Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually that isnt proof at all, the kyuubi shud be sealed within yondaime. so that makes no sense. the proof for chidori is, both that guy said it, and then verified it when chouji commented: "that sounds so fake" furthermore, its name was lightening edge, and guy was telling why that was. besides, theres no PROOF that yondaime created or cud use the raasengan, shud u then not believe tsunade and jiraya's words?as far as the nightcrawler thing goes, they were just talkin and discussing his reaction and nightcrawler teleported to see if he cud really keep up and logan had already turned and his claws were inches away from kurt's throat{still and inches away, kept their intentionally} the second he appeared after teleporting.
also the shaaringan of itachi has been shown{normal shaaringan not mangekyo} to put people under genjutsu even with a finger point{verified by itachi} even when itachi is controlling ANOTHER BODY. naruto wasnt looking and he got caught in the genjutsu, guy was referring to KAKASHI'S shaaringan , it wasnt ineffective against him, itachi just didnt use it since he had just used tsukiyoimi on kakashi. itachi isnt just feared because his shaaringan is powerful, he was as far as i know{since we dont know the child history of yondaime or madar} the greatest shinobi prodigy in konoha, he had learnt how to use the third level shaaringan at eight and also was a member of ANBU, which are only the best JOUNIN at age 11 or 12. in the flashbacks, we see that when he slaughtered the uchiha clan, he wasnt using the mangekyo shaaringan or even the shaaringan if memeory serves. he was just standing there , still and as people came to attack and projectiles like kunai and shuriken aproached, they were simply blasted away by chakra, furthermore, neither sarutobi nor kurenai could keep up with his speed of taijutsu. he also deflected a chidori by sasuke with a single hand and was able to cut off urochimaru's hand with his form manipulation. no way can guy beat him even if he isnt using the shaaringan.
yea the three tails is the one diedara fought{and tobi ran from, lol} it was moving at incredible speed inspight of its size and sluggish tortoise like appearance due to its chakra. and either way a SWING OF THE TAILS destroying mountains and creating tsunamis can only happen with chakra.
against his fight with sasuke, {defection pre time skip} in his chakra and one tailes form, naruto created shockwaves that could be easily notcied on the lake and tsunamis in the lake as high as over 2 stories. when naruto in kyuubi chakra{not TAIL} grabbed sasuke in the air and spun him around and launched him at the mountain side, the entire mountain side collapsed, and when sasuke used katon ryukakyu no jutsu, the entire top of the mountain melted away as magma, furthermore, when the chidori and raasengan met in cursed mark 2 sasuke and 1 taled naruto, the resulting energy ball creates a localised cursed storm which the incoming kakashi noted , the energy ball also destroyed a lot of the waterfall. also when naruto was practicing to use the wind element affinity, he split an entire WATERFALL. not to mention, three tailes was basically destroying any structure, rock, buildings, etc, around it. and yeah, the kyuubi, in the flashback DID destroy a mountain using its claws.
and as far as godzilla, im only referring to the FIRST movie, which was the original.
Sarutobi was sealing Orochimaru into himself. 4th sealed it into somebody else beside his own body it never says it has to be put into themselves. Kyuubi being there proves it was done. Also everybody says it was the 4th who created the Rasengan but never perfected it because he died. There is more proof that those things happened then Kakashi cutting lightning.
Logan knowing where Nightcrawler being when he gets done teleporting really is PIS. No way he should know that.
Also Itachi cannot do use his Sharigan with a point of his fingers. It was the ring that the body double had on that caught Naruto in the jutsu. Yes he was powerful but he's not really done much that Kakashi hasn't done. Becoming Anbu young and all. Itachi has not really done anything however without his Sharigan. He's not shown any fighting skills really. He has to have them but he's not shown any. Also Gai gets Kureinai and Asuma out of the Genjutsu and tells them not to look into his eye. Also Naruto was the only one affected by the genjutsu when they fought the body double. Kakashi, Sakura, and the old woman weren't. They didn't look into his eyes or the ring. Also Kakashi deflected both Rasengan and Chidori with a hand. You just need to be faster and able to get you're hand in behind the chakra.
Also I don't remember saying it was moving like that because of it's chakra. Just because it looks like something doesn't mean it would be slow.
Also Naruto had to use a whole lot of clones to split the waterfall just like he needs a few clones to do the newest Rasengan, and the only reason he can do that is because Kyuubi gives him nearly endless stamina.
Also they weren't doing much damage at all to the surrounding scenery during the Kyuubi-tailed vs Cursed Seal 2 fight. The only time they did anything was when they collided with their super attacks. That explosion resulted in doing a lot of damage but the waterfall wasn't destroyed either. Though it does seem like it is for some reason but Kakashi is standing next to it. That part I don't understand.
As for the first movie. It still took a extreme weapon to take out Godzilla.