DN Luke vs DE Sidious, Darth Malak and DN Kyp Durron

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Luke doesnt take this IMHO, its unknown whether Luke would have enough power to take Sidious alone(he had help last time)...adding DN Kyp and Malak would turn the tides I think.

Oh yes, DE Luke took down DE Sidious with an untrained Leia, but a Luke with 40+ more years of training, new force abilities, and an infinite amount of knowledge from Ossus couldn't.. Please..

Technically, it's twenty-ish, but yeah. We've seen vast leaps in power since then.

DN is some thirty years after DE, isn't it? I think by this point Luke would be capable of taking down Sidious. Including Malak and Durron, however, makes things less likely. I say the Skywalker loses this one.

Explain Rex? He has 20-30+ years of training, knowledge, etc.. You've seen what he is capable with the force.. Give him a lightsaber and he'll curbstomp all 3.. There are very few people DN Luke can't take, and Sidious is certainly not on that list.

Originally posted by tdtd
Oh yes, DE Luke took down DE Sidious with an untrained Leia, but a Luke with 40+ more years of training, new force abilities, and an infinite amount of knowledge from Ossus couldn't.. Please..

Apparently you havent read the comics. To defeat Sidious, it required the POTENTIAL of Luke, Leia and Leias unborn son combined. The potential of 3 Skywalkers...do you have any idea how much power this is? Yet Sidious had so fully mastered the dark side, it almost didnt even matter.

I HAVE read the comics, and apparently you don't get it. It took the potential of a somewhat trained, an untrained Leia, and a damn baby, to defeat Sidious. So "3 skywalkers" doesn't mean anything in this. Then he found Ossus. 30 years later Luke was creating force powers and going apeshit with the force, so the two aren't comparable. Sidious isn't in the same league as NJO/DN Luke.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Apparently you havent read the comics. To defeat Sidious, it required the POTENTIAL of Luke, Leia and Leias unborn son combined. The potential of 3 Skywalkers...do you have any idea how much power this is? Yet Sidious had so fully mastered the dark side, it almost didnt even matter.

Did you miss the part when Luke cut off his hand with the spiritual aid of his sister and a fetus?

I did say Luke could take Sidious, didn't I?

Yes, but I'm saying DN Luke tools all 3 competitors.. He'll break a sweat sure, but that's about it.

Originally posted by tdtd
I HAVE read the comics, and apparently you don't get it. It took the potential of a somewhat trained, an untrained Leia, and a damn baby, to defeat Sidious. So "3 skywalkers" doesn't mean anything in this. Then he found Ossus. 30 years later Luke was creating force powers and going apeshit with the force, so the two aren't comparable. Sidious isn't in the same league as NJO/DN Luke.

Do you understand the meaning of the word potential? It was all the power the 3 Skywalkers would ever achieve, and it *still* was just barely enough.

Sidious invented his own powers as well, and he is indeed in the same league as DN Luke.

What powers did Sidious invent? Rediscovered and amplified, perhaps, but he couldn't even control them.

Originally posted by Faunus
What powers did Sidious invent? Rediscovered and amplified, perhaps, but he couldn't even control them.

He invented force storm, and his wormhole technique.

Quantify the potential then GV? What's that, you can't? And Sidious reinvented nothing, as Faunus said, he just rediscovered a power he couldn't control.

Palpatine was controlling his powers fine until that pesky 'entire lightside blocking from the dark' thing.

And why is unborn Anakin's incredible force potential and raw lightside power totally ignored?

Because you kids can't quantify the damn power of a fetus and an untrained Jedi. All of a sudden "Skywalker" means uber leetness? Please...

Leia's power? Compared directly to the Sunrider mother and daughter of old.
And yeah, Skywalker has always meant 'leetness'....once more, actual comic describes Anakin as just what I said

Originally posted by tdtd
Because you kids can't quantify the damn power of a fetus and an untrained Jedi. All of a sudden "Skywalker" means uber leetness? Please...

Lol...

Quantify it? You want me to give the exact mathematical value? 28,200 perhaps?

The potential of any Skywalker is enormous, that should be enough.

Originally posted by tdtd
Quantify the potential then GV? What's that, you can't? And Sidious reinvented nothing, as Faunus said, he just rediscovered a power he couldn't control.

Show one example of anyone else using force storm or wormhole? You cant? Thought so.