then

Originally posted by Bigga Nigga420
i started the battle..and i say its non cannon goku then

Then I guess movie materal counts then.

So are non-cannon Hulk feats allowed as well? And which Hulk version are we using here?

Then you mean it's only Goku from that movie, since that movie is not canon to anything else other than itself. You can't mix and match different continuities to get the results you want.

Oh, and BTW, DBZ characters never demonstrated the ability to destroy things on a molecular level. The best they did is the ability to destroy things on a cellular level (Cell could regenerate from one cell, so to kill him they had to destroy ever last one of his cells. Buu could regenerate from mist, but particles of mist are not single molecules).

A Kamehameha wave won't be enough to finish Hulk though, he's taken planet destroying blasts and regenerated from it in a sec. Goku will have to finish the fight fast, but I don't think he'll win just by using Ki blasts, it takes up too much energy, and Hulk is pretty hard to put down, the match will last quite some time. So Goku will have to fight h2h in inoder to save energy. He's fast enough to take Hulk, he'll just have to be careful of mistakes, because Hulk can suprise people with his speed when he's angry. If Hulk is at normal levels, then Goku stands a better chance, but if it's Hulk already angry, it's most likely going to be Hulk winning the battle.

Canon or not, Goku wins.
Next match: Lina Inverse Vs Majin Dark Schneider.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Canon or not, Goku wins.

I do not actually know who would win, I was just clarifying some things.

Next match: Lina Inverse Vs Majin Dark Schneider.

Darsh wins easily, the only way Lina could win is if she uses the Giga Slave, but that would take too long against someone who can attack at far beyond lightspeed.

Originally posted by dvampire
A Kamehameha wave won't be enough to finish Hulk though, he's taken planet destroying blasts and regenerated from it in a sec.

I said it would knock him out of orbit not vaporize him. Why is everyone ignoring that point, Warp kamehameha hulk is out of orbit, Goku wins next fight.

Okay, how about Saint Seiya's vs Ashgardians (Marvel)

Isn’t the best feat SS something like Hades moving all the planets in the solar system with a thought?

I think RKT and Odin might be too much for SS, if that Hades feat is the best in SS.