Originally posted by Kento
Kakashi made the Chidori before he even got the Sharigan. But it being a rush attack the Sharigan helps him be able to react better.When has this ever happened? Every time anybody does the Sharigan stuff, besides Amaterasu and Kakashi's attack they look into the person's eyes except when Naruto first found that guy who was made to look like Itachi and he looked into the ring but he wasn't even Itachi to begin with and had no Sharigan. Gai proved that the Sharigan stuff only works when you look at the opponent in the eye thats why he learned to read body movement from how the persons feet move.
Kakashi vs Zabuza - Looking in eyes
Itachi vs Kakashi - Looking in eyes which
Asuma and Kurenai vs Itachi - Looking into eyes
Sasuke vs Orochimaru - Looking into eyes which
Sasuke vs Itachi - Looking into eyesThat's all I can think of right now that involved the Sharigan and its effects so I may be wrong but that's all I remember.
didn't itachi cast a genjustu on naruto by just pointing at him?
"Not as ridiculous as your argument."
taking this personally i see, that explains the lack of logic in your arguments.
"Okay..whats your point? Bullets move so fast that you can niether see nor hear the ones that hit you."
rock lee with his weights on, pretime skip moved almost as fast as sound. {proven by sound ninja's comments in the manga} with his wieghts off, he moves so fast that he is nearly teleporting, much faster than sound. sound= 330 m/s bullet fired from a high velocity m16 rifle moves at 880 m/s {handgun bullets have MUCH lower ve;locities due to shorter barrel} even if PRE time skip sasuke were to go up against a RIFLE bullet, he would atleast be compareabl in speed and he certainly has the reflexes to dodge one incoming at close range even before time skip, now he is many many many many MANY times more powerful. he KILLED UROCHIMARU FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE! and shaaringan has precogntion too as well as can slow time for the users perception even MOST basically, and he doesnt even NEED that. to top it all off, he doesnt have to dodge an incoming bullet. even IF he allowes it, he can MORE than anticipate what deadpool{who has only max human stats} is doing and deadpool's trigger finger most CERTAINLY does not move faster than sound. oh yea before i forget , haku with his ice mirrors moved from one mirror to another at LIGHTSPEED{stated fact, since he was reflecting literally} and only the second level of shaaringan could see that movement at low level. and the second level sharingan was only in one eye.
"Guns > Anything Sasuke can come up with."
ur own unbased, illogical assumption. a smooth bore cannon cant do the damage sasuke can do with a single normal chidori. hes taken on armies of LEVEL 2 cursed marked seals and beaten them without breakin a sweat.
"that wasn't his strongest defense. Gaara doesn't use his strongest defense until he fights Kimmimaro."
that WAS his strongest defence, go read the manga again, only AGAINST kimimaru, it had a different SHAPE{stated by rock lee}
"Only Gaara post time has sand that powerful. When Sasuke fought him Gaara's sand was much weaker."
REALLY?! the only attack able to break his NORMAL SAND in the chuunmin exam was rock lee's secondary hidden lotus with 5 chi gates open and that single kick destroyed the entire formidably thick hard rocked floor of the entire ARENA! and that was in the beginning of the pre time skip
"Naruto shinobi are NOTHING, absolutly NOTHING compared to a simple gun. "
again thas ur bias talking. i dunno if uve even seen all of naruto manga/anime, {it certainly doesnt look likt it for a man who has gaara in his sig} u need to watch it again, infact watch shippuden or just download some manga chapters.
Originally posted by Kento
Kakashi made the Chidori before he even got the Sharigan. But it being a rush attack the Sharigan helps him be able to react better.When has this ever happened? Every time anybody does the Sharigan stuff, besides Amaterasu and Kakashi's attack they look into the person's eyes except when Naruto first found that guy who was made to look like Itachi and he looked into the ring but he wasn't even Itachi to begin with and had no Sharigan. Gai proved that the Sharigan stuff only works when you look at the opponent in the eye thats why he learned to read body movement from how the persons feet move.
