Presidents, like many a historical figure, have their effectives and greateness, indeed their place in history based on events that transpire around them. The events a president must deal with while occupying the White House is essentially what decides their decisive place in the annals of the American Presidency.
Lincoln and FDR will for ever be mentioned when speaking of the "greatest presidents" because the US was facing monumental threats to her very existence. Lincoln preserved the Union when it had essentially been split, FDR led America though history's bloodiest war, because of this their places are forever enshrined in the pantheon of great presidents.
It is interesting to keep in mind that many who consider two of the worst US presidents were Lincoln and FDR's predecessors: Buchanan and Hoover. Had the roles been reversed who AMerican history be different?
I believe that a president has a myriad of responsibilities that go beyond preserving the Union. The economy, foreign policy, international stability, and the men and women that surround him in his administration, just to name a few. Because of this a president's 'Greatest' should be based on their influence they have on the people and indeed the course of history.
A footnote* There was an article a few months ago in Rolling Stone written by a prominent historian from Princeton U. who essentially said that GWB is quickly making a case for himself that will land him the spot as THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER! It was great article and read if you can find it. Certainly he makes great points, i must say i agree with him 🙂 But that's another topic.....
So do you know anything about that on what I said on my following post? I hope your aware of that,that its true? People like to think FDR was a good president.I bet they would change their mind though if they knew he did what Bush did with 9-11,knew it was going to happen and wanted it to happen.Thats been all over the history channel that FDR had foreknowledge the japenese were going to attack us and allowed it to happen.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
So do you know anything about that on what I said on my following post? I hope your aware of that,that its true? People like to think FDR was a good president.I bet they would change their mind though if they knew he did what Bush did with 9-11,knew it was going to happen and wanted it to happen.Thats been all over the history channel that FDR had foreknowledge the japenese were going to attack us and allowed it to happen.
I had heard that Bush had knowledge about a MAJOR potential attack in the days leading up to 9/11. Richard Clarke, "Terrorist Czar" under Clinton and for a short time under Bush, has steadfastly said that he told the Bush Admin., "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE INSIDE U.S." as late as Sep. 8!!!!! Of Course neither Bush nor anyone in his Admin. or his supporters will ever concede that they had knowledge beforehand.
As far as FDR is concerned, yes i have heard and read some things where people believe that he new of an imminent attack by the Japanese against U.S. Naval targets in the Pacific and chose to do nothing. Wheather or not this is actually true continues to be debated.
Mr. Parker, the thing you need to keep in mind is that whenever a major historical event occurs that forever changes our lives, i.e 9/11, the JFK assasination, or Pearl Harbor there will always be individuals who won't accept the "official story". It is human nature for people to reject the notion that this could have happened or that that it was meant to happen. Because they can't accept it, they begin to believe that there are other forces at work and these trajedies HAVE to be the work others, masterminds working behind the scenes. This of course is where conspiracy theories are born.
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well I cant comment too much about pearl harbour whether FDR knew or not but seeing as how the government lies on just about everything I got to believe he did because I HAVE done an immense amount of research over the years on the Kennedy assassination and 9-11 to know that the official versions are fairy tales.I got real interested in the Kennedy assassination thanks to stones film JFK and I have read a countless number of books on the subject with different theory's set forth and I understand why stone used the book CROSSFIRE by Jim Marrs for the main thesis of his movie because in all my research,that one book has the most damning information that shreds apart the warren commission and proves its a fairy tale and proves as well it was an inside job by people in high positions of power within the government.I have interviewed myself witnesses who were there that day who to this day tell counts of being threatened and harassed and intimidated by FBI agents ect for not having the same official story that the fairy tale warren commission was reporting,the warren commission did not want to hear any witness who had a version different than theirs if it did not support their official story.it was a key stone cops investigation.Theres just to much overwhelming proof that it was an inside job. also,all you got to do find out that George Bush is indeed a very evil man and would want something like 9-11 to happen is do some research on the bush family,they are a criminal empire of a family that goes all the way back to Bush Sr's father.The Bush family is indeed a very corrupted and evil family.The reason why there is a controversy going on with the Kennedy assassination and with 9-11 is because the facts of the case,dont fit the explanations given by the government.what the official versions are saying totally contradicts what witnesses who were there in dallas and new york are saying. so knowing how that and the history of the way the government lies to the people all the time to get us into these FAKE wars so all these American corporations and businesses could profit ,I got to believe that FDR knew about it.Like I said,we have a pretty corrupt government and politicians get away with crimes all the time we never could get away with so I have to believe that its true that FDR had prior knowledge as well just like Bush did.Like I said,just do some research on the Bush family,you'll be surprised what you'll learn about their criminal backgrounds they have.
Originally posted by History Buff
Well getting back on topic i think its safe to say that anyone with half a brain will agree that GWB and his admin. will go down as one of the WORST in American history.
this is true...
however, people with a whole brain might give it some more consideration and maybe a few more decades to see if the current president and his administration really is (was?) the WORST
oh I would not be surprised one bit at all if sometime down the road there is a president and an administration worse than Bush's. I figured it would be ages before anybody came close to being as bad as Clinton.Till Bush jr got elected,I considered Clinton tied with Nixon as the worst.Now they're tied for second worst.
I noticed that many of you were critical and hesitant in a nomination of George Washington. It is true that many of his successes were attributed to the works of others, however, this was one of Washington's greatest virtues as a politician: his willingness to delegate. By delegating Hamilton the duty to pen the best resolution to the the fiscal problem of inflation, foreign debt and a fledgling economy was arguably his finest decision because it saved the infant U.S. from dying in the cradle that would result from economic slavery to foreign debtors. In a time when the thirteen states predominantly thought themselves as a conglomeration of countries, Washington was the singular embodiment of American unity and was the only man who could have secured the survival of the nation by his unwillingness to engage in foreign conflict. He allowed the American Republic to mature from a weakened post-war confederation into a powerful unified player upon the world stage.