Kakashi vs Zabuza - Looking in eyes
Itachi vs Kakashi - Looking in eyes which
Asuma and Kurenai vs Itachi - Looking into eyes
Sasuke vs Orochimaru - Looking into eyes which
Sasuke vs Itachi - Looking into eyesThat's all I can think of right now that involved the Sharigan and its effects so I may be wrong but that's all I remember.
i dunno if he created the chidori before or after he got the eye{where do u get that from?} but before chidori was made into an electric elemental attack{yea, initially it was just like raasengan, pure chakra which looked like electricity because of its intensity} it was just so much chakra that it could be seen by the eye{remember kakashi CUT a lightening bolt with it in its weak form, and only chakra and not more lightening cud do that} and kakashi mentioned it when sasuke first used it "the power of the uchihas, using body activation to producing huge amounts of chakra" {oh thats reminds me, a lightening strike is 7 times hotter and more energetic than the surface of the sun and if unconducted or earthed it has the power of many hundreds of GIGAWATTS, while a smooth bore 50 mm anti warship gun has only the energy of 20 megajoules, just for people who think mere HANDGUNS are stronger than chidori or sasuke} and also only kakashi and sasuke have used it so far, and when naruto tried, he CUDNT.
do remember that guy said it was all about where ur eyes were FOCUSED , ur eyes NOT THE CASTERS. also when sasuke went up against itachi and kisame, and itachi grabbed his throat and put him against a wall, on jiraya's words, sasuke, closed his eyes, completely but itachi's tsukiyomi still struck him.
taking this personally i see, that explains the lack of logic in your arguments.
I wouldn't call a retort taking things "personal". Getting a little desperate? You must be to make baseless assumptions like that.
rock lee with his weights on, pretime skip moved almost as fast as sound. {proven by sound ninja's comments in the manga} with his wieghts off, he moves so fast that he is nearly teleporting, much faster than sound.
So why wa it stated that when Lee and Gui opened there gates, THEN they were moving faster then sound?
even if PRE time skip sasuke were to go up against a RIFLE bullet, he would atleast be compareabl in speed and he certainly has the reflexes to dodge one incoming at close range
Um... nope. Lee with waits off wasn't moving faster then sound, so Sasuke running as fast as Lee with wieghts off isn't faster then sound.
he KILLED UROCHIMARU FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!
Point?
and shaaringan has precogntion too as well as can slow time for the users perception even MOST basically, and he doesnt even NEED that.
It's already been proven that the Sharingan is useless against your enemies if they're too fast for you. Sasuke isn't faster then a fully automatic rifle.
to top it all off, he doesnt have to dodge an incoming bullet. even IF he allowes it, he can MORE than anticipate what deadpool{who has only max human stats} is doing
Deadpool is one of thee most unpredictable fighters in the entire Marvel universe. NO one in the Marvel Unvierse who has ever fought him as predicted what he's going to do, I don't see Sasuke doing that either.
and deadpool's trigger finger most CERTAINLY does not move faster than sound.
Irrevelent.
oh yea before i forget , haku with his ice mirrors moved from one mirror to another at LIGHTSPEED{stated fact, since he was reflecting literally}
Proof? Show me were it says that in the manga or Anime.
ur own unbased, illogical assumption. a smooth bore cannon cant do the damage sasuke can do with a single normal chidori.
Sasuke's regular Chidori has never killed anyone.... 😬 It failed against Naruto, it failed against Gaara, twice...
hes taken on armies of LEVEL 2 cursed marked seals and beaten them without breakin a sweat.
If Sasuke was using a gun he would have done it even faster, I'm sure. 😐
that WAS his strongest defence, go read the manga again, only AGAINST kimimaru, it had a different SHAPE{stated by rock lee}
Rock Lee is a fallible third-party source. He wouldn't actually know if the shield was stronger or not. Prove to me that the sand was actually as strong, and don't give some fallible third-party source.
REALLY?!
Ya Rly.
the only attack able to break his NORMAL SAND in the chuunmin exam was rock lee's secondary hidden lotus with 5 chi gates open and that single kick destroyed the entire formidably thick hard rocked floor of the entire ARENA! and that was in the beginning of the pre time skip
Whats your point?
again thas ur bias talking.
Prove that I'm bias 😬 Just because I'm arguing against you doesn't make me biased. I can call you biased, or a Naruto fanboy by your logic.
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dunno if uve even seen all of naruto manga/anime, {it certainly doesnt look likt it for a man who has gaara in his sig}
That doesn't even make sense.
u need to watch it again, infact watch shippuden or just download some manga chapters.
The Anime sucks. I've already read all the current Manga for Shippuden.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i dunno if he created the chidori before or after he got the eye{where do u get that from?} but before chidori was made into an electric elemental attack{yea, initially it was just like raasengan, pure chakra which looked like electricity because of its intensity}
Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Sasuke's regular Chidori has never killed anyone.... 😬 It failed against Naruto, it failed against Gaara, twice...
Against Naruto it pierced his lungs and would have killed him but he's got a healing factor so of course it didn't kill him.
If I remember Kakashi tells them not to look into Itachi's eyes and Naruto doesn't and he sees the ring and looks at it then gets caught in the genjutsu.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
do remember that guy said it was all about where ur eyes were FOCUSED , ur eyes NOT THE CASTERS. also when sasuke went up against itachi and kisame, and itachi grabbed his throat and put him against a wall, on jiraya's words, sasuke, closed his eyes, completely but itachi's tsukiyomi still struck him. [/B]
As for this that I was in a hurry and did't answer..If Jiraiya tells him to close his eyes and then he does it after being told Itachi would have had time to make eye contact. All it takes his eye contact and the person can be caught in a genjutsu. Eye contact is hard to avoid with eyes open unless you're specificly looking someplace else like Gai does. If it took less than eye contact Gai wouldn't have been a problem and Itachi could have got him just as easily as he got Kakashi, Asuma, and Kurenai.
Originally posted by Antediluvian89
[B]Ryu Hoshi VS Rock LeeNo outside interference or preparation time, who wins? [/B]
I'd like to take Ryu over Lee because he's a lot more skilled in fighting but what I've seen in the anime moves, and Street Fighter 2 v series he's not done anything to keep up with Lee's speed. The fastest thing I've seen him do is dodge bullets, which isn't slow, in Street Fighter Alpha movie. Though unless he's done something impressive in the newest movie or the games I can't say..From what I seen Lee because of speed.
Okay people say Sasuke can't beat Deadpool because DP has guns, his unpredictability, and his healing factor that is second to none but what about
Hidan vs Deadpool.
Wow, thats REALLY good match up.
Hidan is immortal and DP damn near unkillable.
However I guess Hidan will win if he manages to get DP in his curse Jutsu, then just like shove a sword through his skull. I think thats the only thing that can get DP or Wolverine.
However if not then its a stalemate. Bullets won't do a thing against someone invincible and Hidan doesn't have the capable weapons to kill DP with. Swords and Kunai wouldn't work.
Well if Deadpool can heal from a pile of goop, and regrow his memories and brainafter Alex Hayden blows his brains out..I don't think Deadpool'll will be killed by anything Hidan can do. I think Deadpool would have the only chance of winning. Slicing off Hidan's head and then throwing it as far as he can away from the body cause Hidan couldn't do anything then. But could Deadpool do that before being caught in Hidan's jutsu?
hm.. good point.
Well, if thats the case then Hidan simply has no way of beating DP.
I forsee DP just peppering Hidan with machine gun fire until he leaves his little circle from the pain. Then DP just decapitates him.
Besides, I'm pretty sure now that DP is actually immortal now. Didn't Death refuse to take him? Meaning that if he dies he can just come back to life.
So DP actually can't be killed by anyone below Omniscent level, I.E. he can only be killed by getting "unmade" or "wiped from existence", like something L-Sama could do.
"Deadpool has actually met and established a relationship with the personification of Death in the Marvel universe and as a result has been cursed by T-Ray, at the behest of Thanos, to be unable to die. " - Quoted from Wiki.
okay, so yeah. DP > Pretty much anyone in the Narutoverse, and quite bit of other people.
Deadpool can't die but he can still loose and there are plenty of people he can't beat just because he can't die.
Also he can still bleed and thats all Hidan needs. Blood and then he can just keep hurting Deadpool. Deadpool can feel pain still. As long as Hidan does his jutsu anything Wade does to Hidan he'd feel. So it'll all depend on if Hidan can get the jutsu off before Wade decapitates him making him unable to move. But neither can die.